"If you use PayPal, as soon as he money is available, move it to your bank acct, then they cant touch it and yuore in the drivers seat. " They still have access to your card and can do stuff to that I'm told, especially if it's a debit card (never use a debit card online!). I still use 'em because I'm guaranteed to get the item or my money back and most guys on here selling and buying expensive optics do it this way. I've spent thousands on here with no real problems to speak of. Most were done via Paypal. I do not, however, do the "friends and family". While I may consider some of you to be friends and family, I don't trust my own friends and family with that much money. Short of Paypal, Postal MO is the only way I'd go. That or cashier's check. Both are good as cash. I must say that all members I've dealt with have come through, only one was slow with some brass but he came through and included a bonus too, extra brass. I bought some good glass on here for killer prices, hell, half my scopes were owned by some of you at one point or another! Buying sight unseen is the biggest problem. But even if a scope comes fucked up, warranty unfucks it a week later like my latest Trijicon deal --$600 on Ebay with ARD and QD mount for a 3x30 5.56 ACOG. Provided they are a high end mfg. The prism or "caret" was all scratched up and damaged when last installed. I got it on day one, sent it back out day two and had a near-new scope by the end of the week.