Va Gun Confiscation Looming!

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I know there are some here that are older than I am, and will remember this............there are also many who are younger, and may have heard about, but not lived thru it. I know it was a different time, but I have seen National Guard troops fire on civilians..........as many of you have.



A lesson in not overplaying ones hand.
 
I have to believe that a recall or impeachment effort would get a good head of steam about now.

And would DOJ actually LET them go forward with this nonsense after seeing the type of turnout the counties have produced in their 2A sanctuary efforts? Quite clearly the people of Virginia are against these shenanigans. And it’s also quite clear that these lunatics intend to attempt to force their will onto the citizens of the state by threatening full scale violence against them. Those politicians gotta go!
 
Wise, Lunenburg, Grayson, Richmond, Brunswick, Lancaster, Northumberland added.

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It's the politicians running our Government that needs fixed. Not yer neighbor.

Yeah....you say that now...but....
"Nation against nation..." Referred to in a well known tome, is actually from the Greek word "ethnos".

There will be two sides. If you don't pick one, a side will be picked for you.
 
Why is the lobby day on the 20th?! It's milk day so nobody is going to be in the public offices that you are lobbying and the media is going to spin that up as an anti-mlk/civil rights rally.

"Thousands of white supremacists rallied today to show their disappointment in civil rights and protest MLK."

It doesn't matter. You will be labeled a racist anyway. If you schedule it for 2/29/20, you'll still be labeled a racist, and someone will point out that leap year is a conspiracy of the white race, to confuse minorities.
 
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Isle of Wight County and Rockingham County have 2Aers rolling deep tonight. Hope they pass it. Dunno if Fauquier County passed (earlier today?) or not, pictures I saw had the place packed, though.

News on Staunton would be great, haven't heard shit yet.

Lynchburg...uh, alluvusudden might not be having a 2A sanctuary public hearing and vote on January 14th. Seems it was voted for when the 2Aers showed up and filled the place, but for some reason it has been flagrantly backwalked. Complex to explain, but video shows clearly:

You got to watch the vice major starting at 17:30. Un-fucking-believable the gall to claim that the anti 2A and anti 1A folks are the oppressed ones.

I would scrap the January demonstration. At best, nobody will care because nobody in government is at work and it's crickets in the media. At worst, Bloomie will bus in some Antifa actors to start shit we then get blamed for; on MLK day of all days.

What VCDL has done so far is way more effective: distributed demonstrations with actual results. (Where some cunt already tries to paint us as violent).
 
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because we have a nation full of foreigners who are now making laws against us, and voting in shitmongers who are just like the totalitarian shitheads in the shitholes they came from.

That combined with feel-good political campaigning/agendas, absolute lack of ability to hold our politicians accountable for corruption or to pass legislation limiting their powers, rosegarden generations raised in rare delicate solitude thinking that 2020 is alluvusudden the year we all finally some-crazy-how reconcile freedom and democracy with expansive and unstoppable government in control, taxing the living fucking shit out of goddamn everything on every level of fucking government whenever a citizen wants to do anything productive, failure to heed our Forefathers and their words behind The Constitution but instead letting bought and paid for representatives influence and set precedent for it's interpretation— the list could go on all fucking night with no shit.
 
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The basic problem here is that the Dems feel their new laws **ARE** constitutional

If those laws could be officially declared UN-constitutional by a high court, then there is no longer any question about enforcement

I know everyone here believes SHALL NOT INFRINGE in literal terms (and I agree), but that statement apparently isn't enough to cover specific magazine limits and other features.

The magazine limits and other features will need to specifically be defined as included in SHALL NOT INFRINGE before the Dems will leave them alone. Right now the Dems are making it a gray area.

No one would have to worry about the NG local police or anything like that if there was a clear ruling...


A CLEAR ruling and a broad ruling is what's needed...One that would declare all these back door gun control laws unconstitutional...I hope the SCOTUS takes this up soon...
 
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A CLEAR ruling and a broad ruling is what's needed...One that would declare all these back door gun control laws unconstitutional...I hope the SCOTUS takes this up soon...
And you think for one second that the Left would just accept this ruling? The lower courts they infiltrated with 'activist' judges have been trampling on Heller and McDonald from the day these ruling were made until now.
 
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I know nothing of war.
Childhood health conditions, relegated me to a life of reading about history and wars. My opinion is pretty much....useless in such matters.
I do possess a brain, with a reasonable modicum of intelligence however. Pretty good at math too.

"Time to buy more ammo!"
Now I'm no logistics officer.....
But how much ammo do you think you will tote "into battle"?
"Well you cache it."
Great.....so it's close to where the battle will be? Yeeeaaahhhh....ok.

I could say a lot, admittedly with no experience, but....
It is perpetually entertaining to me, how folks assume they won't be a zombie. Did you catch that?

If shooting starts, people are gonna die.
"Poor bastard, he had 20,000 rounds cached in 10 places. Caught a bullet in the first 5 minutes of the fight. Damn shame about Danny Roy."

I'm not poopooing folks buying ammo. It is a good investment against inflation.
If you think there is going to be a hot war...chances are, you have enough for the first day at least. If you survive that, make sure you found out where Danny Roy and Jim Bob had their cache hidden. If it's in your fucking garage, it's probably been compromised after day one.
 
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Only it is pretty much the exact same thing. Was the SS recruited from outer space?

No but my Grandfather didn’t know little Fritz and my Dad didn’t know little Pho before they became the SS and the VC. My point was it’s a whole lot different staring down a barrel at a person you know or a possible neighbor. The WWII generation was taught to hate the japs and the krauts as sub human and were conditioned to eradicate them without remorse. Have you been taught that about the kid down the street? It’s not the same thing and if you can’t see that you probably can’t see my point either.
 
For people who are trying to stop gun violence, they sure don’t seem to mind starting a full on civil war. I guess people dying in a civil war they start is okay, but a drug dealer getting shot while robbing a store by a store owner needs to stop.

More than happy to take your guns using their guys with guns.

So, not really against guns, just your guns.
 
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(sigh)
I know nothing of war.
Childhood health conditions, relegated me to a life of reading about history and wars. My opinion is pretty much....useless in such matters.
I do possess a brain, with a reasonable modicum of intelligence however. Pretty good at math too.

"Time to buy more ammo!"
Now I'm no logistics officer.....
But how much ammo do you think you will tote "into battle"?
"Well you cache it."
Great.....so it's close to where the battle will be? Yeeeaaahhhh....ok.

I could say a lot, admittedly with no experience, but....
It is perpetually entertaining to me, how folks assume they won't be a zombie. Did you catch that?

If shooting starts, people are gonna die.
"Poor bastard, he had 20,000 rounds cached in 10 places. Caught a bullet in the first 5 minutes of the fight. Damn shame about Danny Roy."

I'm not poopooing folks buying ammo. It is a good investment against inflation.
If you think there is going to be a hot war...chances are, you have enough for the first day at least. If you survive that, make sure you found out where Danny Roy and Jim Bob had their cache hidden. If it's in your fucking garage, it's probably been compromised after day one.
Ammo is currency. Ammo is the opportunity to resupply those whom are fighting by your side. Ammo is the ability to stock burried caches, drops, and safehouses with provisions for those on the move. Because once a nonlinear shooting war starts, the ability to purchase more ammo with ease, relative anonymity and affordability is over.

Nobody plans to carry 1000's of rounds on their person which is why the ability to get more from what one has available is crucial. I would hate to spoil your "entertainment" but those whom would prefer to not become a "zombie" when the music stops have been actively preparing to survive such a time.

Many people will die if war starts, and a bullet doesn't care how prepared you are, it either connects or it doesn't, but preparedness and mindset will help you survive all the other horrors of war until the moment the reaper catches up.

The statement "Buy more ammo" comes with the unspoken mandate of applying common sense and buying spare parts, food, med supplies, training regularly, developing a close group of ready and capable individuals and praying that those dark days can be held at bay, etc. But that takes a lot of time and effort to type so...

Buy more ammo.
 
(sigh)
I know nothing of war.
Childhood health conditions, relegated me to a life of reading about history and wars. My opinion is pretty much....useless in such matters.
I do possess a brain, with a reasonable modicum of intelligence however. Pretty good at math too.

"Time to buy more ammo!"
Now I'm no logistics officer.....
But how much ammo do you think you will tote "into battle"?
"Well you cache it."
Great.....so it's close to where the battle will be? Yeeeaaahhhh....ok.

I could say a lot, admittedly with no experience, but....
It is perpetually entertaining to me, how folks assume they won't be a zombie. Did you catch that?

If shooting starts, people are gonna die.
"Poor bastard, he had 20,000 rounds cached in 10 places. Caught a bullet in the first 5 minutes of the fight. Damn shame about Danny Roy."

I'm not poopooing folks buying ammo. It is a good investment against inflation.
If you think there is going to be a hot war...chances are, you have enough for the first day at least. If you survive that, make sure you found out where Danny Roy and Jim Bob had their cache hidden. If it's in your fucking garage, it's probably been compromised after day one.
You store ammunition in magazines, magazines are stored in a multitude of devices like boxes or bags, those can be stored in your car, truck or home, friends/family’s homes or even your work/office. 20k rounds is heavy, even .22, but having some LOADED in mags, ready to rock is the only way to go. That much ammo may seem like a crazy amount to some and chump numbers to others, but if fighting of any type happens or shtf scenarios go down, even if you cannot fight, you can always use it as currency.
Stack it deep, stack it wide and stack it tall. You can always just have fun shooting it at the range with your friends if everything goes well.
 
"Time to buy more ammo!"
Now I'm no logistics officer.....
But how much ammo do you think you will tote "into battle"?
"Well you cache it."
Great.....so it's close to where the battle will be? Yeeeaaahhhh....ok.


We ain't going to Bastogne or anything. There is ammo, there is food, there is support, we are home.
 
Ammo is currency. Ammo is the opportunity to resupply those whom are fighting by your side. Ammo is the ability to stock burried caches, drops, and safehouses with provisions for those on the move. Because once a nonlinear shooting war starts, the ability to purchase more ammo with ease, relative anonymity and affordability is over.

Nobody plans to carry 1000's of rounds on their person which is why the ability to get more from what one has available is crucial. I would hate to spoil your "entertainment" but those whom would prefer to not become a "zombie" when the music stops have been actively preparing to survive such a time.

Many people will die if war starts, and a bullet doesn't care how prepared you are, it either connects or it doesn't, but preparedness and mindset will help you survive all the other horrors of war until the moment the reaper catches up.

The statement "Buy more ammo" comes with the unspoken mandate of applying common sense and buying spare parts, food, med supplies, training regularly, developing a close group of ready and capable individuals and praying that those dark days can be held at bay, etc. But that takes a lot of time and effort to type so...

Buy more ammo.
You store ammunition in magazines, magazines are stored in a multitude of devices like boxes or bags, those can be stored in your car, truck or home, friends/family’s homes or even your work/office. 20k rounds is heavy, even .22, but having some LOADED in mags, ready to rock is the only way to go. That much ammo may seem like a crazy amount to some and chump numbers to others, but if fighting of any type happens or shtf scenarios go down, even if you cannot fight, you can always use it as currency.
Stack it deep, stack it wide and stack it tall. You can always just have fun shooting it at the range with your friends if everything goes well.

Appreciate your replys.

Don't disagree with any particular point, and I should hope you know where I'm coming from.

I'm not planning to die, I'm all about planning to live.

Knowledge, is often overlooked as something to be stockpiled.
 
No but my Grandfather didn’t know little Fritz and my Dad didn’t know little Pho before they became the SS and the VC. My point was it’s a whole lot different staring down a barrel at a person you know or a possible neighbor. The WWII generation was taught to hate the japs and the krauts as sub human and were conditioned to eradicate them without remorse. Have you been taught that about the kid down the street? It’s not the same thing and if you can’t see that you probably can’t see my point either.
The left has been actively training youth for decades to despise, hate and fear conservatives/Christians/patriots/the Constitution/anyone who doesn't believe in their utopian BS. Pulling the trigger is not the difficult part, living with the shadows of the dead is the hard part.

Make no mistake, they would put you in a camp just for having backward beliefs without blinking an eye. Never underestimate the evil that can be accomplished through hive-mind mentality.

I agree that fighting our own will be different and I hope it never happens here but it happens all over the world with more regularity than international shooting wars. Depending on context it is called many things Democide/ethnic cleansing/civil war/gang violence, etc.

Remember, those in power don't care about your life or the lives of their constituents, they are globalists and only believe in the supremecy of their ideology and their presumed right to rule. A civil war in the states plays into their hands, twns of thousands dead and bring in foreign troops to do the dirty work, scrap the Constitution and usher in their brave, new, one world govt.

Fight from the ballot box for as long as possible, for once we must move
Past it everyone loses.

"I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones."
Albert Einstein
 
Appreciate your replys.

Don't disagree with any particular point, and I should hope you know where I'm coming from.

I'm not planning to die, I'm all about planning to live.

Knowledge, is often overlooked as something to be stockpiled.
Knowledge is the first thing to be stockpiled, it cannot be taken away, but it may corrode feom lack of maintenance.
 
Appreciate your replys.

Don't disagree with any particular point, and I should hope you know where I'm coming from.

I'm not planning to die, I'm all about planning to live.

Knowledge, is often overlooked as something to be stockpiled.

same here. Not to mention(as previously mentioned) food. Freeze dried isnt ribeye steaks and asparagus with a hollandaise sauce, but better than mre’s. With sales on, economy is good, its pretty cheap. 80-100 bucks for a month of food for 1 person or 2 small children. Its not everything you need, But its better than starving.
Water is cheap, containers can be expensive, but a gallon per person a day is a decent number.

the first thing i would think the government would do is shut off the lights. Its slows communication, demoralizes, makes life in general very difficult.
Then knock out cell and landlines. Maybe same time as power. setup blockades keeping everyone in their place.

This is all before shooting, unless fired upon.
 
Water is cheap, containers can be expensive, but a gallon per person a day is a decent number

If it's a grid down situation, it's a horrible number. Water is not a luxury, it is a necessity, and that includes minimal hygiene concerns.
This IS my wheelhouse.
Just for drinking, a gallon a day is a good number.

You go 3 days without washing your hands, and a paper cut becomes possible life threatening.

Every man worth his salt should know basic water treatment principles, and I'm not talking about just bleaching a canteen.

Own the knowledge.
 
You would need:
Ammo
Mags
Batteries
Spare parts
NV is really nice
Food
Clothing
Socks
Comms
Transportation
Armorer services
Sleeping gear, esp in winter
Friends
Multiple resupply points
Places to hide all this when not using
Water
Good boots
Plates
Kit
Ruck
Civ kit for low pro ops

sutures
Scalpels
Forceps
lidocaine
Antiseptic
Bandages
Chest seals
Tourniquets
Decompression needles
Trauma shears
Litters
Gloves

I know very few folks who have much of any of this stuff and most don’t have it stocked deep.
 
No but my Grandfather didn’t know little Fritz and my Dad didn’t know little Pho before they became the SS and the VC. My point was it’s a whole lot different staring down a barrel at a person you know or a possible neighbor. The WWII generation was taught to hate the japs and the krauts as sub human and were conditioned to eradicate them without remorse. Have you been taught that about the kid down the street? It’s not the same thing and if you can’t see that you probably can’t see my point either.

I grew up in a tough neighborhood. I found out how to take care of bullies.

So, when the shooting starts, I know how to take care of other bullies who think they are tough guys and want my guns.

I have no problem eradicating them without remorse if I have to. The only difference between now and the days of my youth is that i don't have to rely on my fists, clubs or knives anymore.

The only thing that would bother me about a civil war is the stench left over from their rotting bodies and that there may not be enough buzzards to take care of all of them.
 
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I reiterate:

Virginia isn’t going to be Afghanistan. Harris Teeter will still be open and you’ll waltz in for groceries and bottled water. There won’t be need to cut power and cease basic services in all-out open warfare to “win” - hell, you’ve already got those folks nervous and they aren’t in power yet.

Gray men, working in silent concert with those unafraid of being the voice of the opposition, would be a lot more effective IMO than roving militias.

Democrats talked about seizing guns and that led to the Sanctuary movement, which led to the public walking back of confiscation. They KNOW they overreached and are just realizing the depth of resolve against them and understanding the voice of a peaceful but armed populace. Don’t stop pressing politically, but we’re nowhere close to WOLVERINES! yet...
 
If it's a grid down situation, it's a horrible number. Water is not a luxury, it is a necessity, and that includes minimal hygiene concerns.
This IS my wheelhouse.
Just for drinking, a gallon a day is a good number.

You go 3 days without washing your hands, and a paper cut becomes possible life threatening.

Every man worth his salt should know basic water treatment principles, and I'm not talking about just bleaching a canteen.

Own the knowledge.

And treating is way better than trying to figure out how you are going to horde one gallon a day x 5 if you got a family of 5 or more. You’d quickly run out of room in your house to store it, even if you do get enough containers. That’s 735 gallons for 3 months supply and almost 7500 pounds of weight and I wouldn’t be storing that in my attic lol. I’m not even sure what size room you’d need to store 735 gallons of water. Have to get the dimensions of a jug lol. There are other ways of storing but you get my point. It’s a lot more feasible to figure out how to treat it. Lucky for me, I have lots of pools nearby.
 
If it's a grid down situation, it's a horrible number. Water is not a luxury, it is a necessity, and that includes minimal hygiene concerns.
This IS my wheelhouse.
Just for drinking, a gallon a day is a good number.

You go 3 days without washing your hands, and a paper cut becomes possible life threatening.

Every man worth his salt should know basic water treatment principles, and I'm not talking about just bleaching a canteen.

Own the knowledge.
Yes, and i cut myself a lot!!!! I hsve a healthy stock of hydrogen peroxide everywhere i can. 6 big bottles in every place i crash. One in all my vehicles, bandages and first aide to go with it all. Damn stuff never goes bad, i use up old stock and replace with new.
 
I reiterate:
Virginia isn’t going to be Afghanistan. Harris Teeter will still be open and you’ll waltz in for groceries and bottled water. There won’t be need to cut power and cease basic services in all-out open warfare to “win” - hell, you’ve already got those folks nervous and they aren’t in power yet.
Gray men, working in silent concert with those unafraid of being the voice of the opposition, would be a lot more effective IMO than roving militias.

A small group of Grey men is all that is needed to bring pretty much everything that people in urban / suburban areas depend on for their civilized lifestyle to a complete standstill. If they are extra smart, they could do it with no need for weapons either.
 
Yes, and i cut myself a lot!!!! I hsve a healthy stock of hydrogen peroxide everywhere i can. 6 big bottles in every place i crash. One in all my vehicles, bandages and first aide to go with it all. Damn stuff never goes bad, i use up old stock and replace with new.


H2O2 decomposes into plain water pretty quickly. If you're looking to store it keep it sealed and get the highest concentration you can find, then dilute it if necessary in the future as batches.
 
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