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Va Gun Confiscation Looming!
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What they're doing is already illegal.
It's called Incitement to Riot.
Greg
It's called Incitement to Riot.
Greg
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Court injunctions happen rather quickly.
As for making it to scotus
it could be quickly or a year( just throwing year in there as a place holder for a long time). I would be surprised if injunctions didn’t stay in place until they did a ruling.
This is a rather black and white topic when it comes to the 2A.
If by chance you have some retard of an enforcer that tries to take a gun from a red neck if there is no injunction, well we all know the outcome of that.
If scouts fails us and they try gun confiscation then I am all for burning by it down.
Until then I will work within the constitution the best I can.
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Court injunctions happen rather quickly.
As for making it to scotus
it could be quickly or a year( just throwing year in there as a place holder for a long time). I would be surprised if injunctions didn’t stay in place until they did a ruling.
This is a rather black and white topic when it comes to the 2A.
If by chance you have some retard of an enforcer that tries to take a gun from a red neck if there is no injunction, well we all know the outcome of that.
If scouts fails us and they try gun confiscation then I am all for burning by it down.
Until then I will work within the constitution the best I can.
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Massachusetts currently has an MSR ban coming up in the Supreme Court this season.
You may need to pay attention to this case as it will likely affirm or rescind whatever VA intends to do.....
thefederalist.com
Might be a good idea if MA GOAL and the VA gun rights orgs spoke to each other.
You may need to pay attention to this case as it will likely affirm or rescind whatever VA intends to do.....
Is Kavanaugh, SCOTUS, Or First Circuit Right About 2nd Amendment?
Heller rejected the First Circuit’s notion that the right to bear arms should be balanced against government’s claimed interest in banning guns.
thefederalist.com
Might be a good idea if MA GOAL and the VA gun rights orgs spoke to each other.
While I also hope to preserve, uphold and go by our constitution it will be hard while fighting an enemy that will not and has contempt for it.
As someone who's been to see the Elephant; If someone is threatening you with force, THEY ARE THE ENEMY.
If someone puts your life in jeopardy, you are justified in shooting in self defense.
Greg
If someone puts your life in jeopardy, you are justified in shooting in self defense.
Greg
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Virginians,
The eyes of the world are upon you. The hopes and prayers of liberty loving people everywhere march with you. Both free men and tyrants are watching your actions with bated breath, and you may well set the course for good or evil in our whole country.
Our brethren are already in the field, why stand you here idle? Our fellow liberty lovers in Hong Kong are being shot down by the police of a socialist state because they are standing determinedly for freedom, and they don’t even have arms. They are begging for them.
If these tyrants come for you, remember, on that day we will all be Virginians. But we cannot do anything to help you if you in the state do not stand fast no matter the consequences.
Work, advocate, call and plead with your reps. Hope for the best and work the system so that you can enjoy freedom in peace, but if the worst happens, stand at all costs and know that we will be coming to stand with you.
NEVER LET THEM TAKE YOUR FREEDOM.
Too many of our friends paid a high price for you to give it up.
The eyes of the world are upon you. The hopes and prayers of liberty loving people everywhere march with you. Both free men and tyrants are watching your actions with bated breath, and you may well set the course for good or evil in our whole country.
Our brethren are already in the field, why stand you here idle? Our fellow liberty lovers in Hong Kong are being shot down by the police of a socialist state because they are standing determinedly for freedom, and they don’t even have arms. They are begging for them.
If these tyrants come for you, remember, on that day we will all be Virginians. But we cannot do anything to help you if you in the state do not stand fast no matter the consequences.
Work, advocate, call and plead with your reps. Hope for the best and work the system so that you can enjoy freedom in peace, but if the worst happens, stand at all costs and know that we will be coming to stand with you.
NEVER LET THEM TAKE YOUR FREEDOM.
Too many of our friends paid a high price for you to give it up.
Could someone offer me a link or an explanation on the concept of 2A Sanctuary Counties? I own property in 3 VA counties, Arlington (not a Sanctuary and never will be for 2A), and Rappahannock and Culpeper (both pending Sanctuary).
I still don't believe this law is even close to constitutional under Heller. I would love to hear the VA Congressional lawyer's spin on how this is constitutional.
thanks
I still don't believe this law is even close to constitutional under Heller. I would love to hear the VA Congressional lawyer's spin on how this is constitutional.
thanks
This map shows Stafford County as having a pending hearing or discussion of the issue, however I cannot find anything on Al Gore's Fabulous Internet about it, and the VCDL's list of counties doesn't show Stafford as one of the counties where it is up for discussion. Does anyone here know definitively if Stafford is considering this or not?
Doesn't matter to them. This is the problem with those sitting on their couches. They think it won't pass because it's unconstitutional. All that means is it WILL pass and then spend the next 10 years going through courts, all while we can't buy anything because it's all "illegal".
Best way to stop this is to make sure it never passes in the first place.
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According to posts on the VCDL page, it has been added to the agenda for the BOS meeting on 12/17. However, I have not personally corresponded with anyone affiliated with the Stafford county BOS for corroboration.
I see on the county website for the BOS they have a meeting scheduled: December 17, 2019 Public Safety Committee - 12/17/2019 12:00 PM. There's no agenda listed for it yet, and the site says an agenda will be posted online the Friday before the meeting. 6 out of the 7 Supervisors are Republicans, but that doesn't necessarily mean anything. We'll see if they're sympathetic to our cause.
UPDATE, with pics of some of the firratms they plan to Ban.
www.nraila.org
NRA-ILA | Bloomberg Bought Virginia Legislators Introduce Confiscatory Gun Ban
Michael Bloomberg’s bought and paid for Virginia legislators have wasted no time introducing legislation that would make the Old Dominion’s gun laws worse than those of the billionaire’s home state of New York.
www.nraila.org
Henrico County was listed as having a board meeting tonight (Nov 26), which it is, but it's not on the lastest list of action items from the VACDL. Previous emails said it wasn't on the agenda but they'd hear comments about it.
If you are in or near Henrico, the meeting is at 7:00 tonight at the complex on Parham Road.
If you are in or near Henrico, the meeting is at 7:00 tonight at the complex on Parham Road.
If you have a Facebook account you can go to the VCDL page to see pics of turnout at some of these county meetings. Up to 15 2A sanctuaries now. I don't think VA is going to go quietly.
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I also have to wonder if maybe just maybe folks will wake up and see just how much money in politics is a problem. That pompous midget bloomburg is going to attempt to purchase a Dem majority like he did in Virginia. I have to think with warren and sanders talking about it folks will at least think about it.....
OK, so I found out 2A sanctuary county " is any locality that says it will not enforce any unconstitutional (federal or state) gun laws! Many sheriffs are going to take the County's lead on this and county police could be told not to enforce such laws either. (Law enforcement officers do not have to, and shouldn't, enforce any unconstitutional laws.) " (from the VCDL website.
This is great and all, but it will not be taken lightly by Richmond. They control the purse strings, so once they start cutting funding to these counties, we will see how durable this defense is.
I'm interested in being involved and would like to attend the county board meetings in Rappahannock and Culpeper as I'm a land owner in both... is there a source that you guys have on scheduled county meetings????
This is great and all, but it will not be taken lightly by Richmond. They control the purse strings, so once they start cutting funding to these counties, we will see how durable this defense is.
I'm interested in being involved and would like to attend the county board meetings in Rappahannock and Culpeper as I'm a land owner in both... is there a source that you guys have on scheduled county meetings????
Yes, that is the point of a 2A Sanctuary. Let's see if the counties are willing to carry the fight. I'd love to see Richmond have to face lawsuits from every county for cutting funding based on unconstitutional laws. I know most counties don't have deep pockets, but let's see if at least some of them will put their money where their mouth is.
2A sanctuary counties are a good 1st step, but trust me much more work has to be done.
We have to spread the word about just how bad this legislation is for rifle, shotgun and pistol owners.
We have to rally, really rally when it is time.
A lot of people/gun owners are ignorant when it comes to potential bad legislation for gun rights.
Mass mailing of boxes of dog shit to the state capital
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Agreed, 2A is part of the fight. Education and activism are just as important. If every county on that map becomes 2A, and 5,000 people show up 1/20/20, that is a message that can't be ignored.
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Sanctuary anything is an awful idea and just gives a false sense of security. If people want to break gun laws its easy enough without pretending anyone has your back. Because the truth is that if the state police want to confiscate some guns they aren't going to be stopped at the local level. People should go protest instead of setting up pretend safe spots. Most of you are awful lazy and fat and don't want to do it in the cold when you should be on the state house lawn turning it into a turd field. Everyday all day long until no one wants to see your faces anymore watching them.
So, you don't think that having the County Attorneys and Prosecutor and the Sheriff sign an agreement that says they will not prosecute or serve warrants nor investigate any 2A infringement laws is useless? It's the best I can do in my State....protesting will last until I lose my job and my house and my healthcare insurance and we go hungry and you know what?
My fucking politicians don't give a rats ass what I think. If I wanna stand outside at -30F and protest they'll laugh their nuts off. These assholes want US disarmed and protesting just amuses them just like Ever Trumpers laugh at Liberal Tears. The dick heads enacting/writing/passing these laws are above the law because they have more money and power than we do. They don't fucking care if we protest...they just lob tear gas.
VooDoo
2A sanctuary counties work to an extent.
Generally if a county doesn't enforce the law I suppose the judge would dismiss all charges that the state police have against you in theory.
If the counties truly won't enforce unconstitutional laws that is a beautiful thing.
Still, the fight is just now starting.
Generally if a county doesn't enforce the law I suppose the judge would dismiss all charges that the state police have against you in theory.
If the counties truly won't enforce unconstitutional laws that is a beautiful thing.
Still, the fight is just now starting.
I am sure you have some time off on the weekend or you can take some time off even if 5,000-10,000 people showed up every weekend it would sent a much bigger message then having someone sign some paper work. No they wont like it at all Richmond doesn't have that much space they wont like the parking lot being blocked while they have to walk to work being insulted the whole way.
The local level isn't going to stop the state police and they don't have to keep you in that county if they arrest you. You really think they wont have a change of venue?
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I have spent my weekends and time getting my county to declare itself a 2A Sanctuary County. Best I can do. Ya'll will have to stand outside and whine on yer own. Call me when you start building scaffolds and I'll be right there...
VooDoo
At a high level, Three things have to happen to put this whole fucking disarmament shit show to rest once and for all:
1) RGB (and all her clones, body doubles and cyborg-robot look alike) must die and a Patriot Pro-2A justice appointed and confirmed
2) SCOUTS takes a 2A case where the question before the court is something like “Are the AR15 and other semi auto rifles “common use arms” and protected under the 2A (Heller may already have set the precedent for this)
3) SCOTUS rules that they are protected and cannot be banned or restricted (mag capacity, etc) in any way.
Otherwise the shit box treasonous marxists will continue their attempts at disarmament.
1) RGB (and all her clones, body doubles and cyborg-robot look alike) must die and a Patriot Pro-2A justice appointed and confirmed
2) SCOUTS takes a 2A case where the question before the court is something like “Are the AR15 and other semi auto rifles “common use arms” and protected under the 2A (Heller may already have set the precedent for this)
3) SCOTUS rules that they are protected and cannot be banned or restricted (mag capacity, etc) in any way.
Otherwise the shit box treasonous marxists will continue their attempts at disarmament.
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I am sure you will all be rebelling when you can't even protest ,because its pointless and cold out.
Every revolution starts with a protest, and if you can't manage that you will never have any momentum support or understanding for anything else.
Every revolution starts with a protest, and if you can't manage that you will never have any momentum support or understanding for anything else.I am sure you will all be rebelling when you can't even protest ,because its pointless and cold out.
I tend to put things off unless I absolutely have to do them...Unfortunately this has often led to sleepless nights before tests or when papers were due as well as work projects later on..I still did well on those tests and got decent to good grades on the papers. Point is that I didn’t start feeling a sense of urgency until the night or two before given I was still able to achieve desired results by waiting until then to take action.
I think the same thing may be happening to us as community. We still think there is time and if we act when the time comes, we will achieve desired results.
The concern with applying the above approach in this case is that
1) Time flies
2) The enemy never sleeps
We all need to continue to do as much as we are able to do individually and collectively (look for different, more effective and efficient ways to influence the outcome) in the political sphere while, IN PARALLEL, begin planning for eventuality. So I won’t be buying knee pads as a part of my prep.
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I think we will see numbers in Va exceeding anything corrupt politicians are used to.
Furthermore, 2A sanctuary counties are definitely worth fighting for despite what some defeatist may like you to believe.
They have proven that they can and do work. Most local/county LE officers don't take too kindly to outside agencies coming in running things.
That is how wars get started.
Furthermore, 2A sanctuary counties are definitely worth fighting for despite what some defeatist may like you to believe.
They have proven that they can and do work. Most local/county LE officers don't take too kindly to outside agencies coming in running things.
That is how wars get started.
Don't get me wrong I don't think sanctuary counties are a bad thing, but they aren't going to do much in the long run. The best outcome that anyone should expect with them is that they will give some Fudds some breathing space and enough time to die with their collection while contently worrying about confiscation. Basically just a shitty version of a grandfather clause. The real problem with them is they take away some of the momentum and impetus to do anything else.
Y'all just holler when yer sick and tired of living under lawfare, legalese, and every other bullshit excuse not to enforce and/or usurp the laws of the land.
#arresteverydangoneofthem
#arresteverydangoneofthem
sanctuary counties are another tool in the toolbox, one I’d rather have than not.
The issue with Democrats is that many of them are criminals or insane.
They are childish and deranged.
They would crash the economy or start a war to get their way or get even.
They ignore history and logic.
They cannot be treated as reasonable actors.
They are childish and deranged.
They would crash the economy or start a war to get their way or get even.
They ignore history and logic.
They cannot be treated as reasonable actors.
Henrico County says they aren't getting involved.
I'm a bit lost on what to do. Every email I send and every phone call I make doesn't get answered. I suppose I'll show up next but given they won't call me back and they won't answer my emails, I don't get a warm fuzzy feeling they'll welcome me in person much different.
I'm a bit lost on what to do. Every email I send and every phone call I make doesn't get answered. I suppose I'll show up next but given they won't call me back and they won't answer my emails, I don't get a warm fuzzy feeling they'll welcome me in person much different.
You most likely wont see much traction in the cites and suburbs of said cites.
That not to say give up, just reality on the ground.
I guess being polite isn't always the best way. They will hear us whether they want to or not.
Join VCDL, they are a standup group. They will put you to work if you're willing or just simply keep you informed for the sake of politely asking for donations. They actually have their shit together, and that's why I joined.
Agreed, VCDL is working as hard as we are if not harder to protect our Va gun rights.
The more we learn, share and unite, the safer our rights become.
Was in a gun shop this afternoon. While in there, I heard a voice I recognized and realized it was a local gunsmith. The picture painted was not pretty. The gun shop owner said if it passes, they close the doors. The gunsmith wasn’t optimistic about his future. They said people still come in every day and say they haven’t heard about any of it or that it’ll never pass.
No one in the room felt that a happy ending was in the plans.
They did agree blood will be shed if it passes.
No one in the room felt that a happy ending was in the plans.
They did agree blood will be shed if it passes.
That's the Biggest issue people are ignorant and don't even realize how this will affect them or future generations.
It is our responsibility to educate the public and show the public servants that we hold the real power, not them!
This just in... not sure if already in this thread but VA legislators are pushing further into treasonous ground. Now planning to ban all paramilitary activity.
If this doesn't wake people up on their intent, then I don't know what will.
This is tyrannical government run wild.
This is them trying to intimidate us into submission.
They might as well burn our US constitution!
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