VALDADA G2 Recon NEW VADADA CONTENT

Not really IMO, it was the same then, a mental midget playing "I know you are but what am I." Thinking he is making cohernt points. What can you do, stupids gonna stupid.
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"stupids gonna stupid" ?
Wow I don't even know what to say about that.
As far as Frank goes or anyone else for that matter I'm absolutely not afraid to have an intelligent discussion with them as long as he sticks to the subject and brings something to the table besides he said she said stuff .
Now I did say at the beginning of this thread that I actually talked to Val on the phone. And I did say that he seemed like a nice guy and was concerned about me getting the correct scope for what I was trying to accomplish. But that's all I ever said about Val. Everything else I said was about the scope I was interested in. Just read back on this post and you will find not many people actually answered any questions all they did was misdirect. There wasn't many valid counter arguments in this entire thread. In fact there was a couple of jackalopes on here trying to Pawn off a review on a completely different scope. This thread was never about a guy's character it was about an optic and that's all. You guys have a unnatural dislike for the guy that makes them. I personally don't really care who makes them. I don't care about the warranty they have. I don't care about the customer service. Because I never plan on buying one. I'm just saying the scope that I tried out performed exactly as it should have that's all.
Now if I was purchasing this scope I would care about all those things and they would be valid arguments against buying this optic.
Ok it's time for you guys chime in with informed and intelligent comments like "you'd like that girth," "Val boy," or the ever-popular "go suck Val's dick". So bring it on I don't care I'm on duty this weekend and all I have is time.
 
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"stupids gonna stupid" ?
Wow I don't even know what to say about that.
As far as Frank goes or anyone else for that matter I'm absolutely not afraid to have an intelligent discussion with them as long as he sticks to the subject and brings something to the table besides he said she said stuff .
Now I did say at the beginning of this thread that I actually talked to Val on the phone. And I did say that he seemed like a nice guy and was concerned about me getting the correct scope for what I was trying to accomplish. But that's all I ever said about Val. Everything else I said was about the scope I was interested in. Just read back on this post and you will find not many people actually answered any questions all they did was misdirect. There wasn't many valid counter arguments in this entire thread. In fact there was a couple of jackalopes on here trying to Pawn off a review on a completely different scope. This thread was never about a guy's character it was about an optic and that's all. You guys have a unnatural dislike for the guy that makes them. I personally don't really care who makes them. I don't care about the warranty they have. I don't care about the customer service. Because I never plan on buying one. I'm just saying the scope that I tried out performed exactly as it should have that's all.
Now if I was purchasing this scope I would care about all those things and they would be valid arguments against buying this optic.
Ok it's time for you guys chime in with informed and intelligent comments like "you'd like that girth," "Val boy," or the ever-popular "go suck Val's dick". So bring it on I don't care I'm on duty this weekend and all I have is time.
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594 posts on a complete waste of Time thread ? And, it started with you essentially wanting opinions on, or wanting to buy a scope ?

This is still going ? Have you made a decision ? Almost 600 posts and you’ve degenerated to the point where all you are doing is insulting people ? 600 posts ? What the hell is wrong with you ? Seriously.
 
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594 posts on a complete waste of Time thread ? And, it started with you essentially wanting opinions on, or wanting to buy a scope ?

This is still going ? Have you made a decision ? Almost 600 posts and you’ve degenerated to the point where all you are doing is insulting people ? 600 posts ? What the hell is wrong with you ? Seriously.
You actually counted how many post there were? Do you know how that sounds? Have you examined any of the post? How many of the gentleman on this post started a conversation by calling me names?
So again I'm going to ask one question it's a simple one.
What was your personal experience with a G2?
 
You actually counted how many post there were? Do you know how that sounds? Have you examined any of the post? How many of the gentleman on this post started a conversation by calling me names?
So again I'm going to ask one question it's a simple one.
What was your personal experience with a G2?
First of all, you are so obstinate that you completey miss the point. Again.

As far as post count ? Jeesus, look in the upper right hand corner of each post. Hint; It's a running tally. Duh..... And, as far as "how it sounds" ? It sounds like I can read. Again, Duh.

OK, as far as the scope. I have never owned one, never touched one and never will. It's kind of like looking at product reviews on Amazon. If there are a high percentage of bad reviews, I don't buy the product. You don't seem to be able to grasp that concept, when the vast majority of the buying public does. Another hint; In that case, it's not their problem, it's yours.

I'll say it again. After approximately 600 posts on this winner of a thread, you still don't get it. The scope is a piece of shit and there's a long history of customers not being taken care of/getting screwed. If you were reading reviews of a product on Amazon and the majority of them were bad, would you still buy the product ? Particularly if there were other options that were better reviewed ?

Your stupidity continues to run un-abated. I'm shocked you're still around and this thread hasn't been nuked.

edit; For your benefit, this is post 599. You can also find that gem of information in the upper right hand corner of this post. FFS.

duoble edit; post count has changed, due to Mods nuking prior posts.
 
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thank you for pointing out the post count. I do deserve a bit of shit for my lack of situational awareness.
As far as your answer to the question I gave you that was kind of cop out.
You're right if I was looking for something on Amazon and there were a bunch of bad reviews written by people that actually had the product I would be weary. But in the same tone if there was a bunch of reviews on a product written by people that didn't even see the product I don't think I could take those too seriously. Could you?
 
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"stupids gonna stupid" ?
Wow I don't even know what to say about that.
As far as Frank goes or anyone else for that matter I'm absolutely not afraid to have an intelligent discussion with them as long as he sticks to the subject and brings something to the table besides he said she said stuff .
Now I did say at the beginning of this thread that I actually talked to Val on the phone. And I did say that he seemed like a nice guy and was concerned about me getting the correct scope for what I was trying to accomplish. But that's all I ever said about Val. Everything else I said was about the scope I was interested in. Just read back on this post and you will find not many people actually answered any questions all they did was misdirect. There wasn't many valid counter arguments in this entire thread. In fact there was a couple of jackalopes on here trying to Pawn off a review on a completely different scope. This thread was never about a guy's character it was about an optic and that's all. You guys have a unnatural dislike for the guy that makes them. I personally don't really care who makes them. I don't care about the warranty they have. I don't care about the customer service. Because I never plan on buying one. I'm just saying the scope that I tried out performed exactly as it should have that's all.
Now if I was purchasing this scope I would care about all those things and they would be valid arguments against buying this optic.
Ok it's time for you guys chime in with informed and intelligent comments like "you'd like that girth," "Val boy," or the ever-popular "go suck Val's dick". So bring it on I don't care I'm on duty this weekend and all I have is time.

Actually your questions have been answered MANY, MANY times. Here, let me summarize for you:

-IOR has good glass
-IOR has a known track record of tracking issues
-The Gen2 is actually made in Japan
-The Gen2 might be a decent scope after years of documented successful use
-Nobody here is gonna waste their hard earned money on a turd like this... WHY? For all the reasons you refuse to consider. Even though it’s more information than you asked for, the good members here are trying to have your best interest in mind.
-We are all bored and tired of this election shit so this thread is getting WAY more attention than it deserves.
-AND FINALLY, as I stated earlier...nobody gives a fuck about Valbabla or their fanboys
-Insert homosexual innuendo here
-ZFG
 
But in the same tone if there was a bunch of reviews on a product written by people that didn't even see the product I don't think I could take those too seriously. Could you?
Yes, in that context, I agree with you.

But.....I think you should take it at face value that many of the responders to your original question either had direct personal (bad) experience, or that they knew people that did. Bad reputations do not generally materialize out of thin air. They usually are a result of just what you had been told by many people. Poor design, materials, construction, warranty and customer service are what kills a product, sometimes only one of those factors delivers the Coup de grâce.

Another observation; Sometimes I'm a little embarrassed when someone posts, asking a legitimate question and gets pigpiled. However, my sympathy begins to quickly wane when the OP refuses to listen and continues to fight. Particularly when the overwhelming majority of respondants have nothing good to say about the product. Sometimes, Hide Members get zero style points for their Counsel, but I have never, ever seen an instance where any member ever intentionally tried to steer anyone wrong. For every post slamming you, there was an underlying message, trying to help you, trying to wave you off making a bad purchase. In those cases, like I said, zero style points awarded. That doesn't mean the message was wrong though.
 
Hard to believe this shit storm of a thread is still going on.

Someone above alluded to being bored as the reason this is continuing. My thought is get a hobby, maybe? (joking haha)



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This thread had so much misinformation I felt I should join and straiten a few things out. I would like to be up front here and say I have no affiliation with any of the companies. I have however used and owned IOR scopes and whilst I do not own a Valdada G2 I have looked through them and had a quick play with them.

Probably the best place to start is with IOR. There appears to be some confusion as to who they are. IOR is a very well established Romanian optics manufacturer. They make everything from microscopes to industrial optic systems. One of the biggest confusion is the relationship between IOR and Valdada, so lets set this strait. Valdada is a completely separate company run by completely different people. Valdada just happen to import products made buy IOR to the US.

The Valdada G2 Recon has absolutely no connection with IOR or the similarly named Recon and Recon Mk2 aka Gen 2 scopes from IOR. The Valdada G2 Recon is actually made by Light Optics Works in Japan. They are a OEM manufacturers that makes most of the high end Japanese made scopes.
 
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This thread had so much misinformation I felt I should join and straiten a few things out. I would like to be up front here and say I have no affiliation with any of the companies. I have however for used IOR scopes over the years and whilst I do not own a Valdada G2 I have looked through them and had a quick play with them.

Probably the best place to start is with IOR. There appears to be some confusion as to who they are. IOR is a very well established Romanian optics manufacturer. They make everything from microscopes to industrial optic systems. One of the biggest confusion is the relationship between IOR and Valdada, so lets set this strait. Valdada is a completely separate company run by completely different people. Valdada just happen to import products made buy IOR to the US. I am a bit confused to see the hate for IOR scopes here as in Europe they are very highly regarded and are regularly used in high end competitive shooting. They are generally considered to be optically superb and very robust scopes. I kind of assumed that was the general view in the US as well from reading reviews like this

The Valdada G2 Recon has absolutely no connection with IOR or the similarly named Recon and Recon Mk2 aka Gen 2 scopes from IOR. The Valdada G2 Recon is actually made by Light Optics Works in Japan. They are a OEM manufacturers that makes most of the high end Japanese made scopes from many of the big brands like NightForce, Vortex and such like. Light Optics Works are world renowned for making extremely good scopes. They are renowned for both mechanical accuracy as well as durability. I would have no reason to believe the G2 Recon would be any more or less reliable and accurate than any other top end scope coming from Light Optics Works. Whilst the Japanese glass is extremely good it does tend to lag a little behind the very best from Europe. The Japanese glass tends to look a little washed out compared to the European glass. So what Valdada did was get Light Optic Works to put a substantial amount of high end German made Schott glass in the mid section of there scope that gives a noticeable improvement in image quality. It's certainty the best I have seen from a scope from Light Optics Works and is right up there mixing it with many of the very best European scopes. What Valdada also did was spec a large 40mm main tube that gives substantially greater adjustment and retains image clarity over a wider range of adjustment. So it's certainty understandable why it costs more than other scopes coming from Light Optic Works. As for if you think it's worth it or not that's a personal thing.

I would also like to address the image that ajv53XX of the IOR scope that tested 94% on a tracking test. The image is actually not a Recon at all but of a much older design scope that is older than this review it's actually part of there cheaper classic hunting range and not the tactical or target range, but even so they still normally get good reviews.

You joined just to shill for a scope lol. How does Vals dick taste? Enjoy your short stay here.
 
I don’t think that went as imagined...lol

Although if he is correct about the model year that might be something to add to the list.

if certain manufacturers have several designs/upgrades that have the same model number, tests could be “last years spec”

just thinking out loud
 
garbage

they are pieces of shit and nobody on here cares about your propaganda, removing your links to other websites

That was a stronger reaction than I expected. I can see there is genuine hate here but am interested to know why. given it appears to cover multiple models and brands I am guessing it's more a hate for Valdada than a specific product. Bad customer service perhaps? Shoddy business practices maybe?
 
there are different spec's just because a scope comes from LOW doesn't make it up to par with the others

There are plenty of optics from that stable that are not NF in quality, as well both NF and Vortex double-check the Japanese work, it's not out of the box,

I visited Vortex in the US, not Japan

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The scope gets worked over here,
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Maybe someone should tell IOR it's not out of the box, it is "remove" the Japanese internals and replace them with US Ones

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The idea they bought a LOW Product and that fixes it, comical at best