I am interested in getting the VALDADA-IOR 9-36 X 44 SOUDER FFP MIL/MIL. I just want to know if they make any good scopes before I spend $2400 on this thing.
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Interisting. I am new here and I was only looking for scope Info. I didn't realise those scopes were that hated around here. I guess I really want to know why they suck at this point.Let me put it gently, if you listen to Rex and get one of these you're gonna be like those
pieces of shit out there who beg for
change. They walk around like a bunch of
fuckin' zombies, they sleep in garbage
bins, they eat what I throw away, and dogs
piss on 'em. They got a word for 'em,
they're called bums. And with one of those scopes, that's what you're gonna be – a fuckin' bum! Hope this helps.
I’ve not owned one but I have followed the threads as they are sometimes entertaining. My understanding is the glass is good but the rest of the internals are not and service is almost non existent. Also there was some fiasco where they put the Snipers Hide logo on one of their scopes without permission. So on top of the poor scope, they burned their bridge here...Interisting. I am new here and I was only looking for scope Info. I didn't realise those scopes were that hated around here. I guess I really want to know why they suck at this point.
Thank you for your input. I will keep those brand in mind and do some more reaserch. Thank you.For the same money you can still get a very good, proven optic. Vortex gen ii razor or amg, Leopold mk5, sig tango 6, and if you're willing to go used probably nightforce, schmidt and bender, etc.
Uh, now you have to tell us. Social media rules.
Let me put it gently, if you listen to Rex and get one of these you're gonna be like those
pieces of shit out there who beg for
change. They walk around like a bunch of
fuckin' zombies, they sleep in garbage
bins, they eat what I throw away, and dogs
piss on 'em. They got a word for 'em,
they're called bums. And with one of those scopes, that's what you're gonna be – a fuckin' bum! Hope this helps.
I don´t get it, but something seems obvious.
What I don´t get, is that the IORs over here on the old continent have a pretty good reputation.
Especially in the Austrian community (here in Germany are not much Longrangers) they praise them.
Malfunctions etc., none.
And what seems obvious to me, is that all those inhere who tell that the IORs are crap begin their statement with:
"Way back..."
"In the old days..." or
"Many years ago when..."
and so on and so forth.
And all those, who praise the IORs still use them or had them short time ago.
So, just a simple question from someone who has no clue but searchs for a scope and an IOR would fit the bill in 95%:
Is it possible, that IOR was trash once and isn´t now?
Or is here someone who has an IOR right now (a newer one, not an old model) and has trouble with it?
I have no dog in this fight. But do you seriously believe that European shooters don't know they have options like swarovski, s&b, Khales, vortex, etc?The most common response I see is, "there are much better choices in the price range. Choices that are built with modern technology. No threaded on bells to strike and jump a thread. One piece tubes. No need for 40mm tubes to fit erectors that are made much smaller today, with the only compromise being the cost to build them. So maybe they have a good reputation on the old continent because people from there don't know any better. Who knows?
They finally wised up and had someone else make their Recon, then they let their retard flop back out by putting in a 40mm tube still.
Of course we do.
Living on the wrong side of the ocean doesn´t mean that we still live in caves.
I saw this video, which brought me to the IORs.
And I don´t know this gentleman personally, but he seems to have some experience.
I don´t know if he has some interest in the industry or not, but he sounds honest to me.
Also did I google him and found some pretty good reputation about him in the Brits forums, so....
WTF 55 minutes, is this the euro version of Rex reviews? I am not watching that mush mouthed limy quote me specs like a 55 minute infomercial. What was that supposed to prove?
Like I said, the Austrians love it.
Here it is so-so, what a pita!
I have no clue what´s right or wrong but I can´t afford to waste money, so I will look for other tubes I guess.
I think cost is the big rub. Here they cost as much or more than a Schmitt and Bender. I would still never go for a 40mm multi-piece tube scope {Thats just my shitty opinion}, but in the price range of the Crounus or the Delta, which I hear is very similar{no experience with the Delta} I think its a viable option. Especially if their warranty is up and working now, and if they are anodizing them instead of painting them now.
I found it!!!! A post without “Hi and Thanks”!!!’BUT....Rex says...........
Well, he does a review of a bunch of scopes which came out in 2017 or close before.
He has shot all of those for a while, compares them one after the other and climbs up in quality from his point of view.
Finally he compares the Vortex Razor and an IOR Recon as the best of all of them, with a hair above for the Razor.
That being said, the IORs are very much cheaper over here and the Razor costs about 1k more than the Recon.
I think the only people that can be trusted are those who have paid full price for their kit like the average joe no sponsorship no conflict of interest etc.
My problem is, that 2000 Euro is quite some money for me, and I want the best scope I can get for it (like we all do).
But now I´m stuck.