Vectronix PLRF10 or 15

Re: Vectronix PLRF10 or 15

Thanks for the replies.I am about to order one just trying to find out if the PLRF15 is capable of more consistent readings beyond a 1000 yards on smaller targets than the PLRF10.
 
Re: Vectronix PLRF10 or 15

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ACSC</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Thanks for the replies.I am about to order one just trying to find out if the PLRF15 is capable of more consistent readings beyond a 1000 yards on smaller targets than the PLRF10. </div></div>

You will have no problems with a PLRF10 on small targets at 1000 yards. I range my 20" square target at a mile with mine on bags, no problem.. bright sun. If you are wanting more accurate readings on smaller targets you will like the smaller beam of the PLRF10. At 1000 yards the beam size of the PLRF10 is 1 foot x 3 1/2 feet.

Jeff
 
Re: Vectronix PLRF10 or 15

Thanks Broz,
I am looking for an improvement on the performance of my Leica's the BRF 10x42 1400 yard model.
Ranging anything on flat ground beyond 600 yards with the Leica's is problematic in any conditions.
How would you rate the PLRF10 against the Leica BRF's?

Andrew
 
Re: Vectronix PLRF10 or 15

These are just specs, and everything is all shooters preference :


Technical Data PLRF10
Optics Data interface
Observation monocular Standard interface type RS232
Magnification Field of view Objective diameter Focus
Reticle
Eye relief Dioptric setting 1064 nm laser protection
Rangefinder (distance)
6x 106 mil / 6° 27 mm fixed red LED square, activated by key and glass reticle with 5 mil graduation 21 mm > +2 to -4 diopters attenuation factor O.D. > 4
Power supply
Standard, on-board 2x 3V lithium battery type CR123A
Battery capacity (20°C) > 10000 measurements, low battery indicator
Environmental conditions, tested to MIL-STD-810
Laser type 905 nm, class 1 eye-safe per IEC 60825-1 Ed 1.2
Waterproof optional
Operational temperature Storage temperature
Shock Vibration
Physical
1 m, 30 minutes 10 m, 30 minutes -35°C to +63°C -31°F to +145°F -40°C to +85°C -40°F to +185°F 40 g / 11 ms / xyz 10 to 500 Hz in 10 minutes
Range capability Specified performance
Accuracy (1&#963;) False alarm rate Resolution on display Multiple targets Time per measurement Repetition rate Beam divergence, typical
Display
(2001-08), ANSI Z 136.1 (2000) 5 m to 2500 m 1800 m at visibility 15 km, 2.3 x 2.3m target, albedo 0.4 detection probability 90%
± 2 m < 2% 1 m / 1 yd / 1 ft up to 3 targets in line of sight 0.4 s 12 per minute 0.3 x 1.5 mil
Housing aluminium anodized in removable shock absorbing
Type light emitting diodes (LED) with automatic brightness
Colour Tripod interface Dimensions with rubber armoring
length width height
Weight with rubber armoring and batteries
rubber armoring black standard 1&#8260;4 inch thread
125 mm / 5.0 in 101 mm / 4.0 in 50 mm / 2.0 in < 620 g / 1.4 lbs
Vectronix AG Max-Schmidheiny-Strasse 202 CH-9435 Heerbrugg Switzerland Telephone +41 71 726 72 00 Fax +41 71 726 72 01 www.vectronix.ch
Data displayed Unit settings
control and dimming for image intensifiers slope distance and other functions according to the user manual
meter, yard, feet

And the PLRF15 is :

Technical Data PLRF15
Optics Data interface
Observation monocular Standard interface type RS232
Magnification Field of view Objective diameter Focus
Reticle
Eye relief Dioptric setting 1064 nm laser protection
Rangefinder (distance)
6x 106 mil / 6° 27 mm fixed red LED square, activated by key and glass reticle with 5 mil graduation 21 mm > +2 to -4 diopters attenuation factor O.D. > 4
Power supply
Standard, on-board 2x 3V lithium battery type CR123A
Battery capacity (20°C) > 10000 measurements, low battery indicator
Environmental conditions, tested to MIL-STD-810
Laser type 1550 nm, class 1 eye-safe per IEC 60825-1 Ed 1.2
Waterproof optional
Operational temperature Storage temperature
Shock Vibration
Physical
1 m, 30 minutes 10 m, 30 minutes -35°C to +63°C -31°F to +145°F -40°C to +85°C -40°F to +185°F 40 g / 11 ms / xyz 10 to 500 Hz in 10 minutes
Range capability Specified performance
Accuracy (1&#963;)
False alarm rate Resolution on display Multiple targets Time per measurement Repetition rate
Beam divergencem, typical
Display
(2001-08), ANSI Z 136.1 (2000) 5 m to 3000 m 2500 m at visibility 15 km, 2.3 x 2.3m target, albedo 0.4 detection probability 90%
± 2 m (50 m to 1500 m) ± 5 m (< 50 m / > 1500 m) < 2% 1 m / 1 yd / 1 ft up to 3 targets in line of sight 0.9 s 12 per minute 0.5 x 2.0 mil
Housing aluminium anodized in removable shock absorbing
Type light emitting diodes (LED) with automatic brightness
Colour Tripod interface Dimensions with rubber armoring
length width height
Weight with rubber armoring and batteries
rubber armoring black standard 1&#8260;4 inch thread
125 mm / 5.0 in 101 mm / 4.0 in 50 mm / 2.0 in < 620 g / 1.4 lbs
Vectronix AG Max-Schmidheiny-Strasse 202 CH-9435 Heerbrugg Switzerland Telephone +41 71 726 72 00 Fax +41 71 726 72 01 www.vectronix.ch
Data displayed Unit settings
control and dimming for image intensifiers slope distance and other functions according to the user manual
meter, yard, feet
 
Re: Vectronix PLRF10 or 15

I forgot and the prices are:

Article No. Description
901942 Vector IV S 13,200$
901919 Vector IV SR1 13,500$
903216 Vector IV BT 15,900$

Article No. Description
901761 PLRF 10 3,700$
901762 PLRF 15 5,600$
 
Re: Vectronix PLRF10 or 15


The difference appears to be , the 15 ranges out a bit further , also the Laser in the 15 is different ( its a different wave lenght , and is 1550nm which is out side the spectum that is able to be seen thru NV gear ) , it also see's the human eye as more opque rather than transperant and is a also a safety thing .

If you are going to link it to a ballistic programme , you may want the " C " version of either , gives bearing to tgt as well as polar vectors , useful to most programmes .

Later CHris
 
Re: Vectronix PLRF10 or 15

[email protected]
Mike Nolan
Business Development
Hand Held Technology
Vectronix, Inc.
801 Sycolin Road SE
Suite 206
Leesburg, VA 20175
703-485-0182 (Direct)
571-246-3759 (Cell)
703-777-3900 x7182

703-777-3940 (Fax)
 
I dint know about the "C" versions prices
 
Re: Vectronix PLRF10 or 15

when I talked to them about 2 weeks ago they were not selling anything for personal use. You needed to be a LE agency or government agency to make the purchase.


JEffVN
 
Re: Vectronix PLRF10 or 15

A bit further???

I have the 15c and it easily ranges beyond 3,500m

Bottom line line is the 10 ranges further than most of us will ever shoot,...unless your playing with artillery!

The C variants are fully featured.

Get either as they are all the best there is at present.
 
Re: Vectronix PLRF10 or 15

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jeffvn</div><div class="ubbcode-body">when I talked to them about 2 weeks ago they were not selling anything for personal use. You needed to be a LE agency or government agency to make the purchase.


JEffVN </div></div>

Not sure who you spoke to there, but I ordered a PLRF10 from them a couple of weeks ago, no problem. Just had to fill out a form stating that it would not be exported.
 
Re: Vectronix PLRF10 or 15

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ACSC</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Thanks Broz,
I am looking for an improvement on the performance of my Leica's the BRF 10x42 1400 yard model.
Ranging anything on flat ground beyond 600 yards with the Leica's is problematic in any conditions.
How would you rate the PLRF10 against the Leica BRF's?

Andrew</div></div>

If you're talking about Leica Geovids, I can give you some subjective information about how they compare.

I shot a match earlier this year that had steel targets in both open fields and in the woods. Ranges varied from 300-500yds in the woods and 1000+yds in open fields. We had 3 different pairs of Geovids (including mine) that simply wouldn't range any of the targets accurately.

Small limbs around the targets in the woods prevented ranging and the small size of the targets at distance in the open fields made it difficult/impossible to range as well. Swarov. range finders wouldn't work either. The size of the targets along with other conditions rendered them practically useless.

One guy had a PLRF10 and ranging all the targets was a piece of cake.
 
Re: Vectronix PLRF10 or 15

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ACSC</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Thanks Broz,
I am looking for an improvement on the performance of my Leica's the BRF 10x42 1400 yard model.
Ranging anything on flat ground beyond 600 yards with the Leica's is problematic in any conditions.
How would you rate the PLRF10 against the Leica BRF's?

Andrew </div></div>

Sorry I missed your question, but I have to agree with DT1.

I have never owned a BRF but, I have carried a CRF1200 and a Swaro Laser Guide both for two years now. Although I feel both the leice and Swro are a value for their price, they are nowhere near the same league as the RLRF10.

Jeff
 
Re: Vectronix PLRF10 or 15

Thanks Jeff,
I have owned Geovids since they were first available and used pretty much everything else with mixed results apart from the Vectronix gear.
The performance of the PLRF's seems as advertised, looks like the PLRF10C will be the way I will go.

Andrew
 
Re: Vectronix PLRF10 or 15

Vectronix also have a kit called "SORD" complete with PLRF15C and ballistic computer . For 10K for the complete kit.

The PLRF15C is good to 3 km and has compass for angle shot dope…

And contact Mike Nolan for any other in for ...
 
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this is my solutions very close to SORD

Vectronix PLRF 10 C
NOMAD L800 with FFS version IV LE
Kestrel 4500 BT to transfer all data to software

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Kenaz N100 GPS upgrade for NOMAD L800

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Re: Vectronix PLRF10 or 15

Davide,
I am looking to run the same setup can you tell me which if any of the additional software options for the PLRF 10 C you needed to link the Kestrel and Nomad to the PLRF 10 C.

Andrew
 
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the PLRF 10 C comes ready to be connected to a NOMAD through RS232 port ( you have to change the port configuration if your has a usb port....
FFS software I use has the link for PLRF and Kestrel

the only thing you have to buy is a cable to connect PLRF 10 C with NOMAD... is a Vectronix cable, I suggest you to buy a cable with button... more easy to laser small target, you don't touch the PLRF
 
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I have the plrf 15c. It will range long +3600m on non reflective stuff eg trees. However it is probably best to think of it as a ranging system that can take into account slope, 3 distance raning etc and be hooked up to other kit.

If you need what it offers then it is excellent, really excellent. If all that is needed is a rangefinder to 1km - 1.5km then the Swarovski LG will do that for much less coin (used one of them as well).

David.

 
Re: Vectronix PLRF10 or 15

davide what did you pay for your gps upgrade / where you get it???, i may look into that, my nomad doesn't pick up location very quickly especially under any type of cover if @ all.
 
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wow people really buy those GPS units for personal use. I seem to remeber getting a simple Garmin to hook to a laser designator. I know the we had the standard GPS units but they were heavy and complicated. I would also like to get a better range finder but did not know they sold these to the public. It sure beats carrying an old optical range finder that is huge when I go shoot my 50. Did I read correctly that the base unit is $3700 for the 10. I don't think I need all the extras GPS and all since I will not be calling artillery or airstikes at home.
 
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I don't think I need all the extras GPS and all since I will not be calling artillery or airstikes at home.[/quote]

Yes sure.... not in my home, but some people ( not me ) need to be informed to all the possibility that this system is able to do.......some more info about it in the next future...