Hey guys, I put a viper hs-t on my girlfriend's 223 and when I got home I put the zero stop shims in and tested it. Each time the turret would turn a different amount past zero. It gradually turned more and more past zero. To the point I was able to get the last 2 shims in. I never felt the turret slip and it still turns past zero a different amount before it stops. I understand that it's not supposed to stop on actual zero but shouldn't it stop close to the same amount past it? Sometimes it stop a quarter turn past it other times half a turn. WTF?
Rifle Scopes Viper shim zero stops don't repeat??
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Thanks you're probably right because I don't like to force things. I just didn't know if this was normal
Had similar issues with my Athlon scope. I sharpied a couole marks so I knew where it should stop.
That type of zero stop is NOT designed as a hard stop, just a soft stop so you can't become a "rev off". When you hit the soft stop, wherever that is, you to turn back up to your "0".
BTDT!
Make sure to wipe off those shims with a lint free cloth before installing them.
It can really help.
It’s never a rock solid though.
Make sure to wipe off those shims with a lint free cloth before installing them.
It can really help.
It’s never a rock solid though.
Buddy had one, did the same thing you did. Kept cranking down because it bothered him that it wasn’t a dead stop. It jacked the internals up and he had to send it back...
My Athlon Cronus and Burris XTR II are both zero stop. Feels like the turrets hits a wall. They’re both awesome.
I had a viper pst with that same shim zero stop. Didn’t like it at all and never used it after seeing what happened when it got forced a bit to much on my buddies
My Athlon Cronus and Burris XTR II are both zero stop. Feels like the turrets hits a wall. They’re both awesome.
I had a viper pst with that same shim zero stop. Didn’t like it at all and never used it after seeing what happened when it got forced a bit to much on my buddies
Wow. Good to know. I hope I didn't already mess it up. I never cranked down on it hard but after playing with it, it did open up enough to take two more shims. I guess I'll find out if it's still zeroed next trip to the range. It would really suck if this thing is so delicate. I bought one for myself too and waiting on it to come back from a warranty repair. I never even mounted that one before I had to send it back. Not impressed with this product.
I owned 2 viper pst and 1 HS. My HS (not the HS-T) elevation adjustment crapped out after about 50 rounds of 308. My 6 - 24 PST came with the parallax knob not working. Would spin but didn’t do anything.
My 1-4 worked fine but have since sold them all
And to think I bought two of them! ?
Hopefully they can survive on a 223. If they don't these will be the last Vortex products I buy. Now I'm dying to get her rifle to the range to see if the scope broke internally just by using the crs zero stop as designed.
If your dumb enough to crank down tight enough on the zero stop to break things you deserved what you got.
Set it so it goes a few tenths low(or 1moa for the uncouth) then dial up a bit for perfect zero.
My only vortex scope is a 6x24 HS-T.
It’s been on a AR for thousands of rounds, wore out a barrel on my 260 and seen 200 or so rounds on a 338 lapua and 338 Norma mag and it’s still doing awesome.
Thanks pal, I agree with you if I did "crank down" on it. Apparently you didn't read the whole thread where I said I didn't. I made that last post in reference to the other post where someone else had damaged their scope by using the zero stop. I can't verify or quantify how much force he used to do so. I can tell you that I'm not a heavy hand on anything. If my scope is in fact damaged it's because it's either a bad design or defective. The fact that the scope turret doesn't stop in the same general place is what concerns me.
I wasn’t commenting about you.
More the person that posted about someone destroying a scope because of being ham handed.
The shim type stops are a cheap way to get an zero stop but you can’t get as precise as more expensive optics can.
My Athlon cronos sero stop is rock solid and precise.
Set it so I goes a bit past zero then dial back.
I ran the shim style stop for quite a while in my HS-T and it was totally functional if you adapted to it’s limitations.
His comment was towards my comment on my friend having issues with his. To be honest the scope may have just not been reliable to begin with or simply just failed. Pretty sure a lot of people experienced the great customer service from vortex. Which I will say was top notch
Well I'm glad to hear that you had good luck with yours. Gives me hope. Only time will tell how they work out for me.
Just send it to Vortex. They don't repair the lower end scopes they will just send you a new one.
I just sent them back my other brand new never mounted 6-24x50 viper hs-t because the objective trim rings were staggered. The return was based on their representatives recommendation. He said that it sounded like the scope body threads weren't cut to spec. Today I called about the zero stop shims and asked them about the other return and they read the report that said the misalignment of the objective rings doesn't effect the optical performance so the scope was cleaned and returned to me. It's due to arrive Monday. I told todays representative that I wasn't happy with waiting a week plus to have the scope returned the same exact way. He said that he will talk to someone about getting me another and I should refuse the delivery Monday if I wanted to expedite the process. All I have to do now is leave work early and wait on the porch to intercept the FedEx driver.
Yup. This ^^^^
It's not a hard / true zero-stop. It's just a convenient (and inexpensive) way to get back to "zero" without going WAY past it. But, it's not supposed to stop AT the zero, exactly. You spin it down until it stops (don't force it!), which is a few to several clicks past your actual zero. Then dial it up to true zero. Easy, peasy.
I also have the Viper HST 6 - 24 X 50 on my RPR 6.5CM. It's been on the rifle since the first shot, and I'm at 2700 rounds now. Works perfectly, and I haven't had any issues (knocking on wood!).
