Vortex is back with reticled eye piece

Yeah we just started taking order on them, can't wait to get one in the shop so I can play around with it, if it's anything like the razors its gonna be hot for a ranging reticle.
 
Just use a Recon. Has a reticle and easy to be hand held.
Edit: okay, I see what you're saying, but a binocular is much more comfortable to spot impacts than a single monocular. How about vortex just using the Recon as the base for a pair of binoculars. If the recon is $700 MSRP, then I can't see how a binocular could not be double the price with reticle and LRF on one side (right barrel) and a plain old optical barrel on the left. Am I missing something?
 
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Or in their Fury LRF binos...range, observe shot, call correction...

I don’t know why this hasn’t been done in the reasonable price range yet. Maybe because it doesn’t really cross over into the hunting world. I’d imagine hunters are more interested in an unobstructed view for glassing mountain sides all day. Oh and Vortex, make it talk to my Kestrel 4dof please. You’ll get all my MAGA bucks.
 
Loaded question, but for someone who is shopping for their first spotter, with Vortex adding reticles, where does this put them in the strict sense of a value purchase?
 
Depends on what you intend to do with the spotter...

Glassing for animals?
Spotting for a match?
Spotting and calling corrections for a fellow shooter?

Each task has it's own set of requirements (and a value for those requirements).
 
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I don’t know why this hasn’t been done in the reasonable price range yet. Maybe because it doesn’t really cross over into the hunting world. I’d imagine hunters are more interested in an unobstructed view for glassing mountain sides all day. Oh and Vortex, make it talk to my Kestrel 4dof please. You’ll get all my MAGA bucks.

I hated my Leupold Mk4 spotter for hunting. The reticle was always in the way when trying to glass and count points. I like the possibility to swap eye pieces for hunting and shooting.
 
I hated my Leupold Mk4 spotter for hunting. The reticle was always in the way when trying to glass and count points. I like the possibility to swap eye pieces for hunting and shooting.

Another reason for binos with a reticle; your brain will revert to the left eye when the right is obscured by something (like a reticle). With a spotter, you're hosed if it blocks something.
 
Depends on what you intend to do with the spotter...

Glassing for animals?
Spotting for a match?
Spotting and calling corrections for a fellow shooter?

Each task has it's own set of requirements (and a value for those requirements).

In order of need/preference:

#3, #2, then #1.
 
Then you probably want something with a wide FOV, a reticle and decent contrast/pop. Since you're not trying to distinguish a brow tine sticking out of a bush, FOV to see, and transition, to targets as well as a reticle to give corrections become priorities (IMHO). Use that to guide your decision on cost/benefit of what you want to spend, and what you think you need.

Or you can just get a Hendsoldt 45, and call it good. :D
 
Then you probably want something with a wide FOV, a reticle and decent contrast/pop. Since you're not trying to distinguish a brow tine sticking out of a bush, FOV to see, and transition, to targets as well as a reticle to give corrections become priorities (IMHO). Use that to guide your decision on cost/benefit of what you want to spend, and what you think you need.

Or you can just get a Hendsoldt 45, and call it good. :D

Not the first person who told me to just get the henny 45 and be done.
 
Maybe go a little lighter on the ..... :p;)

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What's the deal with locking you in at 33.5x? Is that just where the reticle is accurate or is the magnification actually dependent on the eyepiece? I see the Razor eyepiece is at only 22x?

I haven't owned a spotter before but am in the market for one so I'm not 100% on how they function.
 
Only available in MOA? WTF...
Will stick to spotting through my actual rifle scope. Been working ok out to about 1200 yards. The Razor version of this reticle is fixed at 22x. My rifle scope is 25x. So that's a no-go. And the 33x Viper version probably isn't all that much more zoomed in than 25x in reality.
 
Depends on what you intend to do with the spotter...

Glassing for animals?
Spotting for a match?
Spotting and calling corrections for a fellow shooter?

Each task has it's own set of requirements (and a value for those requirements).

You make good points.

Animals - A basic moa/mil crosshair can be looked through quite easily if you move the crosshair to one side. And also give an idea of what size animal you are looking at.
Match-Depending on what kind, again basic mil/moa crosshair can help in a wide open multiple range target match. Not really a hindrance when spotting hits on an F-class target.

Spotting and calling corrections - Again, the basic mil/moa crosshair will work just fine. This is the only place I might say some kind of Horus/Christmas tree reticle would do you any good. Although, I'm still not a fan.
 
Only available in MOA? WTF...
Will stick to spotting through my actual rifle scope. Been working ok out to about 1200 yards. The Razor version of this reticle is fixed at 22x. My rifle scope is 25x. So that's a no-go. And the 33x Viper version probably isn't all that much more zoomed in than 25x in reality.
The pic that I posted as well as the review were with the MRAD version.
The Vortex eyepiece reticle is fine enough to clearly see your intended target, yet easy to use calling misses.
Yes, a Horus style reticle has it's pros and cons, especially in a more vegetated area, yet this reticle is working great so far...
 
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Only available in MOA? WTF...
Will stick to spotting through my actual rifle scope. Been working ok out to about 1200 yards. The Razor version of this reticle is fixed at 22x. My rifle scope is 25x. So that's a no-go. And the 33x Viper version probably isn't all that much more zoomed in than 25x in reality.

Spotting with your own rifle scope works great on heavier rifles, but when I set up my new elk rifle, this will be GREAT to have. and 22x vs 25x might seem stupid, but have you checked the difference in FOV? and again, if you can self-spot, more power to you, but not every rifle setup makes that possible. 33x is enough zoom to spot trace WAY our while maintaining an excellent FOV. are their features I wish it had? Sure, but those features cost money, and likely would have blown away the intended price point and customer set.
 
Spotting with your own rifle scope works great on heavier rifles, but when I set up my new elk rifle, this will be GREAT to have. and 22x vs 25x might seem stupid, but have you checked the difference in FOV? and again, if you can self-spot, more power to you, but not every rifle setup makes that possible. 33x is enough zoom to spot trace WAY our while maintaining an excellent FOV. are their features I wish it had? Sure, but those features cost money, and likely would have blown away the intended price point and customer set.

Yeah, better FOV is certainly a valid benefit.