Rifle Scopes Vortex-SS-IOR-Nightforce?

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I just ordered an AR upper from DTech, and the wait is about 12 months. Now I have a year to save up for some good glass to put on top of it,this combo will be used on Pdogs and paper punching. I currently use a Vortex Viper5.5-20x44, SS 20x, and Burris Xtreme Tactical 3-12x56. I like the Viper, but the glass is not as clear as the Burris, but the Viper is clearer (all based on my personal opinion) than the SS. But none of these scopes are as clear as my brother's Trijicon AccuPoint. So my question is if there is anyone out there who has personally used or handled the new Vortex HS LR 6-24x50 FFP, the IOR 3-18x42 FFP SF Mil/Mil, or the NXS 5.5-20x50 with ZS.
I know that the Vortex is a new offering but I really like the XLR reticle. I know I will get lots of NF likes, but I hopoing there are other options. Thanks in advance. And if I missed any questions please let me know.
 
Re: Vortex-SS-IOR-Nightforce?

My wife and I have the NF and the IOR. The IOR is 6-24, but maybe the glass is the same between the two. My wife does not know anything past the name on a scope, so her thoughts are based on use only. While we have some 5.5-22 NF, she has a 8-32 NF on her CM, and the other night I ask if she wanted to shoot the 7-08 which has the 6-24 IOR. She did and got behind the rifle and looked through the scope. She looked up and said, man this thing is clear.
Might not be a ringing endorsement, but there it is.
 
Re: Vortex-SS-IOR-Nightforce?

I have 2 NF NXS 5.5-22X50 scopes and 2 Vortex Vipers PST 4-16X50 (only I tried out yet)scopes. But my favorite is the NF scope. NF scope. The Vortex is great for the $$$ but it's not a NF.
 
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Oops! The SS 5-20 is the other scope I am considering. I just forgot to mention it. I am pretty sure all these are good scopes and they all offer what I need, so basically, it comes down to how clear the glass is. I just wish I had all of them side by side to compare.
 
Re: Vortex-SS-IOR-Nightforce?

I did not see the vortex pst ffp. As far as the hs lr I do not believe that it is out yet there are very slow. Nightforce are nice but for the money I would go pst $50 more than the hs lr will be and you get a little more options, unless you want the 100moa or mils that the nightforce has.
 
Re: Vortex-SS-IOR-Nightforce?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> I am pretty sure all these are good scopes and they all offer what I need, so basically, it comes down to how clear the glass is.</div></div>

This is what most people say when they're buying a scope and I think that being in this frame of mind could lead to a bad purchase, or one that you are less than satisfied with. I mean, of course, there's usually going to be a pretty big difference when comparing a $100 scope to a $1000 scope, but when comparing scopes in the same general league, glass quality is less of a concern.

As in the example above regarding the IOR and Nightforce. Obviously, the wife felt that the IOR glass was clearer. Assuming that the glass was indeed clearer and not due to some misadjustment, you should also ask whether the extra clarity will get you any practical gain.

The point that I'm trying to get to is that the perceived quality of the glass is just one consideration. I feel there is a point in glass quality that you can reach where the quality is good enough and anything more is not needed.

I guess you'd say that I'm a Nightforce fanboy. I've been using them for a little while now and they fit what I needed very well. I find them to be a very good bang for the buck and haven't felt compelled to upgrade to the likes of S&B or Premiere.

I went with NF because I could get a scope with very good glass, rock solid internals with lots of adjustment range and a VERY solid build. I also like the Nightforce from an ergonomic standpoint. I like the fact that you can grab the whole eye piece to zoom. I like the course knurling on the knobs that don't get caught on clothing. I like the course clicks on the turrets that make it easy to dial quickly. I also like the focus knob and the selection of reticles that they offer.

Although some of the scopes mentioned here may or may not have glass that is marginally (or more) better than that of a Nightforce, I really don't think that anyone can argue that any of those other scopes are tougher than a Nightforce.

Quite frankly, if glass quality was all that I was worried about, I would have stuck with a Swarovski Z5. I got my last 3.5-18x on sale for under $1400 and the glass on it will blow away the glass in all of the scopes mentioned here, except the S&B and Premiere.

My only point is that you should make a list of features and priorites that you want in your scope and start from there.