Rifle Scopes Vortex Viper HS 5-15x44 Mil-Dot
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Re: Vortex Viper HS 5-15x44 Mil-Dot
I didn't have a chance to read the manual but the number 15 is red on the dial so I would almost bet the reticle is calibrated for max zoom.
I didn't have a chance to read the manual but the number 15 is red on the dial so I would almost bet the reticle is calibrated for max zoom.
Re: Vortex Viper HS 5-15x44 Mil-Dot
How would a scope like the vortex viper hs or pst compare to a scope like a nightforce 3.5-15 NXS scope. Price is around eight hundred more for a nightforce, but how much of a difference is there between the two?
Sorry to throw a monkey wrench in the thread.
How would a scope like the vortex viper hs or pst compare to a scope like a nightforce 3.5-15 NXS scope. Price is around eight hundred more for a nightforce, but how much of a difference is there between the two?
Sorry to throw a monkey wrench in the thread.
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Can someone give me an exact measurement of the objective diameter? With the mount I am using on my AR it is very low and I only have a tiny bit of clearance with my 44mm bushnell so I would like to compare. Thanks.
Can someone give me an exact measurement of the objective diameter? With the mount I am using on my AR it is very low and I only have a tiny bit of clearance with my 44mm bushnell so I would like to compare. Thanks.
Re: Vortex Viper HS 5-15x44 Mil-Dot
Not really exact, but it measures 2.05" w/ a scale and is about 13.5" long. I don't think it really needs notches to feel if it's set to range; if in doubt just turn it all the way clockwise. YMMV
The bell at the obj is rounded, so it doesn't give a good smooth look if you're useing the shade.
There's a fo bead in the elev turret that points toward shooter when on zero. Turret feel pretty good, but I feel a little difference as I turn (not all clicks feel the same).
Glass looks good, it'll probably look better when I get it mounted vs just holding it.
I'm going to mount mine on a MK12 look-a-like. If there's any issues with it, I'll post them. So far, it looks like it's worth a lot more than what I paid for it.
Not really exact, but it measures 2.05" w/ a scale and is about 13.5" long. I don't think it really needs notches to feel if it's set to range; if in doubt just turn it all the way clockwise. YMMV
The bell at the obj is rounded, so it doesn't give a good smooth look if you're useing the shade.
There's a fo bead in the elev turret that points toward shooter when on zero. Turret feel pretty good, but I feel a little difference as I turn (not all clicks feel the same).
Glass looks good, it'll probably look better when I get it mounted vs just holding it.
I'm going to mount mine on a MK12 look-a-like. If there's any issues with it, I'll post them. So far, it looks like it's worth a lot more than what I paid for it.
Re: Vortex Viper HS 5-15x44 Mil-Dot
Got both mine yesterday. Glass looked good, turrets felt decent, and scope was too heavy or long. So far for 399.00 I like it alot. Once I get some rings ill post some pics.
Got both mine yesterday. Glass looked good, turrets felt decent, and scope was too heavy or long. So far for 399.00 I like it alot. Once I get some rings ill post some pics.
Re: Vortex Viper HS 5-15x44 Mil-Dot
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Bryce6750</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Thank you John2247
So this scope is a FFP? I thought it was a SFP</div></div>
Sorry my post was misleading. The scope is not FFP and it does not have notches.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Bryce6750</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Thank you John2247
So this scope is a FFP? I thought it was a SFP</div></div>
Sorry my post was misleading. The scope is not FFP and it does not have notches.
Re: Vortex Viper HS 5-15x44 Mil-Dot
Thats what I ordered. The eye was tight, but in a good way.
Thats what I ordered. The eye was tight, but in a good way.
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Anybody else notice Midway currently has these scopes on "Clearance", meaning you can't use any coupon codes on them...but the price is the original $499.99?
Anybody else notice Midway currently has these scopes on "Clearance", meaning you can't use any coupon codes on them...but the price is the original $499.99?
Re: Vortex Viper HS 5-15x44 Mil-Dot
After following this thread for a few months I ordered one of these, it should be here this week. From all of the comments on here it looks like the scope is worth the current price of $499.
After following this thread for a few months I ordered one of these, it should be here this week. From all of the comments on here it looks like the scope is worth the current price of $499.
Re: Vortex Viper HS 5-15x44 Mil-Dot
I'm confused, and pardon my ignorance, but what's the big deal with this particular scope? Since the Viper HS comes in a 4-16, you're losing out on the magnification range.
However it does have the mildot reticle (and I'm guessing?) matched to mil/mil. Is that what's making this so desirable?
I have a Viper PST FFP and it kicks serious ass. Was just wondering about this particular model.
I'm confused, and pardon my ignorance, but what's the big deal with this particular scope? Since the Viper HS comes in a 4-16, you're losing out on the magnification range.
However it does have the mildot reticle (and I'm guessing?) matched to mil/mil. Is that what's making this so desirable?
I have a Viper PST FFP and it kicks serious ass. Was just wondering about this particular model.
Re: Vortex Viper HS 5-15x44 Mil-Dot
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">but what's the big deal with this particular scope?</div></div>
Price. After shipping, I paid ~$410 for a scope that I would compare to a $600+ scope. It's mil/mil, but is SFP and non-lum.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">but what's the big deal with this particular scope?</div></div>
Price. After shipping, I paid ~$410 for a scope that I would compare to a $600+ scope. It's mil/mil, but is SFP and non-lum.
Re: Vortex Viper HS 5-15x44 Mil-Dot
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: JelloStorm</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'm confused, and pardon my ignorance, but what's the big deal with this particular scope? Since the Viper HS comes in a 4-16, you're losing out on the magnification range.
However it does have the mildot reticle (and I'm guessing?) matched to mil/mil. Is that what's making this so desirable?
I have a Viper PST FFP and it kicks serious ass. Was just wondering about this particular model.</div></div>
It's a lot of scope for the money. For me the deal breaker was the mil-dot and mil/mil adjustment, combined with Vortex's reputation for clear glass and repeatable tracking, at a decent price. I really wish I would have bought one of these when they were $399 but it appears that even at $499 I'll be happy.
To me the magnification range is a moot point, honestly, I will probably leave it at 15x 95% of the time and the difference between 15x and 16x isn't significant. I rarely put my variable powered scopes on their lowest settings.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: JelloStorm</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'm confused, and pardon my ignorance, but what's the big deal with this particular scope? Since the Viper HS comes in a 4-16, you're losing out on the magnification range.
However it does have the mildot reticle (and I'm guessing?) matched to mil/mil. Is that what's making this so desirable?
I have a Viper PST FFP and it kicks serious ass. Was just wondering about this particular model.</div></div>
It's a lot of scope for the money. For me the deal breaker was the mil-dot and mil/mil adjustment, combined with Vortex's reputation for clear glass and repeatable tracking, at a decent price. I really wish I would have bought one of these when they were $399 but it appears that even at $499 I'll be happy.
To me the magnification range is a moot point, honestly, I will probably leave it at 15x 95% of the time and the difference between 15x and 16x isn't significant. I rarely put my variable powered scopes on their lowest settings.
Re: Vortex Viper HS 5-15x44 Mil-Dot
That scope looks like a incredible value. I have bought several PST's and HS's and have been very impressed with what you get from vortex !
That scope looks like a incredible value. I have bought several PST's and HS's and have been very impressed with what you get from vortex !
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I was just looking at grabbing another scope for my new .22. Given I want mil/mil and something from Vortex, its either this for $500, or a PST 2.5-10 for $600.. and the PST loses on magnification range, and has no parallax adjustment. All the PST seems to have over it is the illum ret, and some of the lense coatings.
The HS really does offer a lot for the money.
I was just looking at grabbing another scope for my new .22. Given I want mil/mil and something from Vortex, its either this for $500, or a PST 2.5-10 for $600.. and the PST loses on magnification range, and has no parallax adjustment. All the PST seems to have over it is the illum ret, and some of the lense coatings.
The HS really does offer a lot for the money.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Hennig</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I was just looking at grabbing another scope for my new .22. Given I want mil/mil and something from Vortex, its either this for $500, or a PST 2.5-10 for $600.. and the PST loses on magnification range, and has no parallax adjustment. All the PST seems to have over it is the illum ret, and some of the lense coatings.
The HS really does offer a lot for the money.</div></div>
I happen to own both of these scopes. To me it boils down to the Mildot vs the MRAD and ill ret. I prefer all the features of the HS over the 2.5 but the reticle.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Hennig</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I was just looking at grabbing another scope for my new .22. Given I want mil/mil and something from Vortex, its either this for $500, or a PST 2.5-10 for $600.. and the PST loses on magnification range, and has no parallax adjustment. All the PST seems to have over it is the illum ret, and some of the lense coatings.
The HS really does offer a lot for the money.</div></div>
I happen to own both of these scopes. To me it boils down to the Mildot vs the MRAD and ill ret. I prefer all the features of the HS over the 2.5 but the reticle.
Re: Vortex Viper HS 5-15x44 Mil-Dot
That's a good point actually. I do prefer the mlr on my 6-24 PST.
Still a tough decision
That's a good point actually. I do prefer the mlr on my 6-24 PST.
Still a tough decision
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Hennig</div><div class="ubbcode-body">That's a good point actually. I do prefer the mlr on my 6-24 PST.
Still a tough decision
</div></div>
Same here, I'm all about hash marks on my MLR vs. a mildot for some reason.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Hennig</div><div class="ubbcode-body">That's a good point actually. I do prefer the mlr on my 6-24 PST.
Still a tough decision
Same here, I'm all about hash marks on my MLR vs. a mildot for some reason.
Re: Vortex Viper HS 5-15x44 Mil-Dot
I just got mine yesterday from Midway and paid $499.00. It looks like it's worth every penny of the price. It will be going on my new LR 308 over the weekend. Just bought the LR308 Monday. Next week I'll get to try them both out.
I just got mine yesterday from Midway and paid $499.00. It looks like it's worth every penny of the price. It will be going on my new LR 308 over the weekend. Just bought the LR308 Monday. Next week I'll get to try them both out.
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I've been using mine for about 4 months now. It's all boxed up now, ready to go back to Vortex for warranty service. The glass on mine was much worse than I would expect. Clarity wasn't awful as long as my head was positioned perfectly in the center of the eye box. The scope had a clear lack of contrast, though. I'm interested to see what Vortex has to say.
Other than that, awesome scope! All the features I need, and none of the features I don't need. Ridiculous for $399, impressive for $499.
I've been using mine for about 4 months now. It's all boxed up now, ready to go back to Vortex for warranty service. The glass on mine was much worse than I would expect. Clarity wasn't awful as long as my head was positioned perfectly in the center of the eye box. The scope had a clear lack of contrast, though. I'm interested to see what Vortex has to say.
Other than that, awesome scope! All the features I need, and none of the features I don't need. Ridiculous for $399, impressive for $499.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Temp9</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I've been using mine for about 4 months now. It's all boxed up now, ready to go back to Vortex for warranty service. The glass on mine was much worse than I would expect. Clarity wasn't awful as long as my head was positioned perfectly in the center of the eye box. The scope had a clear lack of contrast, though. I'm interested to see what Vortex has to say.
Other than that, awesome scope! All the features I need, and none of the features I don't need. Ridiculous for $399, impressive for $499. </div></div>
Im interested to hear what they say. Please update us when you can.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Temp9</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I've been using mine for about 4 months now. It's all boxed up now, ready to go back to Vortex for warranty service. The glass on mine was much worse than I would expect. Clarity wasn't awful as long as my head was positioned perfectly in the center of the eye box. The scope had a clear lack of contrast, though. I'm interested to see what Vortex has to say.
Other than that, awesome scope! All the features I need, and none of the features I don't need. Ridiculous for $399, impressive for $499. </div></div>
Im interested to hear what they say. Please update us when you can.
Re: Vortex Viper HS 5-15x44 Mil-Dot
I'd like to know how the ZERO STOP is working for the guys who have set it up. IMO it sucks and is not worth using, it doesn't have a POSITIVE stop, once you hit the stop you can continue to turn the turret which throws off the mil marks on the turret. Has anyone else experienced this?
I'd like to know how the ZERO STOP is working for the guys who have set it up. IMO it sucks and is not worth using, it doesn't have a POSITIVE stop, once you hit the stop you can continue to turn the turret which throws off the mil marks on the turret. Has anyone else experienced this?
Re: Vortex Viper HS 5-15x44 Mil-Dot
Cox380,
I like the extra give as I set my zero at 200 and have enough to dial down to 100 to shoot paper.
Cox380,
I like the extra give as I set my zero at 200 and have enough to dial down to 100 to shoot paper.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: cox380</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'd like to know how the ZERO STOP is working for the guys who have set it up. IMO it sucks and is not worth using, it doesn't have a POSITIVE stop, once you hit the stop you can continue to turn the turret which throws off the mil marks on the turret. Has anyone else experienced this?</div></div>
Works for me. I found that the stop feels much more solid if you stack all the shims on one side, as opposed to alternating back and forth. Once you feel the turrets resisting, stop torquing it! Mine traveled about .4 mils past zero, then I turned it back until it hit zero. The biggest advantage here is knowing you are on the correct revolution.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: cox380</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'd like to know how the ZERO STOP is working for the guys who have set it up. IMO it sucks and is not worth using, it doesn't have a POSITIVE stop, once you hit the stop you can continue to turn the turret which throws off the mil marks on the turret. Has anyone else experienced this?</div></div>
Works for me. I found that the stop feels much more solid if you stack all the shims on one side, as opposed to alternating back and forth. Once you feel the turrets resisting, stop torquing it! Mine traveled about .4 mils past zero, then I turned it back until it hit zero. The biggest advantage here is knowing you are on the correct revolution.
Re: Vortex Viper HS 5-15x44 Mil-Dot
If ya find that the zero stop goes, say. 0.6mil below your zero...crank the scope 0.6mil above zero and shim it there.
WHAMMY, it'll stop where you want it to.
If ya find that the zero stop goes, say. 0.6mil below your zero...crank the scope 0.6mil above zero and shim it there.
WHAMMY, it'll stop where you want it to.
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Well it came in and appears to be a damn nice scope. Bought a Zeiss MC Conquest with Rapid Z 800 reticle in the interim, just not enough patience
My Vortex power ring is "Extremely" difficult to turn. Worked it back and forth a few times with no difference regarding loosening up. May have to ship it off. Any others with this problem?
Well it came in and appears to be a damn nice scope. Bought a Zeiss MC Conquest with Rapid Z 800 reticle in the interim, just not enough patience
My Vortex power ring is "Extremely" difficult to turn. Worked it back and forth a few times with no difference regarding loosening up. May have to ship it off. Any others with this problem?
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My power ring is firm, but not difficult to turn.
As for the zero stop, it works as advertised - stops you a few .mils past zero. As others said, you can just pack it high so it winds down to your exact zero, or just dial it back up when you feel it bottom out.
My power ring is firm, but not difficult to turn.
As for the zero stop, it works as advertised - stops you a few .mils past zero. As others said, you can just pack it high so it winds down to your exact zero, or just dial it back up when you feel it bottom out.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: hyoslvr</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I don't know, My power ring is pretty damn hard as well!! Let me know what comes of yours 1J04</div></div>
hyoslvr, "damn hard" would be spot on. As such I'm actually afraid to mount it at this time because with the amount of force needed to turn it god only knows if it's gonna hold zero after all the reefing. I would crap kittens if I saw someone handle one of my gun/scopes like this one has to be. I'll keep cranking on it for another day or so. Correct your evil way or out the door ya go.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: hyoslvr</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I don't know, My power ring is pretty damn hard as well!! Let me know what comes of yours 1J04</div></div>
hyoslvr, "damn hard" would be spot on. As such I'm actually afraid to mount it at this time because with the amount of force needed to turn it god only knows if it's gonna hold zero after all the reefing. I would crap kittens if I saw someone handle one of my gun/scopes like this one has to be. I'll keep cranking on it for another day or so. Correct your evil way or out the door ya go.
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Mine is difficult to turn, too...not a dealbreaker by any stretch but a minor annoyance.
Mine is difficult to turn, too...not a dealbreaker by any stretch but a minor annoyance.
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Nope, not a deal breaker by any means, but it does take one hell of alot of tork to get it turning and that's a problem I'd rather not have to deal with. Wish Scott from Vortex would chime in. Might have to PM'm and get him in the loop. They'll take care of it, just don't wanna let it go after waiting 4 months. We'll see.
Nope, not a deal breaker by any means, but it does take one hell of alot of tork to get it turning and that's a problem I'd rather not have to deal with. Wish Scott from Vortex would chime in. Might have to PM'm and get him in the loop. They'll take care of it, just don't wanna let it go after waiting 4 months. We'll see.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 1J04</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Wish Scott from Vortex would chime in. </div></div>
Same here. Hopefully he will
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 1J04</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Wish Scott from Vortex would chime in. </div></div>
Same here. Hopefully he will
Re: Vortex Viper HS 5-15x44 Mil-Dot
Mine was from the earlier lot (SN #000140) and the power ring was pretty damn stiff. No way I could adjust it without pulling off target. I didn't mind, since I was on 15x most of the time, anyways. Shoot them an email if it bothers you guys. They usually respond within a few business hours.
Mine was from the earlier lot (SN #000140) and the power ring was pretty damn stiff. No way I could adjust it without pulling off target. I didn't mind, since I was on 15x most of the time, anyways. Shoot them an email if it bothers you guys. They usually respond within a few business hours.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Temp9</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Mine was from the earlier lot (SN #000140) and the power ring was pretty damn stiff. No way I could adjust it without pulling off target. I didn't mind, since I was on 15x most of the time, anyways. Shoot them an email if it bothers you guys. They usually respond within a few business hours.</div></div>
True enough Temp9, on all points. Nuff said, thx.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Temp9</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Mine was from the earlier lot (SN #000140) and the power ring was pretty damn stiff. No way I could adjust it without pulling off target. I didn't mind, since I was on 15x most of the time, anyways. Shoot them an email if it bothers you guys. They usually respond within a few business hours.</div></div>
True enough Temp9, on all points. Nuff said, thx.
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Just got one in and it is in the "damn hard" category as far as the power ring adjustment goes. I've handled another one of these scopes briefly before getting this one. The other one was brand new, but the power ring wasn't as bad. Interestingly however, the side focus on the one that I got is a little looser than the other one I got to check out before getting mine. I don't think it's too loose, but loose enough to notice the difference between the two.
After playing with the magnification adjustment ring, I did a quick search for one of those cat tails. Found a vendor that actually put something to the effect: makes it easier to adjust the magnification on Vortex scopes which are usually very difficult to adjust. Got a chuckle from that.
Just got one in and it is in the "damn hard" category as far as the power ring adjustment goes. I've handled another one of these scopes briefly before getting this one. The other one was brand new, but the power ring wasn't as bad. Interestingly however, the side focus on the one that I got is a little looser than the other one I got to check out before getting mine. I don't think it's too loose, but loose enough to notice the difference between the two.
After playing with the magnification adjustment ring, I did a quick search for one of those cat tails. Found a vendor that actually put something to the effect: makes it easier to adjust the magnification on Vortex scopes which are usually very difficult to adjust. Got a chuckle from that.
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Unfortunately, Vortex's cat-tail "Switchview" lever doesn't fit on the 5-15x's. Here's direct from their website:
"The Switchview Throw Lever will not fit the HS 5-15x44 riflescope (available through Midway USA)."
I believe the 5-15x's are using the same magnification rings as the Crossfire Gen II's. Interestingly, I believe that's the only mention of the 5-15x's on Vortex's website.
Unfortunately, Vortex's cat-tail "Switchview" lever doesn't fit on the 5-15x's. Here's direct from their website:
"The Switchview Throw Lever will not fit the HS 5-15x44 riflescope (available through Midway USA)."
I believe the 5-15x's are using the same magnification rings as the Crossfire Gen II's. Interestingly, I believe that's the only mention of the 5-15x's on Vortex's website.
Re: Vortex Viper HS 5-15x44 Mil-Dot
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Temp9</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Unfortunately, Vortex's cat-tail "Switchview" lever doesn't fit on the 5-15x's. Here's direct from their website:
"The Switchview Throw Lever will not fit the HS 5-15x44 riflescope (available through Midway USA)."
I believe the 5-15x's are using the same magnification rings as the Crossfire Gen II's. Interestingly, I believe that's the only mention of the 5-15x's on Vortex's website. </div></div>
Thanks for that heads up. That would have been a bummer to order that and find out it wouldn't fit.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Temp9</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Unfortunately, Vortex's cat-tail "Switchview" lever doesn't fit on the 5-15x's. Here's direct from their website:
"The Switchview Throw Lever will not fit the HS 5-15x44 riflescope (available through Midway USA)."
I believe the 5-15x's are using the same magnification rings as the Crossfire Gen II's. Interestingly, I believe that's the only mention of the 5-15x's on Vortex's website. </div></div>
Thanks for that heads up. That would have been a bummer to order that and find out it wouldn't fit.
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For a cat tail or switchview, try a "Breakaway Coaster".
NC1 "Universal" Black Coaster Clips from Breakaway. They're used to secure a reel to a rod. Order them here. I use one on my Tac30 1-4x and MTAC 3.5-10x. Less than $20 for the pair (not sure if they're still sold as pairs).
The knob part turns to tighten them down. Once tight, use a sharp razor to cut the excess off.
Here's a (lousy) pic of the one on my 1-4x. You can see the knob right above the Burris logo on the ocular:
For a cat tail or switchview, try a "Breakaway Coaster".
NC1 "Universal" Black Coaster Clips from Breakaway. They're used to secure a reel to a rod. Order them here. I use one on my Tac30 1-4x and MTAC 3.5-10x. Less than $20 for the pair (not sure if they're still sold as pairs).
The knob part turns to tighten them down. Once tight, use a sharp razor to cut the excess off.
Here's a (lousy) pic of the one on my 1-4x. You can see the knob right above the Burris logo on the ocular:
Re: Vortex Viper HS 5-15x44 Mil-Dot
If your magnification ring is harder to turn than you would like it to be, we are more than happy to do what we can to loosen it up. Feel free to call our customer service at 800-426-0048 and we will get it taken care of.
We generally will have them on the stiffer side when they leave here for a couple of reason's, one is because they will generally loosen up a bit in the sun and after use, and two is to avoid accidental adjustments when you dont want them. The latter really only pertains to second focal plane scopes. That being said, I have not yet seen one these scopes with the extremely stiff mag ring so I cannot comment specifically to this yet.
Feel free to call us anytime if you have any questions or comments.
Best Regards
Scott
If your magnification ring is harder to turn than you would like it to be, we are more than happy to do what we can to loosen it up. Feel free to call our customer service at 800-426-0048 and we will get it taken care of.
We generally will have them on the stiffer side when they leave here for a couple of reason's, one is because they will generally loosen up a bit in the sun and after use, and two is to avoid accidental adjustments when you dont want them. The latter really only pertains to second focal plane scopes. That being said, I have not yet seen one these scopes with the extremely stiff mag ring so I cannot comment specifically to this yet.
Feel free to call us anytime if you have any questions or comments.
Best Regards
Scott
Re: Vortex Viper HS 5-15x44 Mil-Dot
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: strat81</div><div class="ubbcode-body">For a cat tail or switchview, try a "Breakaway Coaster".
NC1 "Universal" Black Coaster Clips from Breakaway. They're used to secure a reel to a rod. Order them here. I use one on my Tac30 1-4x and MTAC 3.5-10x. Less than $20 for the pair (not sure if they're still sold as pairs).
The knob part turns to tighten them down. Once tight, use a sharp razor to cut the excess off.
Here's a (lousy) pic of the one on my 1-4x. You can see the knob right above the Burris logo on the ocular:
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F'N A!... nice find....
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: strat81</div><div class="ubbcode-body">For a cat tail or switchview, try a "Breakaway Coaster".
NC1 "Universal" Black Coaster Clips from Breakaway. They're used to secure a reel to a rod. Order them here. I use one on my Tac30 1-4x and MTAC 3.5-10x. Less than $20 for the pair (not sure if they're still sold as pairs).
The knob part turns to tighten them down. Once tight, use a sharp razor to cut the excess off.
Here's a (lousy) pic of the one on my 1-4x. You can see the knob right above the Burris logo on the ocular:
F'N A!... nice find....
Re: Vortex Viper HS 5-15x44 Mil-Dot
Ok, I just read through the entire thread. I guess I got one of the first ones, and I'm quite happy with it.
My experience with Vortex Optics includes owning:
* Viper 6.5-20x44 Mildot (great scope for the money)
* Viper PST 2.5-10x44 MRAD (my favorite)
* Viper R/T 8x Mini Binos w/Mil reticle and range finder sils (the binos I have been looking for my whole life, but <span style="font-style: italic">knew</span> nobody would ever make, as the idea makes too much sense)
* Nomad Spotting scope (I use it to watch Jupiter's moons on clear nights, in addition to spotting.)
* Vortex Viper HS 4-16x44 Mildot Midway scope
I still don't see how they get it into this price point, and it can't be beat really for what it is and the features it has. I jumped on this when I saw it appear on Midway's site. Mine also didn't show up with any shims for the zero-stop, but I received a package without any input from me that had the shims later.
I do have a fairly stiff mag ring, but I keep it on either 10x or 15x.
For a scope that has zero-stop, the same PST turrets, matching turrets/reticle, side focus, and an overall solid quality construction, this is a great deal.
Jumping back and forth between NF and this at BoomerShoot this year, I didn't realize a whole ton of practical or striking differences.
If you're a working man or student on a budget, you get a lot of scope for your money with this. This Vortex Viper PST and HST product line has made it so that you either:
1) Spend very little on quality glass with all the features you need for long-range shooting, or
2) If money isn't the biggest factor for you, you can drop coin on $&B, U$O, or Hen$oldt. (The new Hensoldt is sick BTW.) Even still, if you have a lot of blasters that need glass, and you're made of dough, you can still top them all with quality Vortex glass with some of the best-feeling turrets on the market, at a fraction of the cost, and get the best customer service in the industry. I've personally dealt with warranty issues with S&B, and have friends with CS/warranty issues with NF, and that is the slow train for sure.
I've compared my Viper PST next to a Leupold Mk IV, and the Leupold glass was clearly brighter, clearer, crisp, but the turrets felt like mush. I just don't deal well with mushy turrets and click values that feel like they're slipping. If we could have the Mk IV or HD glass in a Viper PST, with more elevation travel, there would be less demand for the other companies, even for those with deep pockets.
I'll have to take some reticle pics next time I go out with my .260 Rem and Grendel, to show comparisons between the Viper PST 2.5-10x44 and Viper HS Tactical.
Ok, I just read through the entire thread. I guess I got one of the first ones, and I'm quite happy with it.
My experience with Vortex Optics includes owning:
* Viper 6.5-20x44 Mildot (great scope for the money)
* Viper PST 2.5-10x44 MRAD (my favorite)
* Viper R/T 8x Mini Binos w/Mil reticle and range finder sils (the binos I have been looking for my whole life, but <span style="font-style: italic">knew</span> nobody would ever make, as the idea makes too much sense)
* Nomad Spotting scope (I use it to watch Jupiter's moons on clear nights, in addition to spotting.)
* Vortex Viper HS 4-16x44 Mildot Midway scope
I still don't see how they get it into this price point, and it can't be beat really for what it is and the features it has. I jumped on this when I saw it appear on Midway's site. Mine also didn't show up with any shims for the zero-stop, but I received a package without any input from me that had the shims later.
I do have a fairly stiff mag ring, but I keep it on either 10x or 15x.
For a scope that has zero-stop, the same PST turrets, matching turrets/reticle, side focus, and an overall solid quality construction, this is a great deal.
Jumping back and forth between NF and this at BoomerShoot this year, I didn't realize a whole ton of practical or striking differences.
If you're a working man or student on a budget, you get a lot of scope for your money with this. This Vortex Viper PST and HST product line has made it so that you either:
1) Spend very little on quality glass with all the features you need for long-range shooting, or
2) If money isn't the biggest factor for you, you can drop coin on $&B, U$O, or Hen$oldt. (The new Hensoldt is sick BTW.) Even still, if you have a lot of blasters that need glass, and you're made of dough, you can still top them all with quality Vortex glass with some of the best-feeling turrets on the market, at a fraction of the cost, and get the best customer service in the industry. I've personally dealt with warranty issues with S&B, and have friends with CS/warranty issues with NF, and that is the slow train for sure.
I've compared my Viper PST next to a Leupold Mk IV, and the Leupold glass was clearly brighter, clearer, crisp, but the turrets felt like mush. I just don't deal well with mushy turrets and click values that feel like they're slipping. If we could have the Mk IV or HD glass in a Viper PST, with more elevation travel, there would be less demand for the other companies, even for those with deep pockets.
I'll have to take some reticle pics next time I go out with my .260 Rem and Grendel, to show comparisons between the Viper PST 2.5-10x44 and Viper HS Tactical.
