Voting in the future

[Flyinghunter]

I was raised to be deeply respectful of the voting process and if you didn't vote you didn't "get a say". It appears the people who hate freedom have voting as rigged as a Las Vegas casino. So, I'm conflicted as to whether voting in the future will have any value or will it be a farce like our media?

 

[netranger6]

Fuck a vote. Organize and resist now. Free speech is over.

 

[darkfader]

Our votes do not matter. At all.

 

[candyx]

When dead people are voting it makes the system look like a two bit carnival game, but if you enjoy playing game what the hell its just entertainment anyway nowadays.

 

[P-Squared]

I say we do two things. 1) Keep voting, especially at the local and state level, 2) Become an activist and get after theses elected fu@$ and let them know if they don't pass legislation to clean up this shit and have verified voting and IDs, then we are going to vote them out and organize to have them recalled.

If there are really 75 million of us (and more) then we need to learn how to be gorilla voters. (no that doesn't mean wearing ghilli suits to the voting precincts)

 

[Maser]

This was not an election for the people controlled by the people that so many electoral college supporters think. This was an election stolen from the people by the media for the media. Period! In the future of voting, you might as well use the ballots to wipe your ass because then it will be somewhat useful at least.

 

[7.62willdo]

“If voting mattered they wouldn’t let us do it”

 

[308220]

We all see voting doesnt work. And never will from here on out. Guaranteed. Why keep doing the same shit and expecting a different result?

Its time for real action. Maybe some, ya know, peaceful protests. July sounds like a good month..at least itll be warm.

 

[candyx]

We all see voting doesnt work. And never will from here on out. Guaranteed. Why keep doing the same shit and expecting a different result?

Its time for real action. Maybe some, ya know, peaceful protests. July sounds like a good month..at least itll be warm.

You don't have to be as intelligent as Albert to understand his simple explanation

 

[Maggot]

We all see voting doesnt work. And never will from here on out. Guaranteed. Why keep doing the same shit and expecting a different result?

Its time for real action. Maybe some, ya know, peaceful protests. July sounds like a good month..at least itll be warm.

My kinda thinking. Go scuba diving after the protest.

 

[Greg Langelius *]

We all see voting doesn]t work. And never will from here on out. Guaranteed. Why keep doing the same shit and expecting a different result?

Its time for real action. Maybe some, ya know, peaceful protests. July sounds like a good month..at least it'll be warm.

July? Too late... COG will already be in place. COGCON3 testing was completed over this past Summer.

The agenda is already being codified in Congress. The bills will all get signed on 1/21 or very near that. Whatever wasn't sorted out in Congress will be enacted as executive orders by the end of this month. What did you think Biden was doing down there in that basement; reading comic books?

Greg

 

[candyx]

I thought the Trump Rally was to happen on the 20th , a sea of waving Trump Flags and when Biden spoke the response from the crowd.....

 

[Maggot]

July? Too late... COG will already be in place. COGCON3 testing was completed over this past Summer.

The agenda is already being codified in Congress. The bills will all get signed on 1/21 or very near that. Whatever wasn't sorted out in Congress will be enacted as executive orders by the end of this month. What did you think Biden was doing down there in that basement; reading comic books?

Greg

Masturbating while he touched children?

 

[acudaowner]

they cheated and stole a presidential election and no one wanted to even look at the evidence they can take a flying leap I'll ever waist 5 hours standing in a like ever again to cast a vote they could change at someone else's now they know they can pull it off does anyone really thing anything will change for the better . It will end up a one party shit show soon enough not that the other so called party has more than a grunt of fight left in them .

 

[shoot4fun]

Has there ever been a viable third party in America? Has their ever been a viable third party candidate?
Obviously it is truly time for there to be an exodus on GOP supporters to a strong, principled third party that really does believe in what the Constitution protects and that public service really is just that. It is not for personal gain and/or stardom.
I am afraid that this debacle of an election cycle has driven the last nail in the choice between conservative and liberal. We will only have a vote for the degree of liberal we want in power (such as the vote will have any meaning).

 

[deersniper]

Has there ever been a viable third party in America? Has their ever been a viable third party candidate?
Obviously it is truly time for there to be an exodus on GOP supporters to a strong, principled third party that really does believe in what the Constitution protects and that public service really is just that. It is not for personal gain and/or stardom.
I am afraid that this debacle of an election cycle has driven the last nail in the choice between conservative and liberal. We will only have a vote for the degree of liberal we want in power (such as the vote will have any meaning).

Yeah it was called the Tea Party. Then McCain, Obozo, and the republicans and democrats used the weapons of the state like the IRS to bludgeon it to death.

They killed the tea party. Killed trump figuratively. Those 2 were the American people having a peaceful Revolution against the organized crime oligarchy.

 

[deersniper]

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You can’t say that kind of stuff here anymore. Please delete

 

[Doc68]

The ballot box is gone......

We all know what's left.

NOT INCITING VIOLENCE

Doc

 

[Flyinghunter]

 

[W54/XM-388]

We'll probably always have elections, they may eventually become as much of a farce as they were in the Soviet Union where you had to go vote, and of course there was only one candidate to vote for, but you got a free glass of Vodka for voting, so everybody voted.

 

[Steel head]

Our votes do not matter. At all.

This was proven last November.
The majority of politicians looked the other way.
The vast majority of courts refused to look at evidence.
The governors and SOS hid and downplayed evidence and blocked local legislators from being able to do anything about it.

 

[MadDuner]

Voting is a passification charade that lets the peons pretend they have any say in what Happens behind closed doors. Knowing it’s a charade and speaking up is about the same as a a dog chasing a freight train and barking the whole time and thinking he’s having some effect. Unless that dog can bite the engineer in control of the train, he’s just kidding himself.

 

[BullGear]

The act of voting.
I believe the next 2 years will determine the future of voting and our country. If we can keep the Socialist at bay, we may be able to turn Congress. It will depend on how active they are with their agenda. If they go for the fences, then we've got em. If they eat the elephant, one bite at a time all is lost.

The politics of voting.
I believe that we will never have a meaningful election until we have voter ID at every polling place. This year taught the Demwits that they can get away with a lot. Much more than the Republicans would have ever guessed.

There's so much more to your question that a book could be written and it have multiple volumes to just touch on the answers.

 

[Steel+Killer]

Unless the laws are changed in in all fifty states and its voting in person with a ID I will never waste my time voting again for any presidential election.

 

[eklarsen]

Think about the end goal of people trying to manipulate elections... wouldn't making patriots decide not to vote be right up there as a desired end state. As the Democrats say, vote early, vote often.

 

[BullGear]

Unless the laws are changed in in all fifty states and its voting in person with a ID I will never waste my time voting again for any presidential election.

Yep, that'll show them. Take you vote and flush it down the toilet. That's exactly what they want. In my opinnion, that what they got in the runoff in Georgia. Along with a little help from their friends.

 

[alpine44]

FYI:

How China-Backed American Communists Use Minority Groups to Flip States to Blue

The Chinese have communist networks in America who are US citizens but owe their loyalty to China. They register hundreds of thousands of minorities targeting them in door-to-door voter registration drives, and then they get them to the polls on election day.

needtoknow.news

Whether or not the money comes from China or Soros, that's how they get 90% of the job done. Note the reference to Virginia!
Fraud alone would not be able to push them over the finish line if they had not run the ground game leading up to it. We have to face the really that about 1/2 of the voters really believe that a Socialist and ultimately totalitarian government would be better for them. Do you think that the cheers on Twatter for villainizing Trump supporters and stripping away their rights, employment or business come from dead people?

 

[Steel+Killer]

Take you vote and flush it down the toilet.

They did that for me this year and unless we get back to in person voting with ID on the day of the election that's what we will be doing from here on out. We can pretend our vote will mean something, but in reality that is all we will be doing is "pretending". I use to love to play pretend when I was a kid, but now that I am an adult I live in the real world. If you want to play "pretend like my vote matters" every four years knock yourself out.

 

[darkfader]

I don’t foresee me voting ever again unless like most have said, serious reform including ID and strict verification. But, I won’t holdout hope to see any of that in my lifetime. Feels like a waste of time. Our own military oversaw elections overseas that were far more secure than any elections here on our own soil. Of course voter ID is racist so that’s out of the question. I’m more angry and cynical by the day. I’m sure I’m not alone.

 

[BullGear]

They did that for me this year and unless we get back to in person voting with ID on the day of the election that's what we will be doing from here on out. We can pretend our vote will mean something, but in reality that is all we will be doing is "pretending". I use to love to play pretend when I was a kid, but now that I am an adult I live in the real world. If you want to play "pretend like my vote matters" every four years knock yourself out.

I live in Maryland and still vote ever year there's an election. Like most, if you don't look, there's nothing to report. Look closer and you may see a steady rise for Red votes. Some states, that will never happen, but without everyone voting, things will never change. Sit at home and there's no way you can be on the winning side. 2016 happened when NO BODY said it would. By your standards, 2016 would have never happened and we would have never experienced one of the greatest presidents the country has ever seen.

 

[Steel+Killer]

I live in Maryland and still vote ever year there's an election. Like most, if you don't look, there's nothing to report. Look closer and you may see a steady rise for Red votes. Some states, that will never happen, but without everyone voting, things will never change. Sit at home and there's no way you can be on the winning side. 2016 happened when NO BODY said it would. By your standards, 2016 would have never happened and we would have never experienced one of the greatest presidents the country has ever seen.

Trump won in 2016 because the Democrats didn't think they needed to steal the election they misjudged Trump's popularity and they thought Hildabeast had it sewn up. They weren't going to make that mistake again, but believe me had they known they would have stolen it in 2016 as well.

 

[alpine44]

Trump won in 2016 because the Democrats didn't think they needed to steal the election they misjudged Trump's popularity and they thought Hilldabaest had it sewn up. They weren't going to make that mistake again, but believe me had they known they would have stolen it in 2016 as well.

Don't even consider quitting before you are certain that you have put in the same "boots on the ground" effort as other side musters.

Vote for "your" school board
vote for "your" town and county boards
vote for "your" majors, governors, representatives, senators
vote out the RINOs in the primaries
and don't forget to vote for trustworthy officials overseeing elections

If you abstain, the other side and the dead will win by default.
We are loosing because we are sitting on our asses AND we hope that some lazy-ass RINOs are going to save the day AND because there is fraud on top of it.

 

[Steel+Killer]

Vote for "your" school board
vote for "your" town and county boards
vote for "your" majors, governors, representatives, senators
vote out the RINOs in the primaries
and don't forget to vote for trustworthy officials overseeing elections

Agree 100% on those, but I am not wasting my time on the presidential election when they can and will just print as many votes as they need to cancel mine out.....When they change the election laws I will start voting again or I will just write in "Mickey Mouse" for president just to show them I am not partaking in there scheme anymore.

 

[Doc68]

When I was in Iraq, I oversaw voting places. They got purple dye on the finger after they voted. So why is we can insist this in other countries but not our own
......

Doc

 

[deersniper]

Voting is a passification charade that lets the peons pretend they have any say in what Happens behind closed doors. Knowing it’s a charade and speaking up is about the same as a a dog chasing a freight train and barking the whole time and thinking he’s having some effect. Unless that dog can bite the engineer in control of the train, he’s just kidding himself.

 

[Doc68]

Don't even consider quitting before you are certain that you have put in the same "boots on the ground" effort as other side musters.

Vote for "your" school board
vote for "your" town and county boards
vote for "your" majors, governors, representatives, senators
vote out the RINOs in the primaries
and don't forget to vote for trustworthy officials overseeing elections

If you abstain, the other side and the dead will win by default.
We are loosing because we are sitting on our asses AND we hope that some lazy-ass RINOs are going to save the day AND because there is fraud on top of it.

Did you not see the election that just happened......75 million americans voted for trump. The enemy put in 80 million votes for their guy......so tell me, what exactly did my vote do......

Doc

 

[alpine44]

Did you not see the election that just happened......75 million americans voted for trump. The enemy put in 80 million votes for their guy......so tell me, what exactly did my vote do......

Doc

Depending on the state you live in, votes like yours prevented the down-ballot disaster the Left was banking on.

We have to do MORE than vote, not less.

Killary's defeat made the extreme Left mad as you are now. But unlike some of us they did not bitch and sulk but got their act together. This is how we got AOC and other walking nightmares:


Similarly, we have to primary out the limp ducks and RINOs from the GOP in favor of candidates who represent us, the People.

At third, independent party is suicide. The complete power grab via the Georgia runoffs was only feasiable because an independent candidate syphoned off votes against the Socialists in November. Without that, China Joe would be a lame duck.

Don't be just mad, get even.

 

[EddieNFL]

What did you think Biden was doing down there in that basement; reading comic books?

Greg

Deciding between vanilla or banana pudding. Anything that will happen is decided by those in power...and Joe ain't one of 'em.

 

[alpine44]

One more thing. To me, the unexpected election of Trump and the equally unexpected vote for Brexit are symptoms of People being fed up with out of control governments.

If that's the case, then our momentum should increase after they finally got our leader. The central tenet of our cause is that we the People are above those who we choose to represent us. Our resolve needs to increase after our "King" got assassinated - figuratively speaking.

On a positive note, the porculus bill and last week showed us which swamp dwellers we need to replace ASAP. Like tomorrow.

Let's stop this circus of GOP vs DEMS. This fight is about the establishment vs the People.

Unfortunately, many of the People eagerly lick the boots of the power grabbing establishment for the false promises of handouts and an easier life. But that was no different in the past and did not stop the birth of this Nation.

 

[Vodoun daVinci]

My opinion is that our Election s are being stolen/rigged at the Primaries....both Red and Blue Franchises "appoint" their respective Presidential Candidates and assign you a Candidate regardless of votes. We get a choice of one candidate for the Blue Franchise that works for The Oligarchy (and pays them handsomely for the nomination) or another candidate from the Red Franchise who has been appointed by how much Oligarchy cash he filtered into the pockets of the Franchise owners.

Vote how ya want (but vote!) but we need to hold the Franchises accountable for the Candidates they put up for US to choose between.

If this is the best we have for Leadership we are doomed. Odd how the only Candidates we get a choice of are all filthy rich. Coincidence?

VooDoo

 

[alpine44]

My opinion is that our Election s are being stolen/rigged at the Primaries....both Red and Blue Franchises "appoint" their respective Presidential Candidates and assign you a Candidate regardless of votes. We get a choice of one candidate for the Blue Franchise that works for The Oligarchy (and pays them handsomely for the nomination) or another candidate from the Red Franchise who has been appointed by how much Oligarchy cash he filtered into the pockets of the Franchise owners.

Vote how ya want (but vote!) but we need to hold the Franchises accountable for the Candidates they put up for US to choose between.

If this is the best we have for Leadership we are doomed. Odd how the only Candidates we get a choice of are all filthy rich. Coincidence?

VooDoo

^^^^^This is what I was talking about above^^^^^

I helped -on a very low level- to get Madison Cawthorn

https://www.npr.org/2020/06/24/8827...esident-trumps-pick-in-n-c-republican-primary

in Congress against a well heeled RINO.

It can be done and needs to be done. Let's get to it. No more ducking limp duck RINOS. (I ducking hate autocorrect)

 

[jerryrva]

Pelosi is pushing for National Election Rules. Looks like with the upcoming Congress it will happen. She wants to eliminate voting list maintenance such as checking Post Office database for change of address, and cross state voter registrations.

 

[adubeau]

Nope, never voting again...

 

[308220]

STOP voting! Let dems take over everything. That way there isnt any political finger pointing from politicians when shit isnt working.

People will know the source of the stench.

 

[alpine44]

Nope, never voting again...

Please tell us why we should listen to a troll from the Left who showed up here in December of 2019?

Because you are afraid that cheating might not be enough after People have witnessed the Socialists' train wreck for two years?

 

[alpine44]

STOP voting! Let dems take over everything. That way there isnt any political finger pointing from politicians when shit isnt working.

People will know the source of the stench.

I don't think that the Left needs any help turning this into a one party country.

 

[adubeau]

Please tell us why we should listen to a troll from the Left who showed up here in December of 2019?

Because you are afraid that cheating might not be enough after People have witnessed the Socialists' train wreck for two years?

Who the fuck are you? I don't have to explain shit to you or anyone else on this forum.

 

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Who the fuck are you? I don't have to explain shit to you or anyone else on this forum.

You do if you want anyone to take you seriously

 

[BullGear]

Who the fuck are you? I don't have to explain shit to you or anyone else on this forum.

So in your daily life, you can say what you want and not have to explain the words that you speak? You're either a VERY rich person or a person of extreme power. I know of very few people who do not have to back up their words with facts.

I guess you can tell your boss anything you want and not have facts to back it up?

I guess you tell your significant other anything without backing it up with facts?

I bet you can even tell a judge anything you want without backing it up with facts?

Come on man, this forum is part of the real world. Just because you can hide behind your monitor doesn't make it just as real.

 

[BLEE]

The election was rife with fraud. The left spared no expense and spared no trick, to steal the election. The fact that they stole the election disturbs me much less that the fact that all three branches of the federal government CHOSE to do nothing about it. The government didn't fail. People failed. Our system works, when you follow the rules and laws. What disturbs me the most is that our elected and appointed CHOSE to this election to be stolen. The question is, are WE THE PEOPLE going to CHOOSE to do nothing about it? I certainly don't have the answer.
My attention span is diminished these days, because I can't stop thinking about what the peaceful, constructive solution could be. I can't find it. I was a history major, until my junior year and I continue to study history, to this day. History tells us that we have a couple of possible futures. One could be civil war, but I can't see that happening, unless the military splits. Who knows how that would turn out, but the destruction would be horrific, beyond comprehension. The other, could be that we accept that we will become a puppet state of China (likely), with pockets of dissent.
The vise of tyranny will slowly, incrementally be tightened, until we are a model of what China has become, today. I don't see a peaceful solution, because the left has boldly stolen what they've wanted for nearly 60 years. Figuratively, its like a bully taking your lunch money. There's no way to remedy the problem, without balling up a fist and ramming it, as hard as possible, into the bully's nose, kicking him in the ribs, and keep pounding until you're pulled off. Then take the money back. I'm not sure how to do that, peacefully. World history gives us an answer. Our forefathers gave us the answer. We'll either do what needs to be done, or we will live in tyranny. We must continue to vote, while fighting for freedom, in our republic.