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Vudoo empty chamber indicator - looking for advice on which one
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Hoz and Shield works fine. Haven’t had issues and satisfies the requirement of having something in the chamber.
I use these guys:
UTG Chamber Flag
For my Vudoo I trim down the tip so it's not going past the chamber when inserted, and I drill a hole through the thin web and attach a shock cord loop to secure to the bolt handle. I'll shoot a picture tonight, have to clean the rifle for a match this weekend.
UTG Chamber Flag
For my Vudoo I trim down the tip so it's not going past the chamber when inserted, and I drill a hole through the thin web and attach a shock cord loop to secure to the bolt handle. I'll shoot a picture tonight, have to clean the rifle for a match this weekend.
I just ordered two left hand ECI from Precision Match Gear (the gentleman who makes the precision match timer iOS watch app). They’re supposed to get here today and I’ll try to follow up with my impressions. I got them in case I can’t use my mag block at NRL22 nats - locally we’ve been okay with blocks for NRL22 and PRS22 so far.
Locally my club is the same, which is prob why they updated the rules about mag blocks. I’ve yet to shoot at a club that didn’t allow one, but if I did I’d probably grab a zip tie and hang about a yard of pink flagging from it. And then probably not go back.
Joe Loehle is a great dude and makes great products to solve shooter issues.
FWIW I am and have been using the l3i blocks that I got from an and j sporting as I recall back in 22. It’s familiar, I like them and think they work just fine.
One of the clubs I shoot at require’s the plug must go in the chamber so the mag block style is out.
I am a keep it simple guy, and use those cheap plastic ones that often are included with new guns, or a simple length of weed wicker cord attached to a key chain
I am a keep it simple guy, and use those cheap plastic ones that often are included with new guns, or a simple length of weed wicker cord attached to a key chain
Piece of day-glow weed eater/string trimmer line. Gently heat just behind a chamber length section of it, bend that over 90 degrees, and cut tail to preferred length.
It seems well made. It’s taking me some getting used to over the simplicity and positivity of the L3i Mag Block I’ve gotten so accustomed to. I’d maybe have liked the magnet to be a bit stronger. I’ll keep using it for a while and see what I think. I’m sure it’ll be a good option for when I’m not allowed to use a block.
If you want something in the chamber, magnetic ones like the Hoz and Shield are the way to go. They stay put. Here’s a quick video I made.
I use these on my begara 22 and centerfire rifles, you can use the 22 version in a centerfire but not the other way around. https://www.yow-tech.com/product-page/mag-flag-vudoo-v-22-aics
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If someone has a 3d Printer here is an stl file of a Chamber Block I made. It fits my RimX in a Manners Mini Chassis perfect. I would expect it should fit others as well. I make mine out of PETG.
The MD’s both use my mag blocks, so I can’t imagine they won’t be allowed.
Here’s the one I make for rimfire AICS pattern guns:
22LR AICS Mag Block Chamber Flag - Bergara B14R, Vudoo V22 & RimX | eBay
Safely hold your bolt open for ranges and matches that require mag blocks / chamber flags, without putting plastic into your barrel. Perfect for NRL22 & NRL22X and the growing rimfire precision matches!
www.ebay.com
Have one of these. Works great.
For those of you that have ranges that require jamming a foreign object in your chamber, I encourage you to petition and fight to just block the bolt.
I've seen 2 chamber flags leave chunks in the chamber that caused issues now. So if I happen to only have a flag it just gets dropped through the mag-well.
PRS rules specifically require that the ECI enter the chamber. Of course, local MDs can do what they want, but I’m not showing up to anything above club level with anything questionable.
Once again, I'm reminded why the prs is dumb.
Foreign objects don't belong where they can get jammed in front of a bullet and obstruct the barrel.
We've all seen dumb stuff happen, this is them trying to avoid a lawsuit but will cause them one when they have a kaboom because of their required method of "safety".
The problem is people use cheap home made solutions and that is how things get in the chamber. I have used in chamber flags in centerfire for years for 21 years and also in rimfire matches the past 8 years and never had an issue with anything in the chamber. If you use something like I posted above in the RCI magnetic chamber indicator for $12.99 you can have something to make sure a round isn't in the chamber and it will not leave anything in the chamber.
Universal 22LR E.C.I. Magnetic Chamber Flag v2 — River City Innovations LLC
A empty chamber indicator that utilizes a internal magnet to stay inside your chamber. Made for 22LR rifles.
www.rcinnovationsva.com
I used these
www.shortactionprecision.com
SAP Chamber Plug - Rimfire Empty Chamber Indicator - Short Action Precision
For rifle matches that require them, or for times that you want to display a heightened level of safety by blocking the bolt and plugging the chamber with this plastic empty chamber indicator. SAP Branded chamber plugs with logo on both side. Rimfire model features a high powered magnet, that...
The newer magnetic printed ECI have shorts nubs that should not touch the chamber wall. They are smaller and pretty stout. I’ve never shot my rifle long enough to even get it hot. If you’re breaking shit off or scratching your chamber you have bigger issues at hand.
Team,
We have a lot of good options. ECIs are as old as the hills. While I like (and used) mag blocks, something that at least goes into the chamber “some amount “ is a true ECI…a flag is not.
The SAP ECI is a great option for a whopping $13. I do not love sticking 3” of flag in my 22 bore.
Of note;
- 2 years ago a very experienced shooter cooked off a centerfire round in the parking lot after pulling a block and dropping the hammer…luckily no injuries.
- 2 weeks ago I was helping run a stage (22 match) while on a squad. As the shooter was loading and making ready, when he pulled his block there was a live round in the chamber.
Sure both 100% on the shooter. But I think an ECI is better at breaking a mishap chain than a mag block.
My 0.02.
ZY
We have a lot of good options. ECIs are as old as the hills. While I like (and used) mag blocks, something that at least goes into the chamber “some amount “ is a true ECI…a flag is not.
The SAP ECI is a great option for a whopping $13. I do not love sticking 3” of flag in my 22 bore.
Of note;
- 2 years ago a very experienced shooter cooked off a centerfire round in the parking lot after pulling a block and dropping the hammer…luckily no injuries.
- 2 weeks ago I was helping run a stage (22 match) while on a squad. As the shooter was loading and making ready, when he pulled his block there was a live round in the chamber.
Sure both 100% on the shooter. But I think an ECI is better at breaking a mishap chain than a mag block.
My 0.02.
ZY
Bullshit
ECIs that enter the chamber have been required in NRA rifle sports including smallbore prone and three position for over 25 years without a problem.
Go make up some other imaginary safety "incident."
Exactly, they have these rules for a reason, you may choose to ignore the precautions in your backyard, but any event that ignores these will lose their insurance coverage. They would also lose the endorsement/sponsorship as no one will want to be in any way associated with an event where someone gets shot.
Apparently we got the only bad bag of chamber flags from CMP?
Mag blocks still keep the bolt open and nothing can enter the chamber.
The problem isn’t something entering the chamber but something remaining in there after a stage.
This right here. Have seen more than once someone time out on a stage in rim fire prs and the cartridge doesn't eject. You know immediately with an eci, not so much with a mag block.
It's incumbent on YOU to make sure ALL your gear is squared away.
You've already been corrected on why those idiotic mag blocks are not allowed by many sports. Because they don't fucking work.
Mag blocks render the gun inoperative, and don’t fall out.
The amount of times I’ve been swept by someone picking their chamber flag up when it fell out between stages makes me angry.
The amount of times I’ve been swept by someone picking their chamber flag up when it fell out between stages makes me angry.
