Vudoo Gun Works V-22 Rimfire Bolt Action
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The others are this target frame I made and LED light out in the orchard. Optic is a Trijicon 5-50x56 Accupower using the green reticle illumination for contrast. The first three groups were shot using 40x magnification, the last two using 22.5x..... Learning experience.
You're killing me Smalls. ?Who was shooting it?
I remeasured the group in the cardboard backer this morning..... ?
This rimfire stuff is very similar to golf..... both create serious levels of focus and micro management, scoring going forward is compared in your mind against your personal bests with weather conditions factored. It's very easy to obsessively practice bad habits over and over and expect different results. You need good equipment, but more often than not it comes down to the Indian not the arrow.
The Vudoo V-22's build quality and accuracy potential with good lots of ammo totally justifies high quality optics. It's definitely a major paradigm shift from my first scope on my 10/22 in 1974.
When shooting 100/200 yd bench matches the 5-50 doubles as a spotting scope. Though last night pretty much convinced me I've been using too much magnification.
Just got my Vudoo ammo box. Its pretty fucking awesome! Love it.
Those ammo cases look awesome! I would love to buy one right now but I still need to invest in a few more magazines. I really want two of the new 10 round aluminum ones and one five rounder. After those are acquired, I can definitely see one of these in my future. The last time I was at the range, I forgot to zip one of the pockets on my drag bag and had about 4 boxes of SK fall 5 feet to their (almost) demise. It luckily only damaged a few of them, but still..
This is my 3D printed ammo box for 10/22, need to craft one for the Vudoo still.
Littlepod, did you 3d print that, if so, that's awesome!
The Vudoo Padom posted look top notch!
Although not an article on the Vudoo V-22, I believe you all will find the beginning of the article interesting and I’m humbled by the observation and recognition.
MB
RECOIL Review: Bergara's New B14-R Rimfire Trainer in 22LR
Read: RECOIL Review: Bergara's New B14-R Rimfire Trainer in 22LR from Rob Curtis on March 26, 2020 for Recoil.
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MB
Technically you should be humbled. You've resurrected the true joy many of us enthusiastically experienced as kids years ago and will never forget.
Now get busy improving the consistency of the ammunition that your design has exposed.
Sorry, couldn't resist.
Although not an article on the Vudoo V-22, I believe you all will find the beginning of the article interesting and I’m humbled by the observation and recognition.
RECOIL Review: Bergara's New B14-R Rimfire Trainer in 22LR
Read: RECOIL Review: Bergara's New B14-R Rimfire Trainer in 22LR from Rob Curtis on March 26, 2020 for Recoil.www.recoilweb.com
MB
It is a very accurate and well deserved compliment.
The little plastic case that Burris xtr rings come on holes 3 boxes perfectly. If you happen to have those laying around
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5 and 15 round capacity is a huge one. Others are the weight for drop free ability for some rifles. Nothing wrong with the original mags as I still run them but to get a factory 15 round will be great and not having to worry about adding extensions on the 10 rounders.
My new Manners PRS2 just arrived last week. It's fitted with Surgeon bottom metal, a Timney Calvin Elite, Seekins rings, AAC Element2 suppressor, and a Nightforce NX8. I've pillar bedded it with the Surgeon pillars for now. I want to add one of the new Area 419 Arca rails with the weights to help it balance better as soon as I am able to afford it.
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Hear! Hear!Although not an article on the Vudoo V-22, I believe you all will find the beginning of the article interesting and I’m humbled by the observation and recognition.
RECOIL Review: Bergara's New B14-R Rimfire Trainer in 22LR
Read: RECOIL Review: Bergara's New B14-R Rimfire Trainer in 22LR from Rob Curtis on March 26, 2020 for Recoil.www.recoilweb.com
MB
The way they are now works just fine. People get way to wrapped up in bolt throw in centerfire too. You practice with either and you will be plenty fast and smooth enough.
Do you think Mile High may be having a sale due to the decrease in sales due to the current situation we're experiencing? ?
I certainly agree with you on the fact that it's not really that big of a deal. However for me at least it's about the small gains. After controlling the ammo situation as best as you can and having a very good grasp on the proper mechanics the next place to look is on repeatability. One excellence place to look for improving repeatability shot to shot to shot is by minimizing the amount of movement between shots. Which is where bolt lift, bolt throw, trigger and grip placement become important. This isn't just anecdotal, it's one of the main driving forces behind innovation in many precision shooting disciplines. For me it's most apparent in the Olympic or ISSF smallbore rifle game. This isn't meant to be argumentive simply my reason for shooting what I shoot, food for thought...
Everyone is different and I am sure some like 60 degree but it won't make them shoot any better. Practice does. I get your points but I do not agree that the small difference in bolt throw will make someone a better shooter or more accurate.
I go between 60 and 90 on centerfire rigs. If you manipulate the bolt properly, the sights don’t move on either anymore than the other and I cannot tell a difference in time.
The only time I can tell the difference is if something causes heavy primary extraction issues. The already heavier lift on a 60 deg stacks on the extraction. This is a problem one shouldn’t have and shouldn’t be taken into account when choosing bolt throw
I can see how something like Olympic or Across the course shooting may benefit from throw and lift. But nothing most of us here shoot.
It’s just a matter of personal preference. That being said, I would buy a vudoo 60deg repeater the day it released if one ever does. But I won’t get rid of my 90.
The only time I can tell the difference is if something causes heavy primary extraction issues. The already heavier lift on a 60 deg stacks on the extraction. This is a problem one shouldn’t have and shouldn’t be taken into account when choosing bolt throw
I can see how something like Olympic or Across the course shooting may benefit from throw and lift. But nothing most of us here shoot.
It’s just a matter of personal preference. That being said, I would buy a vudoo 60deg repeater the day it released if one ever does. But I won’t get rid of my 90.
I wouldn't. None of my centerfire rifles are 60 degree and I like the Vudoo feel now.
You're correct, and normally I wouldn't, but with Ripoff and Duplicate running rampant, along with all the tall, empty claims being made by the hangers-on, I have a few surprises on the horizon.
MB
I love surprises. I have a Bix TacSport PRO here waiting on something to put it in. I have thought about, studied for a few months on what high end rifle will be added next. I believe the top three, Vudoo, RimX and the Deuce will all be accurate, but the deciding factor for me is the service Vudoo gives their customers. You can't argue with success and MB and the Vudoo team have it. There's not to many people in the world I'd go out of my way to shake hands with but President Trump and Mike Bush are my top two.
I would imagine that is very true because my 90° bolt on my B-14R is smooth as glass. IMO the main reason a person should get either is if they were replicating their centerfire rifle. If a person didn't have a CF rifle I wouldn't be able to understand why someone would want a high lift bolt throw over a lower one.
I usually don't shoot groups much anymore. Here's a 10 shot group I shot a few days ago. the pic is positioned sideways so the group in reality was horizontal. If it wasn't for that one....oh man. This is very representative of what my vudoo will do. It is not a fluke group
Given that shot to shot repeatability is of ultimate importance, I would think a semi-automatic would be top of the heap. Mount-aim-fire-aim-fire-aim-fire....Perhaps the tradeoff is superior inherent accuracy of a bolt action versus semi-automatic. However, could an automatic be made much more accurate by thinking outside the box?
Hell of a group for 10 shots at 100 yds. I hope mine will shoot that well
I think like Rob said, people worry about bolt throw way too much. If you spend the time behind whatever you have you will get good at running it. I have seen a lot of guys who get used to 60 degree bolts or learn on 60 degree bolts try to manipulate a 90 degree bolt the same way with bad results. I watched a friend of mine who has been shooting a rifle with a 60 degree throw keep smacking his buckles on my scope over and over because he didn’t know how to properly run the bolt. You can’t grab the bolt like a door knob and run it. That just does work at least if you have optics on the rifle.
What barrel profile do you have? That's some nice shooting! Very nice! Thanks for sharing.
The only rifles I own with 60* bolt throw are several BAT 3L single shot prone & BR rifles, and three CZ457s. Since the BATs are single shots, the only time quick bolt manipulation is important is when shooting 5-shot strings during light gun 600-1000yd BR matches. You're trying your best to get those five shots all off in one condition at 1000 - and unless you're an absolute wizard at making wind changes, that's the only way you're going to be competitive. I've enjoyed playing, plinking, and upgrading my 457s, but have yet to shoot one in a PRS or NRL22 style match. I'm pretty sure my 457 MTR with its Shilen ratchet rifled bbl in a Manners VPT stock would be competitive in these matches, but since I have a couple of hvy bbl'd V22s in PRS1T stocks, what's the point? For all I know, the shorter bolt lift on the 457 would screw me up during a stage with tight time limits - I'd been shooting my 40X repeater for over a year in matches before getting the 1st V22 up & running. And it's still going to be much easier to perform a quick mag change with the V22 than with a 457.
Any reasons or just your hypothesis? My hypothesis is they could but I do not know if they could without feeding and extraction issues? Given traditional lead bullets perhaps semi-auto loading is more likely to deform them in a non-consistent manner than a bolt action repeater? If that is the main reason for accuracy degradation in a semi-auto, a less malleable bullet metal could be a game changer? Could copper bullets level the playing field?
Rick, until someone makes a true STRIKER fired match grade semi auto, a semi can NEVER compete because of the slow lock time dictated by the hammer fall.
You have to hold a semi PERFECTLY still for 4 times longer AFTER the trigger is pulled than a true striker fired bolt gun....and it's impossible without a mechanical rest.
Even the Boogera and other bolt guns (Ruger 77/22, etc.) with a multi piece firing pin cannot compete, over the long haul, with a true striker fired bolt gun.
Sorry, it's simple physics.
But bolt throw is 0 degrees so it should shoot the bestest!!! LOL
I know your being sarcastic and I appreciate that, but bolt throw has nothing to do with the accuracy of a rifle but it can effect the level of precision a shooter can obtain. The more movement you can remove from a firing sequence the easier it is to be repeatable.
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