Suppressors Walther P99 - Sprinco Upgrade.

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The Walther P99 has an unusual following. People love them or hate them and the whole issue appears to surround the trigger. Pure German engineering and design, with its replaceable backstrap swell, these units are still one of my favorite polymers to shoot in 9mm, especially suppressed. The single action trigger is excellent and that is what one lives with 99% of the time. It is the "stress" trigger, the double action trigger that pulls like a lawyer reading a liability disclaimer. If your not sure if this is "go time", Walther's "stress" trigger is for you.

But this is about the slide recoil assembly. The Walther requires an unusual loading on the slide spring to begin with and there are no reports of failure. But to say that the plastic spring retainer makes the Glock units look robust would be an understatement. Finer minds than mine would tell you that that plastic rod is there only to keep the spring in alignment. But still...

Enter Sprinco.

In short, the Spinco unit changes the whole feel of the Walther P99. It is a much softer, much more pleasant apex load. It is a magnificently constructed unit with both primary and secondary springs all resting on a hardened and polished 17-4 stainless rod (approx. 41 "c" rockwell). The Spinco unit has, as its secondary, a chrome silicon spring that really makes a difference in the final compression. The massively strong primary spring is also chrome silicon. All told the unit produces 28 pounds of return to battery load and that is huge for a polymer pistol. Open load is a delicate balance as well and Spinco spent years getting this perfect. The issue is completely eliminate wear from slide to frame impact and get back on target as quickly as possible. With the secondary spring dealing with slam and muzzle flip and the primary spring dealing with muzzle dip, the Sprinco unit greatly improves return to target. They make no claims on felt recoil, but on this platform, its obvious. Competitive shooters have used them for years.

Note : Those who run these units on the Walther will eventually see small rubs on the guide rod. This is normal and of no consequence at all. The harder barrel of the Walther (Rockwell 45-46 c) will mark the softer rod over time.

There isn't much that one can do to improve the best aspects of this pistol, this is surely one of them.

http://www.sprinco.com/recoil.html


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Re: Walther P99 - Sprinco Upgrade.

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What ever floats your boat.

Don't know the people that run the place.
Don't sell the stuff.
Paid full direct boat for mine quite a while ago.
Thought it worked better than I expected and thought others might like to know about it.
Put it where ever you think it is best found by others with P99s. Side Arms section seemed to me to be the best place.

Perhaps I should have just said "These springs are good shit" or the ever popular "+1 for Sprinco"

Its kinda like this...
http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1700112#Post1700112

or this..
http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1674232#Post1674232

or this...
http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1664582#Post1664582

or this...
http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1686639#Post1686639

or this...
http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1686710#Post1686710

or this..
http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1672057#Post1672057



 
Re: Walther P99 - Sprinco Upgrade.

Dude,

The sprico site says "NOT FOT WALTHER AS VARIANTS"

AS is the Anti-Stress SA/DA trigger
QA or Quick Action is the DAO trigger

so which pistol do you have AS or QA?

if you used one on the vastly superior AS, Id love to hear more as springco recommends against using on AS.

-Mutt

*************** THE NON AR-15 MUTT ARMORY**********************
Walther P99 AS InterArms *Walther P38 German *Walther P5 German
Walther PPK German * 20 varieties of 3//4 gen S&W auto pistols
Ruger 10/22, Hogue, Aumair barrel, Nikon Prostaff
Marlin Camp 9, Pullpup, EOTECH
Marlin Camp 45, compact scope
Winchester 70 stainless sporter 7mm Rem mag, nikon monarch
Sako TRG 308 modified, Steiner Penetrator
Savage 110 Tactical 300 wmag, Ultimate stock, tasco scope
Benelli SuperNova tactical 12 ga
Saiga 12 ga, converted, tromix mods

WANTED----> GE M61 A1 20MM gatling gun. ;-)
 
Re: Walther P99 - Sprinco Upgrade.

My bad. is see it's a TA (hey is that original?)

TS was SA/DA

The Sprinco site says a no go on this an other SA/DA variants. What has your experience been, how mnay rounds thru? Any heat?

-Mutt

*************** THE NON AR-15 MUTT ARMORY**********************
Walther P99 AS InterArms *Walther P38 German *Walther P5 German
Walther PPK German * 20 varieties of 3//4 gen S&W auto pistols
Ruger 10/22, Hogue, Aumair barrel, Nikon Prostaff
Marlin Camp 9, Pullpup, EOTECH
Marlin Camp 45, compact scope
Winchester 70 stainless sporter 7mm Rem mag, nikon monarch
Sako TRG 308 modified, Steiner Penetrator
Savage 110 Tactical 300 wmag, Ultimate stock, tasco scope
Benelli SuperNova tactical 12 ga
Saiga 12 ga, converted, tromix mods

WANTED----> GE M61 A1 20MM gatling gun. ;-)
 
Re: Walther P99 - Sprinco Upgrade.

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Mutt, you had it right the first time. AS variants, but there is allot more to the story. The vast majority of Sprinco units sold go into Walther P99s that are AS variants. In 2007 there were two (2) AS variants that blew out their mags. No one was hurt, the pistol was not hurt, the mags were dropped.

There is nothing to say it was the Sprinco units. There is nothing to say that the trigger mechanism had/has any "different" effect on the pistol whatsoever. In fact, Walther, during that very same period made some significant changes to all Walther magazines pistols that may, repeat may have been the cause. But to be safe, Sprinco put that on their website. The vast majority of AS Sprinco users called them up (including me) and asked "what is up with that?" Alan says I just had to do it to be super safe. Only two ever had this happen, Sprinco has tested both the 9 and 40 and could not get anything unusual to happen. Nor could they figure out what the Sprinco units might have done to make it happen. Only two, both in the first shot fired, 2007.

There you go. Never happened to me, no heat issues as well.



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Re: Walther P99 - Sprinco Upgrade.

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I asked the very same question. That being "does Sprinco makes assemblies for the Baby Glocks?" The answer is no, they do not.

Next question, why not? Answer, because.....get ready....the actual fit of the Glock slide to lower is so "generous" that it takes a plastic assembly to allow for distortion. Sprinco, made them, sold them and then watched closely as to how they wore and said...nope. When I last spoke to Alan, even he wished he had one more rod assembly for his own gun. No BJ, I am not making this up...no I don't work for these guys either, wait a minute...let me check again...nope. :>

In any event, the last question, so....how does EFK Firedragon make it all come together then? That remains for now a mystery. If somebody finds that the EFK unit is something more than just a SS replacement (Sprinco makes for a whole new shooting experience) please let us know!
 
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Rereading his sign-on name, RT thought it best to just post the picture..

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and ask him politely to read his remarks about trying to find a Sprinco for his own Glock written right above his question.

Then RT poured himself a drink, as he was having his first... migraine(sp).
 
Re: Walther P99 - Sprinco Upgrade.

OK, thank's for the picture.
I read your remarks about the baby glocks but considering that you talked with the manufacturer, installed one on your P99 and that they offer one system for the full size Glocks I just wanted to know if you have ever shoot it on a G17.
Anyway... Thank's for your review on the Walther.
 
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Your a good man, meant in humor...

These are really fine recoil systems. I would say you will find no better in the full length, single guide Glock family.



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