We live in good times

Jon Lester

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As I put away gear from the PTS match I was thinking. These are great times for riflemen. My first match I ever shot, back when SH membership was < 1k,had mostly hunting and varmint guns on the line, wood stocks were the norm and only a few had an elite " custom" build. If you had a rifle hovering around an inch you had something to brag about, ball and hunting ammo was common and a Mk 4 was the top scope! I had just cashed in some 401 money,sold a boker knife collection, and logged outa large wild cherry tree to buy a build from a small 4 man shop by the name of GA Precision and was surprised to find out they were NOT in Georgia? The rifle came in 3 days before the match and there it began.

Now most factory rifles come in under an inch out of the box. I have several more GAPs, a John Pierce, 2 from Accurate Ordnance's Dave Walker and one he'd built while at APA. ( several of these were on prize tables, as these guys really support the .sport) I also have ran or have experience with rifles from Mark Gordon at SAC, Bobby Keigans at Freedom GunWorks, Mark Williams at Raven, Terry Cross, LA Precision, RW Snyder, DTA and while AI has basically removed him from the market place, I have ran some remarkable rifles Mr Dave Tooley assembled for some of this country's greatest warriors .
We now can get a top of the line weapon from any of these men plus dozens of other secret builders that live just down the road from a friends cousin. Which is better? That cannot be answered, find a personality you like in a price timeframe that works, and deal with confidence. If that does not work, you can get a competitive system out of the box from AI or Sako that gives up nothing with no wait. Still out of reach? An offering from Savage, FN or Remington can put you in he winners circle if you can drive it, their top line rifles are just that good.

When you add the advancements in glass, Bushnell is often the most common scope on the line,yeah really, by the top shooters. Bullet improvements, powder choices, new sling designs and a chassis and stock market that is growing faster than the market can keep up with.........We Are Living In Some Really Good Times
 
I couldn't agree more. First rifle 25 years ago was a 22-250 Rem 770 with a Bosch and Lomb scope that had no turrets, just this weird adjustable base system. Thought it was great at the time. I remember thinking it was incredible you could hit a quarter maybe every 3-4 shots at a 100 yards. Now a Savage with a good stock I'm mad when I shoot .5+ MOA. Times are good and a custom will be coming soon.
 
Very, very true. Another major advantage we have is the web and sites like the Hide. Load data, info on matches, there is so much information at our disposal that we didn't have access to. I remember trolling this site in 2004 before I joined, man how the site and the sport has changed.

You are right John, we live in good times.
 
Dang Jon, I did not realize you were that old!!! Haha. Your post is very true and I hope things keep to continue to excel in this industry. Great companies competing in a respectful manner with other great companies in addition to education and training of young ones just helps out that much more.

Mark
 
I agree 100%! It was good shooting with you at the PTS match, even though I think we were in different squads. I remember looking around and the most relatively low-end rifles I saw were more capable in the accuracy department than anything that was common 10-15 years ago. Good times indeed! Now only if only I were good enough to take full advantage of my gear! I'm running out of excuses!
 
I truly believe that from the bone stock PSS, 5r , FN ,Savage to the top tier customs on the line at any given match: the weakest link in the system is the shooter 99% of the time. The top 5 guys would not made drastic positional changes if they had ran a good factory offering in 260 rem.
 
I first stumbled onto another place back in the late '90s. It had a Duty Roster and everything. Some of ya'll will know of what I am speaking. It was there that I first started learning about all this magical-secret stuff that had always eluded, yet intrigued me at the same time. The information was just not 'out there' for anyone who didn't know where to look.

And then others started sharing their knowledge. And then that knowledge got built upon. And expanded. To an almost exponential level. I do not see a crest.

But one thing I actually DO see, is a bit of a 'clamming up'. There are so many less of "them" sharing their information, let alone simply talking about their thoughts and experiences. We still have a fair number here, who do speak up. It is only a fraction of what it used to be.

So while we DO live in great times, we are also living in INTERESTING times. Is that such a good thing? What is the reason for the decline? While the expansion and continuance of the field is great,,,, is it to the best of 'our' ability?

Not unlike the past era of 'motorcycle craze', where every Visa-Cowboy had to have the latest, greatest, and bling-est,,, but didn't know CRAP about actually riding the bike (instead of the bike riding you, but that's another story) how many newcomers to the field, and/or the site are of the same ilk? Where do you put yourself?

That was an open question to all, not specifically directed at the OP. Of whom I question not at all.

So take it for what it is worth. Opportunity, as well as insight at the same time. Where can we all go from here? Where DO we want to go? Where/what do we want to AVOID?

Intersting Times..... though it is a proverb,,,,, is it also a presage?
 
I agree there is some awesome stuff being made and some great information being passed around. I truly think it's funny I've been a member since 2006 and have so few posts. I come here to read a lot :)
 
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I also see the quality and price improvement...look at the quality of glass today, and the price, for guys that don't want top spend a fortune...a $400 buck scope today seems to buy you a heck of a lot more scope than a $400 buck scope 10 years ago...maybe it is just living up here :)