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With all the waste, fraud and abuse being uncovered by DOGE, I’m getting the impression this is just the tip of the iceberg. At this point DOGE has realized they just need to focus on very basic fundamentals like 1) is this payment going to a real organization? 2) are these federal employees actually working at XYZ agency? 3) is this federal funding going to a known enemy or criminal element? Once they get done evaluating all the 450 Federal agencies for these basics fundamentals, then they can dive into more complex fraud like 1) Was this Grant money for “Transgender frog studies” actually laundered for personal use? And by whom? And did that money then get routed back to Pelosi, Biden, Schumer etc.

This video is one of many where Elon is explaining the depth of the waste, fraud and abuse being uncovered.



WE THE SHEEPLE are just one big cash cow that the politicians and bureaucrats pilfer from year after year. They never, ever had any intention of protecting us, our freedom, or our future. They’re just protecting the gravy train. Once the government started getting our income tax 100 years ago, they realized this is the new game, to figure out other ways to extract regular payments from the people. Payroll Tax, Social Security Tax, Sales Tax, Property Tax, Capital Gains Tax, Gasoline Tax, Alcohol and Tobacco Tax and when you die, Inheritance Tax.

Our government is sending hundreds of billions to charities and NGO’s who can then do whatever they want with the money. They can say it’s a charity to help with orphans and then spend 95% of the money on re-election campaigns and personal wealth. #TheClintonFoundation
 
I will have to watch the video later but here are a few of observations about DOGE revealing all of the fraud, waste and abuse of our tax dollars:

(1) This is a HUGE reason why we should see a major tax cut before June.
(2) Where possible we need demand an immediate and full refund from the people and NGOs that benefited from agencies like USAID.
(3) If this is happening on a Federal level, imagine this on a state and local level. We need to see state and local DOGE agencies.
 
All of the blue prints to unravelling this are all probably well documented in our never ending 1200 page bills that are passed without anyone reading them.... decades of towing a party line and fueled by personal gain .... both sides guilty in a corrupted system.

Nice to see the people have spoken up and demanded extreme measures to try and triage this situation. It took decades (likely far more) to fuck it all up.... it will take just as long to un fuck it. It's a decent start
 
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I work in scientific academia, and I don’t follow the news, but all over my LinkedIn feed I am seeing tons of crying over gov folks losing their jobs, such as National Park employees, forest service employees, National Science Foundation employees etc. So much crying and whining. Like they’re entitled to these jobs and how dare they be let go etc.

In my day when someone lost their job, they immediately started looking for another. They didn’t cry about it and scream at the administration on social media.

But my question is, I didn’t know DOGE was purging DOI or NSF yet….are these cuts to NPS, NSF, DOI etc part of DOGE, or is it something tangent and they’re all just blaming Elon anyway? I hadn’t heard about DOGE looking into DOI yet which is why I was confused about all these types of workers getting cut.
 
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I work in scientific academia, and I don’t follow the news, but all over my LinkedIn feed I am seeing tons of crying over gov folks losing their jobs, such as National Park employees, forest service employees, National Science Foundation employees etc. So much crying and whining. Like they’re entitled to these jobs and how dare they be let go etc.

In my day when someone lost their job, they immediately started looking for another. They didn’t cry about it and scream at the administration on social media.

But my question is, I didn’t know DOGE was purging DOI or NSF yet….are these cuts to NPS, NSF, DOI etc part of DOGE, or is it something tangent and they’re all just blaming Elon anyway? I hadn’t heard about DOGE looking into DOI yet which is why I was confused about all these types of workers getting cut.

Not 100 percent sure… but I think they are getting rid of ALL probationary fed employees. And there are tens of thousands…. Hundreds of thousands.. hired under Biden to pad fed workforce.


NOAA for example had some 800 new people in the last months of the Biden mess. Why did NOAA need 800 more people to forecast weather all of a sudden? Or was it a play for votes or to make the bureaucracy “too big to fail.” Or to pack in the “climate change types” and turn NOAA into a bunch of leftist druids

The firings are probationary people. So can be done for any reason. They have no protections while on probation.

And lots of very junior park rangers, etc are gone.

Buddy of mine just left academia for an historian spot in DoD. But fortunately he had years in GS position before going to teach at a private Military College, so not probationary. He comes back in with his prior service recognized.

The problem with a lot of these folks “just getting new jobs” is that they aren’t qualified for anything. Because their degrees are in useless social justice shit. And they don’t want to go be a trainee insurance salesman for State Farm or a junior programmer for IBM or a salesman for Frito Lay or some other junior job at a company which will train them and where they can rise through the ranks.

They want to go save fucking whales on the government tit. Or be a vice President three weeks out of college. So they are unqualified for private sector. And un-interested in it. You know what, kiddo’s? Being an accountant is boring. But it pays really well!

Of course it’s hard work. Extra schooling. Tough tests. But we need accountants! And carpenters. And welders. And claims adjusters… well, that’s probably all done by computers. But actuaries tell the computers what to do… so there is that!

The world is full of boring jobs where you can get really rich. But if all you want to do is show up as a government drone, be an interpretive dancer, or teach Bantus how to not shit in a hole… then right now… you are unemployable!!

Oh and… unemployed.

Sirhr
 
The problem with a lot of these folks “just getting new jobs” is that they aren’t qualified for anything. Because their degrees are in useless social justice shit. And don’t want to go be a trainee insurance salesman for State Farm or a junior programmer for IBM which will train them. They want to go save fucking whales on the government tit. So they are unqualified for private sector. And un-interested in it. You know what, kiddo’s? Being an accountant is boring. But it pays really well!

The first half of this video is about the bitch slapping that Little Z got but if you scroll ahead to 1:01:45 he starts talking about the weeping a wailing of the SJWs getting laid of from the government jobs.

 
The first half of this video is about the bitch slapping that Little Z got but if you scroll ahead to 1:01:45 he starts talking about the weeping a wailing of the SJWs getting laid of from the government jobs.



Excellent! Though he is stealing all my best rants!! ;-)

Sirhr
 
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3) If this is happening on a Federal level, imagine this on a state and local level. We need to see state and local DOGE agencies.
It's bad...Even where I live (in a deep red state) the level of bureaucracy at the State and Local levels is absolutely astounding. I saw first hand how alot of the covid money was spent and was absolutely aghast at the waste. It was unbelievable.
 
It's bad...Even where I live (in a deep red state) the level of bureaucracy at the State and Local levels is absolutely astounding. I saw first hand how alot of the covid money was spent and was absolutely aghast at the waste. It was unbelievable.

State by state DOGE.

And Electoral Colleges at the state levels.

Right now, VT is trying to let 16 and 17 year olds vote.

Wait... they can't own guns and aren't considered mature until they are 26... and can be on their parents insurance... yeah whatever.

But they are perfectly good to vote at 16.

You see what they are doing here?

Sirhr
 
Despite how deep the corruption is and the absolute dumpster fire the past 4 years has been (especially Biden election fraud and Jan 6) - it is promising that We The Sheeple did pull our collective heads out of asses to re-elect Donald J. Trump. After an absolute assault on all conservative voters, two assasination attempts and numerous lawfare cases, the majority of voters saw through the BS and voted Trump. So there is hope for the future.

We wouldn’t be talking about any of this waste, fraud and abuse without Trump as President.
 
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All of the blue prints to unravelling this are all probably well documented in our never ending 1200 page bills that are passed without anyone reading them.... decades of towing a party line and fueled by personal gain .... both sides guilty in a corrupted system.

Nice to see the people have spoken up and demanded extreme measures to try and triage this situation. It took decades (likely far more) to fuck it all up.... it will take just as long to un fuck it. It's a decent start
How do you figure that? Just as long to stop the corruption? It might take a minute, but it can absolutely go quick. About as quick as some short drops and sudden stops…

Decades, WTF…
 
Despite how deep the corruption is and the absolute dumpster fire the past 4 years has been (especially Biden election fraud and Jan 6) - it is promising that We The Sheeple did pull our collective heads out of asses to re-elect Donald J. Trump. After an absolute assault on all conservative voters, two assasination attempts and numerous lawfare cases, the majority of voters saw through the BS and voted Trump. So there is hope for the future.

We wouldn’t be talking about any of this waste, fraud and abuse without Trump as President.

No other republican would've pardoned J6 political prisoners either

Or hired people like Homan, Tulsi, RFK, Hegseth
 
I’ve known most of these things for decades, but sometimes you start a conversation on a public forum to, wait for it… converse with other people to hear their thoughts and maybe even learn something. If you read my post and your first thought was “I already know all of this” then my bet is I’m older and wiser than you. ;)
 
How do you figure that? Just as long to stop the corruption? It might take a minute, but it can absolutely go quick. About as quick as some short drops and sudden stops…

Decades, WTF…
It’s ok if you disagree … I’ll stand by for a minute, some short drops and sudden stops…. Hope you’re right.
Do I check back in next week, month or next year to see if all of the waste Fraud and corruption within government is gone?
 
I will have to watch the video later but here are a few of observations about DOGE revealing all of the fraud, waste and abuse of our tax dollars:

(1) This is a HUGE reason why we should see a major tax cut before June.
(2) Where possible we need demand an immediate and full refund from the people and NGOs that benefited from agencies like USAID.
(3) If this is happening on a Federal level, imagine this on a state and local level. We need to see state and local DOGE agencies.
DeSantis said he is starting his own Florida DOGE.

IT OUGHT TO BE EYE OPENING AS WELL
 
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I work in scientific academia…

In my day when someone lost their job, they immediately started looking for another. They didn’t cry about it and scream at the administration on social media.

Would it be fair to say…

1. In your (our) day “Social Media” wasn’t a thing, and...,

2. …you’re lucky to have one of those occupations with relatively good security?

It doesn’t sting unless you get bitten.
 
Would it be fair to say…

1. In your (our) day “Social Media” wasn’t a thing, and...,

2. …you’re lucky to have one of those occupations with relatively good security?

It doesn’t sting unless you get bitten.
I’ve had so many different occupations - It took me a while to mentally list them all in my head! Of course senility or mental decline could be the reason, but I’m sticking with the story that it’s just been THAT MANY restarts.
 
I’ve had so many different occupations - It took me a while to mentally list them all in my head! Of course senility or mental decline could be the reason, but I’m sticking with the story that it’s just been THAT MANY restarts.

Tell me about it, mon…

My joints tell me different stories all the time, just wish they’d stay consistent.
 
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As much as I like what DOGE is doing, it really doesn’t even scratch the surface in regards to all the fraud waste and abuse. They also need to fully audit the workforce as well. The federal workforce is ripe with ways to reduce spending. My state paid $35,000 for a circular rug with an emblem. Just wait till August if you really want to see it, when all the spend, spend, spend directives come out. But I don’t need to purchase anything, it doesn’t matter, if we don’t spend it, we won’t get it next year. But I didn’t need the money this year, so a good chance I won’t need it next year either. Poof, off the money goes to other areas to buy new furniture to replace the furniture they just bought last year. SMH 🤦
 
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I’ve had so many different occupations - It took me a while to mentally list them all in my head! Of course senility or mental decline could be the reason, but I’m sticking with the story that it’s just been THAT MANY restarts.
Being unable to hold a job is a badge of honor...

Just 'sayin.

Sirhr
 
Every state should be required to have an external DOGE team go through their GOV finance.

One thing that DOGE has uncovered is that SS was not going insolvent, it was being used as a honey pot and being drained for other programs. Anyone with a brain has an idea this was happening but now it is apparent to everyone.
if they follow the money at the federal level, I think this could happen through fraud investigations. Let’s hope!
 
2 questions.

1. How old are you? ( This is critical )

2. Are you just now figuring this out.


Based on question 1 you could be ahead or behind the curve.

Either way welcome to reality

As much as I like what DOGE is doing, it really doesn’t even scratch the surface in regards to all the fraud waste and abuse. They also need to fully audit the workforce as well. The federal workforce is ripe with ways to reduce spending. My state paid $35,000 for a circular rug with an emblem. Just wait till August if you really want to see it, when all the spend, spend, spend directives come out. But I don’t need to purchase anything, it doesn’t matter, if we don’t spend it, we won’t get it next year. But I didn’t need the money this year, so a good chance I won’t need it next year either. Poof, off the money goes to other areas to buy new furniture to replace the furniture they just bought last year. SMH 🤦

Yeah, how much of the $150B for Ukraine has probably disappeared and funneled back into politicians hands?

I’ve often wonndered how MSNBC stays on the air when no one watches their shows? Their ratings are always in The toilet. Some federal money has probably been siphoned off to keep them afloat and continuing to spew DNC talking points despite being completely out of touch with the American people.
 
As much as I like what DOGE is doing, it really doesn’t even scratch the surface in regards to all the fraud waste and abuse. They also need to fully audit the workforce as well. The federal workforce is ripe with ways to reduce spending. My state paid $35,000 for a circular rug with an emblem. Just wait till August if you really want to see it, when all the spend, spend, spend directives come out. But I don’t need to purchase anything, it doesn’t matter, if we don’t spend it, we won’t get it next year. But I didn’t need the money this year, so a good chance I won’t need it next year either. Poof, off the money goes to other areas to buy new furniture to replace the furniture they just bought last year. SMH 🤦

Use it, or lose it has been one of the biggest FW&A programs, ever.

It's not just big ol US Gov't that does it.
My wife works for the sheriff's office and they do the same thing.
What's even worse, is they went from driving patrol cars, to driving patrol trucks and Suburbans.
Not only do they cost more to purchase, but they cost more for maintenance and they use a shitload of fuel compared to their pervious cars.