Rifle Scopes Weaver tac.... What am I missing? (fixed)

[skep_tic1]

Scott sent me one of the Weaver 3-15 tactical mil/mil. Just wondering what I am missing. I would at least have expected the turrets vertical mark to line up with the mark on the scope plus they're wobbly. Plus, the glass seems to be a far cry from my IOR. Has your mileage been similar?

 

[taseal]

Re: Weaver tac.... What am I missing?

uh oh! I was just looking at the the same one with the illum reticle.

bad batch perhaps?

 

[lennyo3034]

Re: Weaver tac.... What am I missing?

I wouldn't expect the glass to come close to an IOR's. Mine gets in today, we'll see how it looks tonight.

 

[ranger1183]

Re: Weaver tac.... What am I missing?

that's the first negative review I've seen regarding the new Weavers. Post some pictures of the problems you're experiencing if you can.

 

[VJJPunisher]

Re: Weaver tac.... What am I missing?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ranger1183</div><div class="ubbcode-body">that's the first negative review I've seen regarding the new Weavers. Post some pictures of the problems you're experiencing if you can.</div></div>

i concur, pics please. And did you reset the turret cap?

 

[skep_tic1]

Re: Weaver tac.... What am I missing?

I'll try to put some pics up tonight

 

[frankythefly]

Re: Weaver tac.... What am I missing?

You can't compare a scope like that to IOR, rather compare it to something in its own class like Bushnell, Burris, or Vortex PST.

 

[gglass]

Re: Weaver tac.... What am I missing?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: skep_tic1</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Scott sent me one of the Weaver 3-15 tactical mil/mil. Just wondering what I am missing. I would at least have expected the turrets vertical mark to line up with the mark on the scope plus they're wobbly. Plus, the glass seems to be a far cry from my IOR. Has your mileage been similar? </div></div>

Did you buy the version with the Mil-Dots or illuminated Enhanced Mil-Dots?

My EMDR Weaver's turrets are rock solid and have the hash marks lined up with the indicator line. I don't have an IOR to compare the glass, but the clarity and definition is excellent.

Perfectly aligned turrets:

 

[skep_tic1]

Re: Weaver tac.... What am I missing?

That's the one I got. However, my turrets do not align like that

 

[gglass]

Re: Weaver tac.... What am I missing?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: skep_tic1</div><div class="ubbcode-body">That's the one I got. However, my turrets do not align like that</div></div>

I would be inclined to send it back to Scott for replacement. If you have not mounted it yet.

Who knows... You might wind up with better turrets and glass, if your current example is just a bad apple.

 

[AXEMAN]

Re: Weaver tac.... What am I missing?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: gglass</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: skep_tic1</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Scott sent me one of the Weaver 3-15 tactical mil/mil. Just wondering what I am missing. I would at least have expected the turrets vertical mark to line up with the mark on the scope plus they're wobbly. Plus, the glass seems to be a far cry from my IOR. Has your mileage been similar? </div></div>

Did you buy the version with the Mil-Dots or illuminated Enhanced Mil-Dots?

My EMDR Weaver's turrets are rock solid and have the hash marks lined up with the indicator line. I don't have an IOR to compare the glass, but the clarity and definition is excellent.

Perfectly aligned turrets:

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nice looking controls. thats the FFP scope isnt it? illumination controls look interesting, how do you like them?

 

[gglass]

Re: Weaver tac.... What am I missing?

It is indeed a FFP scope.

So far I love it. The new Weaver has everything I need, with the exception of a zero stop. I suppose that in Weaver's thinking, the locking turrets are some kind of replacement for a zero stop... I don't think so.

 

[lennyo3034]

Re: Weaver tac.... What am I missing?

Just got mine in, the turrets are lined up perfectly. I'll try to compare it with my sightron SIII at some point this week.

 

[taseal]

Re: Weaver tac.... What am I missing?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: AXEMAN</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: gglass</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: skep_tic1</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Scott sent me one of the Weaver 3-15 tactical mil/mil. Just wondering what I am missing. I would at least have expected the turrets vertical mark to line up with the mark on the scope plus they're wobbly. Plus, the glass seems to be a far cry from my IOR. Has your mileage been similar? </div></div>

Did you buy the version with the Mil-Dots or illuminated Enhanced Mil-Dots?

My EMDR Weaver's turrets are rock solid and have the hash marks lined up with the indicator line. I don't have an IOR to compare the glass, but the clarity and definition is excellent.

Perfectly aligned turrets:

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nice looking controls. thats the FFP scope isnt it? illumination controls look interesting, how do you like them? </div></div>

damn dude! you got alot of scopes!!

what level is that? it looks nice.

too bad I'm a left, all these things are on the wrong side. from bolt to parallax to light to level. LOL

 

[skep_tic1]

Re: Weaver tac.... What am I missing?

Believe me now?

 

[taseal]

Re: Weaver tac.... What am I missing?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: skep_tic1</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Believe me now?
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I'm no pro, but those are pretty close to the line? no?

is that too much off in the world of scopes? lol

 

[skep_tic1]

Re: Weaver tac.... What am I missing?

It is to much off in the world of me! Plus, it is no where near as aligned as the picture of the other one in this thread

 

[fdkay]

Re: Weaver tac.... What am I missing?

IMHO, that is a very minor amount of offset. as long as it remains constant thoughout the adjustment range, it is a non-issue. It doesn't even appear the width of the line off.
It was probably a bad batch of laser etching on the turrets and not an indication of the mechanicals of the scope.

If it really bothers you, send ot back for an exchange.

As far as the glass goes, few scopes compare to an IOR in the glass department, and the ones that do are NOT half the price.

 

[frankythefly]

Re: Weaver tac.... What am I missing?

I would see if Scott at LO has another one that you could switch it out. Although I don't believe that LO usually stocks Weaver products.

 

[BCP]

Re: Weaver tac.... What am I missing?

You aren't going to get IOR glass in a Weaver. As far as the turrets go I would try loosening and then resetting them at zero, if they are still wobbly then send it back. Lemons happen.

 

[ranger1183]

Re: Weaver tac.... What am I missing?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: skep_tic1</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

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Oh yeah, that scope is screwed!

I'll give you $50 for it ...

 

[lennyo3034]

Re: Weaver tac.... What am I missing?

The turrets are quite easy to reset to zero, have you tried just doing that? I agree with you that the turrets seem a bit wobbly, I think thats related to the locking feature.

 

[skep_tic1]

Re: Weaver tac.... What am I missing?

Yes I have tried to reset the turrets to zero. Called Scott at LO...... he is making ME send it to Weaver. Now I gotta deal with that. WTF? I dislike bullshit

 

[taseal]

Re: Weaver tac.... What am I missing?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: skep_tic1</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Yes I have tried to reset the turrets to zero. Called Scott at LO...... he is making ME send it to Weaver. Now I gotta deal with that. WTF? I dislike bullshit </div></div>

isn't it a warranty problem though? shouldn't the maker deal with it? Scott isn't walmart ya know

 

[skep_tic1]

Re: Weaver tac.... What am I missing?

Dude, all I know is that I bought a gun sight from Scott because Scott spoke highly of it and it is horse poop straight out of the box.

 

[Jon A]

Re: Weaver tac.... What am I missing?

That's a lot closer to aligning than my S&B 3-12 PMII was.

 

[ranger1183]

Re: Weaver tac.... What am I missing?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ranger1183</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: skep_tic1</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

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Oh yeah, that scope is screwed!

I'll give you $50 for it ...

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ok, skep_tic1, you push a hard bargain. I'll give you $60 for it!

Seriously, I'm having a hard time seeing your point as to what's "wrong" with this scope. The lack of "perfection" the pictures is showing is way less than I've seen with high end scopes. I'm talking about scopes I've owned by NightForce, Schmidt & Bender, and Premier Heritage.

My heart goes out to Scott at Liberty Optics. He's a one man operation having to ignore everything else to deal with this "knob" issue. So sad.

skep_tic1, remember to call this scope "horse poop", the knobs "wobbly" and the glass "a far cry from IOR" when you sell this Weaver. Remember to call it "used" and "defective" and not "new in box" since this is preforming so poorly for you, the original owner.

I think that you ought to find an extremely experienced Sniper's Hide member in your neck of the woods to do an unbiased analysis of this scope. I'm sure there are excellent and very experienced Sniper's Hide shooters in North Carolina. Finding someone who's damn good shouldn't be difficult. Show them everything that is wrong with the scope. Don't be surprised if they heartedly disagree with your assessment. Also, don't be surprised if they take apart your "wobbly" knobs to see if they've been abused* verses manufacturer's defect.

*As a side note, you'd be amazed at what some people will do to a product when they have buyer's remorse and they want to get their money back.

Scott Berish, my heart really goes out to you on this one.

 

[BOLTRIPPER]

Re: Weaver tac.... What am I missing?

oh......the brain damage............

 

[skep_tic1]

Re: Weaver tac.... What am I missing?

Jeez man, to put forth the idea that I would do something on purpose to this scope because I have buyers remorse is ludacris and quite frankly kind of ballzy. You must work for Leupold.
To the clear the air, I have no problem with Scott. I've spent money with him before this purchase and I will after this purchase. It is however an unfortunate situation.
Weaver Optics customer service has been quite helpful and the problem is isolated. The ring on the bottom of the turret housing (not the knob itself) that holds the stationary hashmarks is glued on. Apparently this one didn't get glued or didn't get enough glue, so that it had become misaligned. Looking back I probably should not have posted this at all. It is definitely not Scott's fault

 

[buyobuyo]

Re: Weaver tac.... What am I missing?

So what was the fix? In case, someone else has the same problems?

 

[skep_tic1]

Re: Weaver tac.... What am I missing?

To send it back to the gentlemen at Weaver optics and have it repaired.... properly! So as not to void the warranty. <span style="font-weight: bold">glue </span>

 

[MitchInOR]

Re: Weaver tac.... What am I missing?

So what is the issue with the wobbly turrets? Are they all this way?

 

[BCP]

Re: Weaver tac.... What am I missing?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: skep_tic1</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Yes I have tried to reset the turrets to zero. Called Scott at LO...... he is making ME send it to Weaver. Now I gotta deal with that. WTF? I dislike bullshit </div></div>

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: skep_tic1</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Weaver Optics customer service has been quite helpful</div></div>

And the crisis is OVER! Brought to you by superglue.

 

[M855]

Re: Weaver tac.... What am I missing?

Did you check the set/allen screw that you use to zero out the knobs?

 

[Flyingbullseye]

Re: Weaver tac.... What am I missing?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: M855</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Did you check the set/allen screw that you use to zero out the knobs? </div></div>

That scope doesn't have a set/allen screw to zero out the knobs. The top of the knob seen in the pics above unscrews and you just slip off the knob and set it how you wish. A real nice feature if you ask me since you can't strip the screw by accident.

Flyingbullseye

 

[skep_tic1]

Re: Weaver tac.... What am I missing?

The "wobble" is a non issue. When the turrets are in the unlocked position they will give if a little deflection is applied. When the turrets are in the locked position they are very solid.

 

[arcticeddie]

Re: Weaver tac.... What am I missing?

I just got my Weaver 3-15x50 via UPS from Midway. It's now mounted on an FN SPR/Manners T5A/260Rem. I see the same issues as noted above but not quite as much. The turret marks are offset by about the width of the mark. The knobs show a little bit of play but only when up in the adjust position. When locked down, they're firm. I can also see a little bit of chromatic aberration at 15X on bright white edges. Also, the sunshade is slightly darker than the scope. None of these are a problem. The image quality is excellent at any magnification. It makes my Millett TRS-1 look like real trash, and I kept the good one out of three.

 

[VJJPunisher]

Re: Weaver tac.... What am I missing?

that offset is miniscule, your making a huge deal out of something that even the super high dollar scopes look like, i know i have one that lines up like yours, does it function, absolutely. Please take no offense but i think your a dipshit

 

[Force_Multiplier]

Re: Weaver tac.... What am I missing?

are you fucking kidding me?... does it track.... then shoot the fucking thing... or are you some kinda mall ninja that just buys shit for the KEWL factor...

stop being a baby...

 

[Heronion]

Re: Weaver tac.... What am I missing?

Good lord a'mighty. A friend of mine has a Schmidt und Bender that's even worse than that. It tracks fine. Unless there is some problem with accuracy, what's the big deal? In fact, on that last picture, when looking at it slightly from the right, you can't even tell. Seems to me like you want a divorce because your wife has got a bad haircut.

 

[jeffersonv]

Re: Weaver tac.... What am I missing?

I'd just use it like it is and send it in to get it fixed.

 

[sobrbiker883]

Re: Weaver tac.... What am I missing? (fixed)

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: skep_tic1</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Scott sent me one of the Weaver 3-15 tactical mil/mil. Just wondering what I am missing. I would at least have expected the turrets vertical mark to line up with the mark on the scope plus they're wobbly. Plus, the glass seems to be a far cry from my IOR. Has your mileage been similar?
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That low laughing noise is me chuckling at everyone over the past eighteen months that have deluded themselves into believing that you can have it all. Precision rifles and their optics are all give and take, if you want it all, it will cost.....

Good thing is, my money says the Weaver will be tracking and functioning after the IOR isn't.

 

[skep_tic1]

Re: Weaver tac.... What am I missing?

Mr VAJayJay, I would never take offense. It's not my nature.

 

[skep_tic1]

Re: Weaver tac.... What am I missing?

Mr VAJayJay, I would never take offense. It's not my nature.

 

[RegularGuy]

Re: Weaver tac.... What am I missing?

Mine just showed up today and it's got the same issue. Shouldn't affect much though.

 

[decider]

Re: Weaver tac.... What am I missing?

what are you missing? a BRAIN... dipshit, dumbass, f***ing retard... but please don't take any offense...

 

[marduk185]

Re: Weaver tac.... What am I missing?

i concur with mr vajayjay and the decider in their expert synopsis of your mental status, however since you are clearly unhappy with this scope in its current condition you can send it to me ill fix it.