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So Ti does the same thing as blue "heat treated" chrome?Yes, color = oxidation of contaminants or alloys, which means you're not getting full strength. We weld Titanium with Lasers or Electron Beams almost exclusively here where I work, and when you see a weld with any color, you know someone didn't wait long enough after closing the tank to start the weld.
That said, I've welded titanium motorcycle exhaust's in less than ideal conditions (big rubbermaid tote purges as well as possible with argon)... You're getting color no matter how careful you are in conditions like that... for the application though, who cares? It's non-structural, and with the heat of the exhaust on something like a header, it's going to blue from oxidation in minutes anyway... My buddy was pissed when I "ruined" his brand new Taylor Made Racing exhaust for his S1000RR... He mounted it, and after we stopped an hour later, he couldn't even find the weld with how blue the rest of the exhaust was...
Only a weld on each end of these but no color. Pretty dam straight too, with no EDM at all
NASA disagrees. That know that rejection based on color is inaccurate, that you have to do a physical test.
The Thunder Chicken is a better silencer than the TBAC offers.Glad I saw this before getting a thunderchicken.
I went and checked the NASA titanium welding guidelines. This seems to indicate that color is one of the metrics used to assess the quality of the welds. Can you link me or direct me to your source and maybe give a small explanation as to why color is so inaccurate in predicting weld strength?NASA disagrees. That know that rejection based on color is inaccurate, that you have to do a physical test.
Please post pics of one of your colorless cores after being shot. Amazing, those colors come right out. Should you reject those? If you are confident in your welds, remove the outer tube and save your customers 4 oz.?
I went and checked the NASA titanium welding guidelines. This seems to indicate that color is one of the metrics used to assess the quality of the welds. Can you link me or direct me to your source and maybe give a small explanation as to why color is so inaccurate in predicting weld strength?
4.12.2.1 Visual Inspection[GWR 132] Titanium weld deposit and heat-affected zone shall adhere to the color requirements of the accompanying detailed weld process specification identified in section 1.2.
Can't wait to see your new stuff.We've built tubeless cans, it's not a problem.
It states color is not necessarily an indicator, and the absence is color is not necessarily an indicator. That you must physically test both. Shoot their core see how it looks.I went and checked the NASA titanium welding guidelines. This seems to indicate that color is one of the metrics used to assess the quality of the welds. Can you link me or direct me to your source and maybe give a small explanation as to why color is so inaccurate in predicting weld strength?
4.12.2.1 Visual Inspection[GWR 132] Titanium weld deposit and heat-affected zone shall adhere to the color requirements of the accompanying detailed weld process specification identified in section 1.2.
Here's two examples where the taper design sucks ass until everyone in the world starts using them. At the timestamps below, the cans become loose causing issues. The vso gun channel later has a strike with a round at the end of the video. Q cans could use a revision, hopefully they take it as constructive criticism and build something great.
at 8:37
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wy0vTldzF5c
at 2:38
It states color is not necessarily an indicator, and the absence is color is not necessarily an indicator. That you must physically test both. Shoot their core see how it looks.
I've one multiple US .mil contracts we Ti silencers. No one else has. We do not have weld failures.
I just wanted to point out 2 examples where experienced youtubers had issues with their cans. If you have taper barrels, I'm sure Q's cans are great. But if your like most of the people in the world who use 90 degree shoulder barrels, tapered suppressors just don't engage as well as other DT cans.
Thanks for the support! What would you like to know?@ Kevin B. and the TBAC team, please keep your discussions going, i think its highly educational and i enjoy them, thank you!
i have a Q suppressor in NFA Jail and getting ready to buy a TBAC ( 6.5 9ultra ) after that ill probably get another Q(T-Chicken) for blasting
Hi. Why don't you contribute by starting your own company and doing things the way you see as best? Or starting doing independent sound testing?Kevin, can you start metering your cans at the ear on various rifles against Q suppressors on video. This would be more scientific than those awkward try-hard instagram comparisons you guys do.
Kevin, can you start metering your cans at the ear on various rifles against Q suppressors on video. This would be more scientific than those awkward try-hard instagram comparisons you guys do.
Where are the other companies owners in responding to customers directly on a consistent basis?
I’m not in a firearms related industry, but I try to treat my competitors as colleagues. I don’t smack talk them or their products/services. I let my products call them out without having to say a thing. I let how I conduct my business speak for itself without having to point it out.Why do you guys get so upset over him calling out other companies products?
You can't be serious. <facepalm>
I’m not in a firearms related industry, but I try to treat my competitors as colleagues. I don’t smack talk them or their products/services. I let my products call them out without having to say a thing. I let how I conduct my business speak for itself without having to point it out.
Telling everyone how great you are is part of marketing. To me, in my own opinion, I get a little leary when it becomes insufficient to market how great you are, and you fell the need to trash someone else and their business... it that’s just me. Maybe I’m too much of a gentleman for the firearms business, but my clients sure appreciate the way I do things, because I still have the ones I started with 20 years ago...
You do realize who TbacRay and Zack Smith in this thread are don't you?You guys sure are getting all upset over a guy who likes to run his company a bit different than most. Sure, he can come across as an asshole, but he's keeping other companies on their toes in a way that customers can't. Why do you guys get so upset over him calling out other companies products? Is that not what competition is about? Does that not produce better products and keep companies honest? Where's the negative for us customers?
Where are the other companies owners in responding to customers directly on a consistent basis? You may not like what he says, but at least he says what he thinks and is responsive, even to those who are assholes back.
There's a ton more to suppressors than just dB numbers - and if you've done your research, unlike "your typical group of internet sheep", then you would know that Kevin has a specific goal in mind with his suppressors, namely weight and POI shift. But hey, if he claimed it's the "quietest in the market" - well, go ahead, call him out and put up the numbers. But the only numbers posted above are against a suppressor that's not in the market yet.... Those other companies are free to buy Q silencers and do their own testing as well to post.
You do realize who TbacRay and Zack Smith in this thread are don't you?