Went to pillar bed/glass bed the 455 and ........

[djdilliodon]

Remembered I lent my drill press to someone lol. As soon as I got everything ready to go I remembered I let someone barrow it! I was so tempted to use a hand drill but the cz deserves the press. Not sure how everyone pillar beds but I use solid copper pillars (super strong!, if anyone needs let me know) that are 9/16" thick with an 1/8" wall thickness, 1/4" stock inletting gouge to remove 1/16"-1/8" of material from action area after pillar bedding, 9/16" forstner bit (also use piloted counterbores), JB weld or acraglas, and stainless steel rods. Noticed I also have no acraglas, jb weld, devcon, mixing cups, and a few other things. I'm convinced my wife throws my shit out just to piss me off cause I could of swore I had acraglas, jb weld, mixing cups ect! Since I'm off from work the next 3 days, I'm gonna pick random shit of hers and throw it out lol!
Here are some of the things I use for pillar bedding.


Here is the pillars measuring the wall thickness

 

[jameslee]

Nice. Thank you.

You shouldn't jump to conclusions regarding your wife throwing stuff out. Does she let the guy who borrowed your drill press in the house when you're not there?

 

[djdilliodon]

Nice. Thank you.

You shouldn't jump to conclusions regarding your wife throwing stuff out. Does she let the guy who borrowed your drill press in the house when you're not there?

It had to be her but what can ya do. The person who borrowed it is her grandfather and if he took it, he would asked first.

 

[BenY 2013]

Do you pillar bed and bed the action at the same time? Or do you you do it in two different swipes? A friend and I made a "piloted drill" sort of that I use with a hand drill to drill the holes out. I have a few threaded screws that I put into the action slide the stock over that, and put the threaded rods or the pilot into the drill and go to town. Works amazingly and gives a nice straight hole!

Ben

 

[djdilliodon]

Do you pillar bed and bed the action at the same time? Or do you you do it in two different swipes? A friend and I made a "piloted drill" sort of that I use with a hand drill to drill the holes out. I have a few threaded screws that I put into the action slide the stock over that, and put the threaded rods or the pilot into the drill and go to town. Works amazingly and gives a nice straight hole!

Ben

I do it separate as when I pillar bed that sets the height of the action within the stock. After I remove 1/16"-1/8" of material in the action area and first 3" of the barrel channel so when I glass bed it, I get a solid amount of bedding in the stock.

 

[BenY 2013]

Gotcha!

Ben

 

[justin amateur]

You can always mix your own bedding epoxy if necessary.
I build small wood boats as a hobby, and the hull joints are bonded
and filled with equal parts wood flour and epoxy. The resultant mix
is strong enough to stake your life on and also handy for action/barrel bedding.
Also cab-o-sil or milled glass fibers can be added to the epoxy for even greater strength.
For rifle bedding epoxy I use loc-tite 5 minute 2 part from the local home improvement store.
Cheap and effective for the small jobs that you run into when pillaring and bedding a rifle.

Wood flour from MAS mixed with 5 minute epoxy ready for application

Finished barrel support pads that eliminated stock flex
and dampened barrel harmonics on my 455 Varmint 22wmr
Took 3/4 inch groups at 50 yards down to less than 1/2 inch.
Pretty good for a factory 22wmr.

 

[djdilliodon]

You can always mix your own bedding epoxy if necessary.
I build small wood boats as a hobby, and the hull joints are bonded
and filled with equal parts wood flour and epoxy. The resultant mix
is strong enough to stake your life on and also handy for action/barrel bedding.
Also cab-o-sil or milled glass fibers can be added to the epoxy for even greater strength.
For rifle bedding epoxy I use loc-tite 5 minute 2 part from the local home improvement store.
Cheap and effective for the small jobs that you run into when pillaring and bedding a rifle.

Wood flour from MAS mixed with 5 minute epoxy ready for application

Finished barrel support pads that eliminated stock flex
and dampened barrel harmonics on my 455 Varmint 22wmr
Took 3/4 inch groups at 50 yards down to less than 1/2 inch.
Pretty good for a factory 22wmr.

I usually use acraglas gel for bedding and jb weld to secure the pillars in place. Have you ever used jb weld for bedding? Reason I ask is jb weld is cheap and I believe it has the highest strength at 3960 psi. I actually found the acraglas I had and from jumping the gun, let's just say I'm in the dog house lol.

 

[justin amateur]

Yep, used jb weld many times over the years, even bedding.
The steel powder that's mixed with the epoxy will bleed rust over time.
Fine for engine blocks and indoor use but not things exposed to moisture regularly.
Loc-Tite data sheets read 3600 psi cured, add a filler material and the mix has
greater compressive strength than the unadulterated epoxy. Just offering an
alternative for when you can't find what you want immediately. Sometimes
you just want to get that project done and waiting is not an option.

 

[djdilliodon]

Yep, used jb weld many times over the years, even bedding.
The steel powder that's mixed with the epoxy will bleed rust over time.
Fine for engine blocks and indoor use but not things exposed to moisture regularly.
Loc-Tite data sheets read 3600 psi cured, add a filler material and the mix has
greater compressive strength than the unadulterated epoxy. Just offering an
alternative for when you can't find what you want immediately. Sometimes
you just want to get that project done and waiting is not an option.

Tell me about it! I wanna drill the stock so bad but my press is at the wife's grandfathers house. Last night I was looking at the stock with my portacable hand drill saying ya we can do this by hand lol. I don't like using a hand drill cause the drill can walk on ya very quick! I'll just have to be patient I guess .

 

[justin amateur]

I don't trust power drillls on my wood stocks.
For widening the existing action holes I go slow and low tech.
Especially when the existing holes are open to the inletting on one side.

That's when some 100 grit on a small diameter mandrel
hand operated get's 'er done. Takes a while but works.
No splintering, no over drilling.

 

[djdilliodon]

I don't trust power drillls on my wood stocks.
For widening the existing action holes I go slow and low tech.
Especially when the existing holes are open to the inletting on one side.

That's when some 100 grit on a small diameter mandrel
hand operated get's 'er done. Takes a while but works.
No splintering, no over drilling.

With a press all I do is put the stock in the press vise, make sure its level and bit is aligned and it's done quick and clean.

 

[Pinecone]

I use WEST epoxy for many things in different hobbies.

A basic resin, with a large number of possible add ins to customize for the job. I would think milled glass fibers and something like cabosil (makes the epoxy thixotropic) would be a good start for a bedding material.

Or, just buy some Marine Tex or Devcon.