What is Retro in Shooting

[Lowlight]

I have to write an article this week and the issue topic is retro

So I was thinking Databook is retro, maybe iron sights are retro,

What topic for Long Range and using Retro, would you like to read if you were so inclined to read it

Give me a Retro idear

 

[WhiskeyWebber]

MOA knobs and mildot reticle optics are retro

 

[Huskydriver]

Sand socks that were actually made from gi socks....

Shooting off of your spotter in a pinch....

Slings....



Wanna go contraversial ..... Moa is retro

 

[dirthead1]

Wood stocks, hinged floor plates, leather slings

 

[Olen_4504]

i was also gonna say

sand socks
moa
slings

was gonna throw in .308 to be silly

 

[Blue Sky Country]

 

[THEIS]

Hi,

A "retro" concept that is resurfacing could be a nice article...
Barrel "Tuners" seem to be coming into the PRS scene.

To go along with your current podcast series...
BC needs to be a retro concept.

A pure retro topic would be shooting slings for sure.

Sincerely,
Theis

 

[leftyk82]

LH and/or Gain twist
stocks made to look like wood
G1

 

[hlee]

"Legacy skills..."

 

[Lowlight]

I like Legacy Skills as a starting point and title

Then I can do Slings, back up irons, stuff like that

I would do barrel tuners I see them coming around but don't have enough experience with to create a complete topic

 

[Newbie2020]

Wood stocks for sure. He took mine. My beloved Leupold Vari-X II. 30-06. Kentucky windage. Weaver everything.

 

[armorpl8chikn]

"Moly"

 

[_Windrider_]

.308 is retro, in the context as still the primary military/LE "sniper" round.

So is the NFA, GCA .

 

[Lowlight]

How do you make a "wood stock article, unless you built one,

I have an article I am gonna upload from Nick G, he created his own wood stock

But just saying "Wood stock" come dudes, get a clue

 

[Red343]

Is Kentucky windage retro?
Now days with all the fancy wind gizmos and formulas.

 

[hlee]

When you get to gear selection, you can title that section "How to Crush it in Tac Division..."

 

[Arc Light]

USO Scopes?

Harris Bipods?

 

[hlee]

How to shoot without a tripod?
How to "mil" in mrad, and dial in MOA.
What to do when your reticle doesn't match your turrets.

 

[Lowlight]

Ah, lot of you guys suck worse at this then my writers block

I like the Legacy Skils as it opens the door for a broader conversation

 

[Maggot]

/beat me to it.

Marksmanship has come a long way but hasnt changed in its fundamentals...Sights, bore, trigger, magazines vs ...

 

[Alabusa]

Mil Dots and Duplex reticles are retro

 

[lash]

Wind calling without a Kestrel or wind meter.
Reading mirage.
Positional shooting.
Shooting sticks
Shooting using a tree/rock for support
Shooting off of a pack
Reticle ranging and the calculations needed without electronics

 

[BLKWLFK9]

Hi,

A "retro" concept that is resurfacing could be a nice article...
Barrel "Tuners" seem to be coming into the PRS scene.

To go along with your current podcast series...
BC needs to be a retro concept.

A pure retro topic would be shooting slings for sure.

Sincerely,
Theis

Low scope rings

 

[Lowlight]

How do you "write" retro with an old flintlock

Just repeating the fundamentals and talking the same way except with a different picture?

Trigger control, manipulation of the trigger without disturbing the lay of the sites,

It's not a picture book where you are just looking at pictures

 

[hlee]

Honestly, when I think "retro shooting," what comes to mind is my days walking through our deer lease when I was a kid. Remington 700, wood stock (270 win, but caliber doesn't really matter), leupold scope with duplex reticle- no bipod, no tripod, just a carry sling. Well, there's the target (a mature hill country white tail buck). What's the range- I don't have a range finder. What's the wind doing- no kestrel. Do I wing one out there off hand? What's the most stable position I can get into with what I have? Can I use the environment to get stable? Can I get closer? Can my reticle tell me something about the range and/or where to hold?

So, back to basics. No gadgets. No gamer plates. No game changer bags. No games. Shooter, rifle, target. Make the shot.

 

[deersniper]

Could do a retro build with a Remington 700p or ltr, add a leupold scope and a Harris bipod.

 

[Lowlight]

Remember this is just an 800 word column I have, it's not a feature article or project

it's a monthly guest column, so it has to be to the point, with less pictures, I get maybe 4

 

[remmynikon.308]

Is this competition based? Like the black powder silhouette shooting competitions could be the retro PRS

 

[hlee]

So, it is obvious that "retro" is vast, and means different things to different people. Who is the target audience for the magazine? Who is the target audience for the article? Who are YOU trying to reach with the article? Maybe start there...

 

[wh20crazy]

I've just started loading for my 1901 vintage 1894 Winchester chambered in .32 Winchester Special. Yes, that's a set trigger.

Is fun, but not as accurate as my 1885 high wall with a peep sight.

 

[Maggot]

How do you "write" retro with an old flintlock

Just repeating the fundamentals and talking the same way except with a different picture?

Trigger control, manipulation of the trigger without disturbing the lay of the sites,

It's not a picture book where you are just looking at pictures

It was jut off the top of whats left of my head but I would think discuss changes from the early firearms , how theyve affected shooting, accuracy, spped of repeat shots, etc. Seems like a world of things to discuss, with diagrams of early triggers vs Jewel. Regardless congrats on getting the opportunity.

W

 

[Lowlight]

I write for Gun Digest,

It's an older publication or older crowd in many cases

Shooting Positions: Variety Is The Spice Of Life

Get up! Mastering precision rifle marksmanship means mastering all shooting positions — not just prone.

gundigest.com

 

[Maggot]

So, it is obvious that "retro" is vast, and means different things to different people. Who is the target audience for the magazine? Who is the target audience for the article? Who are YOU trying to reach with the article? Maybe start there...

 

[_Windrider_]

I write for Gun Digest,

It's an older publication or older crowd in many cases

Shooting Positions: Variety Is The Spice Of Life

Get up! Mastering precision rifle marksmanship means mastering all shooting positions — not just prone.

gundigest.com

honestly and no sarcasm at all, that is the perfect audience to discuss why MOA is dead.

 

[Lowlight]

wrote two years ago

Mils vs. MOA: Which Is The Best Long-Range Language?

Mils and MOA are both useful angular units of measurements, but is one better than the other? Find out more about the essential long-range measurements.

gundigest.com

 

[THEIS]

Hi,

Fixed power optics.

Sincerely,
Theis

 

[_Windrider_]

wrote two years ago

Mils vs. MOA: Which Is The Best Long-Range Language?

Mils and MOA are both useful angular units of measurements, but is one better than the other? Find out more about the essential long-range measurements.

gundigest.com

well then. im no help at all as usual.

 

[JT505]

Retro 1000 yards, using a 10x optic, a .308 rifle, with 168/175's, in a 15 mph wind from 3 or 9 O'clock -- then going to a match with same rifle,,,
Fundamentals of positional shooting with that same rifle, slung up.
Retro location for your shooting thumb on a rifle stock, not on the side of it,,
Shooting with a hot barrel - before we had 'barrel coolers' buzzing on the firing line

 

[Bender]

Basic round mil reticle are retro

 

[Gunfighter14e2]

Legacy skill's,
Operating at night w/o night vision.
Ranging a target using irons with the front sight post
Ranging a target with nothing but a cross hair or ret post.
High angle shooting w/o modern aids.
Knowing your danger close range.
Radio operation w/o freq hopping, or encryption, ability.
Calling for support to a 8 digit coordinate, with nothing but a map & compass.
Land nav 10-12 weigh points at night, with nothing but a map & compass. Once in the correct FFP, finding the correct target with nothing but a range to target & compass azimuth.

 

[Downtown]

I began long range shooting when the standards were iron sites, shooting jackets, wind flags, and arm loop slings. That's what comes to mind when I think retro. All of these required "legacy" skills that are almost totally forgotten. Who even trains to use a 1907 sling anymore?

 

[hlee]

I write for Gun Digest,

It's an older publication or older crowd in many cases

Shooting Positions: Variety Is The Spice Of Life

Get up! Mastering precision rifle marksmanship means mastering all shooting positions — not just prone.

gundigest.com

I went and read that article and think it is a great jumping off point for an article for retro shooting. For example, before reading the article I was thinking something along the lines of "High level competitive shooting is the incubator where new ideas are tried, new gear is perfected, and where there is an ever evolving "arms race" between match directors and shooters over stage difficulty and "gaming the stage." In your article you wrote- "Thanks to the excellent training provided by the competition circuit, we recognize the tools and shooting positions to execute these shots under time and using various types of support. We have adapted bags and tripods to quickly and effectively engage targets from an alternative position with a high level of success." You also state that "I often tell people that if you wanted me to hike across varied terrain with the potential of targets of opportunity along the way, a single tripod would solve every problem I encounter. There’s a reason why I have invested more than $1,500 on a tripod. It works." I would argue that "retro" shooting is that which does not take advantage of those gear advancements that have been brought to us through the competitive shooting sports over the past 30-40 years. In many respects, a retro shooting article is the antithesis of the article you posted.

How would that article have been written in 1980?

 

[Greg Langelius *]

Garand - is not retro in my house.

 

[isofahunter]

Steel/Wood/Leather/Canvas. Leave the pack, the electronics and goodies behind and go shooting with what you can carry in your hands and pockets.

 

[oneshot86]

possible retro...
adjusting for cold bore
shooting w out detachable mags

 

[Powder_Burns]

mil-dot masters
loop/cuff sling support
duplex reticles

 

[PAYDIRT]

Licking your finger then touching your front sight?

 

[hlee]

For a different spin on "retro," how about "What was old is new." What ideas, concepts, gear, etc are thought to be new but are, in fact, really old but have become popular again after falling out of favor. For example, I was watching Forgotten Weapons this morning and learned that the Italian M91 Carcano (that's 1891) was made with a gain twist barrel...

 

[oneshot86]

front rifle support... shooting off pack vs bi pod
shooting from a tri[pod of sticks vs manfrotto

 

[Jack Master]

Straight up "range estimation" What was used, how it was used. What shooters did to deal with uncertainties (point blank Zero?) Sight types for range estimating (irons?, mildot). Was there any old Training for range estimation? Up hill down hill tricks?