Suppressors What is your Every Day Carry?

#54
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Kimber CDP modified by Boresight Solutions...I dont leave home without it

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#57
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Veer G</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Might I ask what they did to it? </div></div>

Match grade bushing and plug.
Barrel was re-crowned.
Full trigger job with all new Cylinder and Slide internals.
Conversion from series 80 to series 70.
Recoil assembly was converted from full length to USGI spec.
 
#59
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Colt 1911 full size in a crossdraw rig, Colt Defender in the strong side rig, Emerson CQ7 and 2 spare 8rd. mags.Cell phone, Surefire Executive Defender
 
#61
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Red_SC</div><div class="ubbcode-body">She looks a little rough around the edges, but she's a sweetheart.
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Like seeing a well used gun. Kimber Pro Carry in a VM2 for me.
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#64
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Glock 33 or Sig P229R in 357 sig
Spare mag(s)
Tucker/Garrett Silent Thunder STX holster
Speer Gold Dot 125 gr LP (53918)
Microtech Scarab
Surefire Outdoorsman LED
Droid 2 Phone


Chad
 
#65
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: dksd39</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Veer G</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Might I ask what they did to it? </div></div>

Match grade bushing and plug.
Barrel was re-crowned.
Full trigger job with all new Cylinder and Slide internals.
Conversion from series 80 to series 70.
Recoil assembly was converted from full length to USGI spec. </div></div>

Kimber has never used the Series 80 system.

Why did you remove a full length guide rod and install the GI system? I've owned both and I'd be interested in hearing any possible argument for the GI system over a FLGR.
 
#66
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Granted it's not all on my person but it all comes with me everyday..
Oh and if anyone is wondering bout the lock picks... I'm a property Manager not a thief
 
#68
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Downzero</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: dksd39</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Veer G</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Might I ask what they did to it? </div></div>

Match grade bushing and plug.
Barrel was re-crowned.
Full trigger job with all new Cylinder and Slide internals.
Conversion from series 80 to series 70.
Recoil assembly was converted from full length to USGI spec. </div></div>

Kimber has never used the Series 80 system.

Why did you remove a full length guide rod and install the GI system? I've owned both and I'd be interested in hearing any possible argument for the GI system over a FLGR. </div></div>

I don't know what his reasoning was, but I know LAV's contention was, that on a 5" gun, a full length guide rod could get a guy killed due to limiting options for a one handed malfunction clearance drill. The idea being that the low side of the muzzle could be jammed against a surface to chamber a round or clear a malfunction. In this case, I suspect its cheaper than changing out a rear sight for one that has a usable ledge to it.
 
#72
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Downzero</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Kimber has never used the Series 80 system.

Why did you remove a full length guide rod and install the GI system? I've owned both and I'd be interested in hearing any possible argument for the GI system over a FLGR. </div></div>

For the series conversion I guess I should be a bit more descriptive and should have stated "removal of firing pin safety" and as to why...because it was what I wanted.

As for the guide rod that too is personal preference as I do have other 1911's that are full length. There are people on both sides of the fence. Many high end 1911 builders that so many on this forum praise use the USGI system and just as many use full length. There are plenty of arguments that people from both sides present but at the end of the day it comes down to personal preference and what features one chooses. Many people never or hardly ever put their systems to use... much less hard use and for those that do I am sure opinions still very. I do use my gear and use it hard.

I am fortunate to be able to afford any system I choose. I have run it side by side with my $4500 custom as well as other factory offerings and can say it gives up very little to the finest and nothing to most. For the money (including the additional spent) it is in my opinion very hard to beat. So until I find something I like better I will continue to grab the Kimber when leaving my house.

 
#73
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: nw1911guy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
I don't know what his reasoning was, but I know LAV's contention was, that on a 5" gun, a full length guide rod could get a guy killed due to limiting options for a one handed malfunction clearance drill. The idea being that the low side of the muzzle could be jammed against a surface to chamber a round or clear a malfunction. In this case, I suspect its cheaper than changing out a rear sight for one that has a usable ledge to it. </div></div>

That's exactly what I've done on my everyday carry EMP. I use the 10-8 rear sight, which has a ledge just like you describe.
 
#74
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: dksd39</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
As for the guide rod that too is personal preference as I do have other 1911's that are full length. There are people on both sides of the fence. Many high end 1911 builders that so many on this forum praise use the USGI system and just as many use full length. There are plenty of arguments that people from both sides present but at the end of the day it comes down to personal preference and what features one chooses.
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I'm sorry to tell you, but whoever convinced you of this was full of complete and utter nonsense.

"Just as many" high end 1911 builders do not support the use of the USGI system. It is an objectively inferior system that reduces the life of the recoil spring and in many ways diminishes reliability.

A rational person may consider "both sides" of an argument, but the decision to forego something that is objectively superior in the name of "preference" is not a rational decision.

I really couldn't think of any strong arguments against a FLGR except, perhaps, weight, if applicable to the particular competition in which you're entering, but other than that, foregoing a part that increases reliability and service life is a really bad decision.

In my opinion, a gunsmith that recommends the USGI system for a pistol that may be used to save someone's life is incompetent. The recoil system is an absolutely critical functional part.

I think the press check/malfunction clearing question is important, too, and thus highly suggest that goes into the decision on rear sight.

I also think it's important not to have an adjustable rear sight on a fighting pistol, but as that doesn't really affect the actual function of the pistol, even that is secondary compared to the FLGR.

The USGI system served its purpose for a long time, but those days are behind us. Do yourself a favor and seriously reconsider the importance of installing a FLGR in your fighting pistol.
 
#75
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your opinion is just that...your opinion and as such everyone has their own. You can continue to enjoy your beloved Springfield or whatever and others like me will enjoy what we choose. Since you are not going to convince me of anything please feel free to email or call Nighthawk or Wilson or any of the others that choose to include a GI system in their lineup and see if they will entertain your inflated ego and indulge you with additional debate.
 
#77
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Graham</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It's nice to live in a country where we have options. Notice any theme occurring below?
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Well, I was gonna say "ridiculous looking lawyer-bling 1911s", but then you threw that STI in there. Have you no taste, man?
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#78
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Downzero</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> I'd be interested in hearing any possible argument for the GI system over a FLGR. </div></div>

The ability to disassemble without the need for tools or pins.

FLGR doesn't serve any purpose unless you have a bent spring.
 
#79
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Wallet, chapstick, Zippo, pack of Camels, pen, cell, SOG Twitch II, 4Sevens Quark 123-2, Kahr MK40 in a Durham Concealed Tech IWB, sometimes a spare mag in back pocket.

I dump it all on the table at the end of the day and think, "Why do I need all this shit?" Then I get up in the morning and do it again.
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#80
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RADcustom</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
FLGR doesn't serve any purpose unless you have a bent spring. </div></div>

This is demonstrably false by merely shooting the gun and observing the increase in spring wear from not using an FLGR.
 
#81
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Downzero</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RADcustom</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
FLGR doesn't serve any purpose unless you have a bent spring. </div></div>

This is demonstrably false by merely shooting the gun and observing the increase in spring wear from not using an FLGR. </div></div>

And how do YOU measure spring wear?
 
#82
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Downzero</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><span style="font-style: italic">In my opinion, a gunsmith that recommends the USGI system for a pistol that may be used to save someone's life is incompetent.
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Not to bust your chops, but I read that to mean you're implying LAV is incompetent.
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And figuring he used to be a very respected pistolsmith not to mention is a founder of IDPA and is currently an instructor with a not insignificant amount of operational experience in places where conditions were much worse than anything you or I may face, I tend to take his words for what they're worth.

Now, I agree with you totally on adjustable sights. Too much moving crap to break (not to mention easy to fillet soft flesh on....and hands have lots of soft flesh)

With all this said, I've typically used a FLGR in my gun when competing and usually use the GI system when carrying. The reason I use FLGRs for competition practice and competition is quite simply a very noticeable increase in the life of the recoil spring. I just prefer the GI system for the option of the malf clearance and simply because they seem to be less of a pain for me to disassemble. That's all. Except for the 2 piece units. Hate them with a passion because they usually also require a freakin hex wrench.

I could use the rear sight for malf clearance or single hand drills, but generally I've had either factory Kimber night sights or Heinie Slant Pros Stright 8s and didn't really want to change them out because of their lack of shelf. Thankfully many of the companies have gotten savvy to this technique and have added a shelf to their sights.

For most however, the guide rod debate is mute because most people don't hardly use their guns.
 
#84
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RADcustom</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I put guide rods in the same category with Allen head grip screws... Unnecessary. </div></div>

Allen head grips screws are a pain in the freakin butt however, you don't really need to remove the stocks unless you have the covered pin variety.
 
#85
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: nw1911guy</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RADcustom</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I put guide rods in the same category with Allen head grip screws... Unnecessary. </div></div>

Allen head grips screws are a pain in the freakin butt however, you don't really need to remove the stocks unless you have the covered pin variety. </div></div>

I forgot to add shok buff's to that list also.
 
#86
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I agree with you there. Shok-bufs are a liability.

They're also marketed by the aforementioned "founder" of IDPA and gunsmith.
 
#89
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Sgt. 0811</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
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Granted it's not all on my person but it all comes with me everyday..
Oh and if anyone is wondering bout the lock picks... I'm a property Manager not a thief</div></div>

Nah. You're just a douche that semi-surreptitiously flashes Franklins.
 
#90
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Valid point on ShokBuffs DZ, though I've always thought of them more for comp guns than defensive guns. And also created by someone who has never gone in harm's way for our country. I suspect they come from an earlier time when there was A LOT of experimenting going on with different loads that people probably wouldn't use in a Defensive Pistol. Lol

Rad, keep a log of the rounds you fire through the gun. And just compare the spring length at rest to a new one every couple hundred rounds or so. I typically replace them when they are noticeably collapsed, usually 2 coils. I also have a preference for Wolff 16lb variables. Nowadays I don't shoot as much as I used to. There was a time when I averaged 1000-1200 rds a month (I think Leatham does triple that-not sure how his joints take it)

I am, by no means, prescribing this for others, but this is what works for me.
 
#91
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: tullius</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Sgt. 0811</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
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Granted it's not all on my person but it all comes with me everyday..
Oh and if anyone is wondering bout the lock picks... I'm a property Manager not a thief</div></div>

Nah. You're just a douche that semi-surreptitiously flashes Franklins. </div></div>

Always always always carry cash... thats the point of that photo..
Not sayin Im not a douche... just sayin carry cash just in case
 
#92
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: tullius</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Sgt. 0811</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
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Granted it's not all on my person but it all comes with me everyday..
Oh and if anyone is wondering bout the lock picks... I'm a property Manager not a thief</div></div>

Nah. You're just a douche that semi-surreptitiously flashes Franklins. </div></div>


Them's Benjamins yo...
 
#93
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: nw1911guy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Rad, keep a log of the rounds you fire through the gun. And just compare the spring length at rest to a new one every couple hundred rounds or so. I typically replace them when they are noticeably collapsed, usually 2 coils. I also have a preference for Wolff 16lb variables. Nowadays I don't shoot as much as I used to. There was a time when I averaged 1000-1200 rds a month (I think Leatham does triple that-not sure how his joints take it)

I am, by no means, prescribing this for others, but this is what works for me. </div></div>

I don't deny that some spring settling occurs after installing a new spring. My question is, how do you determine a difference in the amount of wear on a spring used with a guide rod vs GI setup? hint: there isn't any.
 
#95
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Just curious as to what led other to the conclusion that there was a difference.

I thought this was a pretty strong statement that needed some fact to be valid.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'm sorry to tell you, but whoever convinced you of this was full of complete and utter nonsense.

"Just as many" high end 1911 builders do not support the use of the USGI system. It is an objectively inferior system that reduces the life of the recoil spring and in many ways diminishes reliability.

A rational person may consider "both sides" of an argument, but the decision to forego something that is objectively superior in the name of "preference" is not a rational decision.

I really couldn't think of any strong arguments against a FLGR except, perhaps, weight, if applicable to the particular competition in which you're entering, but other than that, foregoing a part that increases reliability and service life is a really bad decision.

In my opinion, a gunsmith that recommends the USGI system for a pistol that may be used to save someone's life is incompetent. The recoil system is an absolutely critical functional part.

I think the press check/malfunction clearing question is important, too, and thus highly suggest that goes into the decision on rear sight.

I also think it's important not to have an adjustable rear sight on a fighting pistol, but as that doesn't really affect the actual function of the pistol, even that is secondary compared to the FLGR.

The USGI system served its purpose for a long time, but those days are behind us. Do yourself a favor and seriously reconsider the importance of installing a FLGR in your fighting pistol. </div></div>


Wanting to know if there are some facts to back up what was said or if it's just BS that was heard or read. The silence leads me to believe the latter.



 
#99
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Well to get back on topic, I carry a LCP in the back pocket, spare mag, Fenix PD 20 light, SOG folder, wallet, keys, phone. Sometimes I pull the full size S&W M&P .40 out of the briefcase and wear it on a Crossbreed when I'm on the "good side" of town. As always the AR is in the truck.
 
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