I like the 357 Magnum. Admittedly, there are only six rounds, but they are very powerful.
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What pistol do you use for self-protection out in public?
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Y’all need to check out the G48
a lot thinner and reliable 15 round Mags available
a lot thinner and reliable 15 round Mags available
CZ P-07 Mainly - Concealed
CZ P-01 Occasionally - Concealed
CZ SP-01 - Open Carry
SIG P290RS - Deep Concealed
CZ P-01 Occasionally - Concealed
CZ SP-01 - Open Carry
SIG P290RS - Deep Concealed
G19.
Gen 3
Streamlight TL 7
Unless Im going somewhere on Colfax in Denver or Aurora.
Lev IV armor
AR
8 spare mags.
G19
3 spare mags
2 IFAKs
Helmet - IIIa
Hopefully 2-4 buddies with the same kit.
Gen 3
Streamlight TL 7
Unless Im going somewhere on Colfax in Denver or Aurora.
Lev IV armor
AR
8 spare mags.
G19
3 spare mags
2 IFAKs
Helmet - IIIa
Hopefully 2-4 buddies with the same kit.
That’s why I carry a .22
Handgun terminal performance is the same from .22 to 10mag to .44mag to .50ae
So pick the easiest to control one
This may have changed but the last I heard per the fbi statistics the 357 magnum with a 125gr bullet accounted for the most one shot stops.
Estwing.
Full size for open carry. Compact for days that need concealment.
I also have an ultra-compact, but it's put away right now.
Full size for open carry. Compact for days that need concealment.
I also have an ultra-compact, but it's put away right now.
Summer usually a hellcat, sometimes the Glock 19 or cz p10c
Winter usually Glock 19 or cz p10c sometimes the hellcat
Winter usually Glock 19 or cz p10c sometimes the hellcat
Modern ballistics science goes deeper than that ultra-shallow analysis.
I have what it likely one of the best all around CCW revolvers of all time: a 3" Model 65. It's been sitting collecting dust in my gun room for over five years.
I expected nothing less than a stupid comment from you
Tissue destruction is virtually the same for all standard handgun self defense cartridges regardless of bore size.
For the idiots in the room like you, standard means normal stuff like 38 special, 357 mag, 9x19 40 S&W, 45 ACP.
Are you a coroner or the like? If not stop talking about what you don’t know. Stay in your lane. I only want to hear from those who are qualified to speak on a subject.
Sound familiar? It should. I’ve seem it from you many times.
Have you ever killed anything ?
A .22 velocitor versus a standard velocity makes a giant difference. The difference between running off and a lot of one stop drops
Let alone 9mm versus .44 mag.
Podbyrin 9.2 is most powerful handgun in world.
I likea .380 in either LCP Max or 365. I carry in a sticky in my suit pocket, so I need a gun that disappears. I'm also too lazy to fuck around with holsers and belts all the time. The only problem with the way I carry is that I forget I have it all the time.
To me it's pass/fail. Do you have a gun or not? You may think you're ahead of the game with magnums, or hi cap mags, reloads, etc. but that's all millimeters compared to the pass/fail test.
To me it's pass/fail. Do you have a gun or not? You may think you're ahead of the game with magnums, or hi cap mags, reloads, etc. but that's all millimeters compared to the pass/fail test.
Please continue on with your stupid comparisons of cartridges no on uses for CCW
Why Ballistics Gel Works and Caliber Arguments are Dumb - Lucky Gunner Lounge
An explanation about what ballistics gel is and why it's a useful tool when measuring the effectiveness of self-defense ammo.
www.luckygunner.com
I tend to agree with this - I saw a separate YouTube video where someone else (if I remember right) was interviewing 2 guys from Speer (possibly these same 2 guys), and it was the same consensus just in video form instead of written. Pistols are pistols, rifles are rifles.
Also, one big rule of a gunfight - "He who runs out of bullets first loses".
Highlights for those who don't want to read the whole thing:
"Federal and their sister companies CCI and Speer do a lot of things really well, but they are especially well-known for their self-defense ammo. Speer Gold Dot and Federal HST have developed a reputation as the standard by which all other self-defense ammo is measured.
A couple of the guys who are partly responsible for maintaining that reputation are Chris Laack and Johann Boden. Chris is the Product Line Manager for Federal, CCI, and Speer handgun ammo and Johann is the Technical Lead for Federal and Speer’s law enforcement division."
"JB: [...] human tissue, by and large, has a certain elasticity threshold. Which really means when a handgun bullet, or a projectile at handgun velocities, hits human tissue, we display, very briefly, too fast for the human eye to see, the so-called temporary wound cavity. We’re made up largely of water, an incompressible substance. In other words, that water gets out of the way of that bullet screaming in on impact. We have that large temporary cavity and because we are elastic by nature we recover from that. Our tissue recovers, comes back together and what’s left is a permanent wound cavity, namely the crushing path that that bullet took through us.
This temporary wound cavity as we expand and recover is different when projectiles hit at greater than 2200 feet per second. At that point, it appears we have surpassed the elasticity capability of human tissue and that temporary wound cavity begins tearing at its limits and margins and becomes a permanent wound cavity, which also is a conclusion why people who are center-punched with rifle projectiles typically succumb much quicker than people who are hit with handgun projectiles. [...]"
"JB: [...]You know, you take, for example, a .44 Magnum, which is a 240-grain projectile coming in the neighborhood of 1400 feet per second. Is that significantly more than, say, a 180-grain projectile at 950 feet per second, your typical .40 cal? Yes, it’s a big difference but it does not seem to translate out into a corresponding amount of damage in a human organism. [...] However, at the same time, you launch that little bitty 55-grain pill coming out of an AR-15 at two and a half times the speed of sound and it hits and you see that a radical planar tearing where you have tissue damage five or six inches away from the path of the bullet. That’s what creates that a rapid hemorrhage, the blood pressure drop, the shock setting in, tissue disruption, hopefully in the right location, cardiopulmonary collapse, and things cease, lights go out. And that really seems to be concurrent with the 2,200 feet per second that was discovered by the FBI."
"CL: The idea that you need velocity, you have to push it fast to get a bullet to do a certain thing. We really have known that that wasn’t the case since the 80s. We can make, with this modern technology, a bullet do just about anything we want it to do. So it’s really, find a bullet that works really well and don’t get hung up on lots of numbers and other stuff and muzzle energy and all the other things. We can make a bullet do what it needs to do without depending on that stuff. And then don’t get hung up on calibers. If you shoot a .45 better than you shoot a nine carry a .45. There is no incremental gain you get moving up to a higher caliber that is going to overshadow your ability to shoot a smaller caliber better."
"JB: You know, most of us who are “gun people” have been in never ending discussions and forums and reading hundreds of articles about how much better this caliber is versus that caliber and the venerable this over the not so venerable that. And, you know, I just wish that we could get the message out a little bit better that handguns are handguns. You know, if it’s a .44 or .357 or a .41, it really doesn’t matter. They are all somewhat feeble given the potential danger that a human being can present."
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This has shill/bot written all over it.
I understand your sarcasm and apparent beef with 308pirate in saying this, but...
Not that I would advocate a 22LR of any sort as someone's primary carry weapon, especially if they are more than capable of carrying and handling at least a 380 or 9mm, but I've yet to find any willing volunteers to act as real life guinea pigs to prove the supposed inefficacy of the 22LR as a potential self defense cartridge.
It's really strange...seems like people, in general, would rather be shot by nothing at all.
Anyone besides Jack Wilson who believes in 1 shot stops should go back to class.
As to .22 vs a normal CCW cartridge it aint even close.
@wade2big - not a coroner and see A LOTTA GSWs with most from .22- .45 acp except .44 mag.
It is my lane. Literally.
All said, still looking for a nuke or an F15.
As to .22 vs a normal CCW cartridge it aint even close.
@wade2big - not a coroner and see A LOTTA GSWs with most from .22- .45 acp except .44 mag.
It is my lane. Literally.
All said, still looking for a nuke or an F15.
Hellcat w/ RDS. The mini RDS changed everything for me. The Hellcat more than doubled my capacity from previous CCW. I used to carry a 1911 or my LCP. The Hellcat is almost as easy to carry as the LCP.
Anyone need .45ACP ammo? I have too much.
Anyone need .45ACP ammo? I have too much.
If you carry small guns and are worried about the FBI penetration standard just load FMJs. They will give you an exit wound.
In my boomer based carry rotation, I have a Jeff Cooper approved Colt Officers 1911, in 45ACP of course. In the mag I stagger 230 grain ball and 200 grain flying ashtrays, just in case I need expansion or penetration.
The nickel plated Government gets the nod as my BBQ gun, and I open carry it in a sharkskin Askins avenger.
There is also a Keltec P32 for Walmart trips when I'm in sweat pants, makes a nice bulge for the ladies.
The nickel plated Government gets the nod as my BBQ gun, and I open carry it in a sharkskin Askins avenger.
There is also a Keltec P32 for Walmart trips when I'm in sweat pants, makes a nice bulge for the ladies.
Man you fuckin boomers need more Gucci Glocks.
Battleworn cerakote applied entirely too thick, comp, lighter recoil spring, and an optics cut with a Holosun gets you max street cred. Don’t forget the Tac light and to point that bitch right at your dick.
Battleworn cerakote applied entirely too thick, comp, lighter recoil spring, and an optics cut with a Holosun gets you max street cred. Don’t forget the Tac light and to point that bitch right at your dick.
Your not supposed to talk about underwear hammer fight club.
I understand that. I'm just repeating the same bullshit the man I quoted tells people all the time. Pointing out his hypocrisy and double standards.Anyone besides Jack Wilson who believes in 1 shot stops should go back to class.
As to .22 vs a normal CCW cartridge it aint even close.
@wade2big - not a coroner and see A LOTTA GSWs with most from .22- .45 acp except .44 mag.
It is my lane. Literally.
All said, still looking for a nuke or an F15.
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