Yesterday I went and took possession of my first 2 suppressors. 383 days from purchase, 344 from the day my CC cleared at the ATF! I bought a .30 cal and a .22RF. I owned no threaded .22's so while waiting I bought a Ruger MKIV SS Target pistol and a Ruger American target rifle. I was heading out to the farm to mow yesterday so took both guns along, went and picked up the suppressors and thought I've give them a try. The MKIV seemed to quiet down quite a bit, seemed like the sound was cut down 1/3 to 1/2 maybe with standard ammo. However, the rifle was different. I can't tell a bit of difference between suppressed/unsuppressed. Nothing. What gives?? Why no difference on the long gun? I expected a lot more than this. Thanks. Greg
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Suppressors What SHOULD my expectations be?
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Did you shoot the rifle suppressed and then take the can off and shoot it again right after or are you just going off memory how the rifle sounds? It's not going to be crazy quiet like your .22 since you are likely shooting supersonic ammo, but it should cut the sound down significantly. If you want something extremely quiet get a bolt action 300 BLK and shoot subsonic or a .22 rifle. A .22 rifle will be significantly quieter than a pistol, especially comparing a bolt action rifle to a semi-auto pistol.
You all seem to be missing my point. The pistol was VERY noticable. The rifle on the other hand should have (in theory) shown more difference. It didn't. Neither me or a friend couldn't see (hear) any difference. Just wondering why?
There are two aspects at play, one is the supersonic crack and theres nothing you can do about that besides slowing the bullet down to subsonic.
The second is the expansion of gasses coming out of the barrel, the silencer provides a premature expansion chamber that slows down the release of pressure so its more of a pfff than a POP.
I find it really hard to believe that you find the unsupressed shot every bit as ear ringing as the bare muzzle. What can? Provide some specifics.
The second is the expansion of gasses coming out of the barrel, the silencer provides a premature expansion chamber that slows down the release of pressure so its more of a pfff than a POP.
I find it really hard to believe that you find the unsupressed shot every bit as ear ringing as the bare muzzle. What can? Provide some specifics.
All right, I understand THAT explanation. It threw me because I fully expected the rifle to show some kind of suppression. It didn't (I knew it wasn't going to go "fffft" like in the movies LOL) and it was surprising that the pistol did. Just a quick test yesterday, I've got some subsonic to try when I get time. Thank you.
If you are shooting near a wall or ceiling, the reflections of the sonic boom will be super loud.
I'm assuming you were using the same 22lr ammo in both the pistol and rifle. If so, you're ammo is going supersonic in the rifle while staying subsonic in the pistol due to the shorter barrel. Get yourself some decent subsonic ammo and try again.
What model cans did you purchase?
What model cans did you purchase?
I fully realize that subsonic is the ticket, obviously. The last suppressor I shot was a .17 fireball/.223 suppressor that sounded like a .22 mag. Obvious difference in suppressed/unsuppressed. I expected to hear "somewhat" the same difference.
You should definitely hear a difference shooting suppressed/unsuppressed, even with a rifle. What suppressor are you using? I've seen it asked a few times but I haven't seen a response, my apologies if I missed it. The supersonic 'crack' won't disappear, but everything else should be a lot quieter.
When I shoot a rifle unprotected I don’t notice just how loud it is in the moment, it’s usually afterwords that my head hurts, my ears are ringing etc. in the moment it’s hard to perceive how much sound you just experienced.
When I shoot my rifle suppressed it’s loud, but it’s different, and while I can tell it’s not as loud, the biggest difference is how I don’t feel like shit later.
This is all considering it’s a bolt gun, if it’s a semi auto you’re still dumping a ton of sound right at your ear through the ejection port.
When I shoot my rifle suppressed it’s loud, but it’s different, and while I can tell it’s not as loud, the biggest difference is how I don’t feel like shit later.
This is all considering it’s a bolt gun, if it’s a semi auto you’re still dumping a ton of sound right at your ear through the ejection port.
Same thing as all the other new guys: come in complaining and offer zero actual data to help problem solve.
In the 22, shoot cci standard velocity @ 1050 fps ish it probably will not pop sonic. Certainly not in a pistol and not in most rifles, there are some weather conditions that effect that bit splitting hairs. All you should hear is slide slamming shut and impact with that ammo, I have a mk3 pistol and a 16 inch ruger both will not wake a dog with my sparrow can and that ammo.
What ever other cal you are shooting in the 30 cal can, if it's super you will hear it. I shoot 300 blk 220gr subs in a 16 inch barrel that is movie quiet as well.
Wish I could convert a video from my phone to load on the hide.
What ever other cal you are shooting in the 30 cal can, if it's super you will hear it. I shoot 300 blk 220gr subs in a 16 inch barrel that is movie quiet as well.
Wish I could convert a video from my phone to load on the hide.
Well, I'm puzzled by the OP's experience. I run suppressors on every rifle I have, rimfire to large bore and there is a significant sound reduction on all of them. Rimfire, meh............quiet of course. Everything else noticeably reduced, at least half by perception (as I don't have a DB meter to determine actual effect.) Semi-auto's I can clearly pick up the sound of cycling, spring noise, etc. that you can't hear unsuppressed. Of course, there is no reduction like Hollywood unless you are running subsonic ammo.
For the love of god, why are you ignoring all of the questions?
Do you want a real answer, or to just speculate? Here they are again:
1. What make / model suppressor?
2. Are you shooting in the wide-open, or near / under some hard wall / roof?
3. Did you actually shoot the rifle both suppressed and unsuppressed back to back?
If the rifle really doesn't sound any different suppressed, then your can is busted. Maybe they forgot to put the baffle stack in.
Do you want a real answer, or to just speculate? Here they are again:
1. What make / model suppressor?
2. Are you shooting in the wide-open, or near / under some hard wall / roof?
3. Did you actually shoot the rifle both suppressed and unsuppressed back to back?
If the rifle really doesn't sound any different suppressed, then your can is busted. Maybe they forgot to put the baffle stack in.
For the love of God, you think that's all I've got to do is spank it all day in front of the computer?? Good Lord I've got shit to do! Both you and Spife need to take your medication!
First off, NO complaining! Just a question of why the difference? Gasgun gave a pretty good answer without the bullshit. I've still got more testing, that's why I wondered what my expectations should be. As far as the suppressor, Rebel SOS V2. Wide open spaces. Of course we shot it back to back, that's why we didn't think there was any difference. Wow, didn't realize I asked the $64,000 question that needed to solved in 10 min., LOL! Intense!
Considering the amount of effort it took to get you to name the suppressor model I kinda had a feeling is was going to be a cheap POS. I was right.
There's really no reason to get so defensive. People were trying to help answer your questions, but it was like pulling teeth getting you to provide the info needed to do that.
There's really no reason to get so defensive. People were trying to help answer your questions, but it was like pulling teeth getting you to provide the info needed to do that.
Are you saying that the 22 can was noticeable on a 22 semi pistol and a 22 bolt rifle was less of a difference? If so then yeah, I can believe that. Good 22 ammo is alreay subsonic and quiet on its own, the longer barrels only move that sound even further away.
That begs the question of “why mention the 30 cal can at all?”
We all thought you were talking about the 30 cal can not being very different. Effective communication is more effective than vague unspecific questions.
That begs the question of “why mention the 30 cal can at all?”
We all thought you were talking about the 30 cal can not being very different. Effective communication is more effective than vague unspecific questions.
Reading comprehension makes everything more effective too. I stated the MKIV which is a .22 pistol and certainly wouldn't compare a .22 pistol with a .30 caliber rifle.
Cheap POS or not, I'ts my piece of shit, I'm still wondering why the difference.
Now. I'm logging off and won't be here until probably Friday so please don't be upset if I don't immediately answer!
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Well, you did reply 3 times without answering any of the questions posed...
When something doesn't seem right we go into troubleshooting mode, and isolation questions ensue.
Cheap can or not, assuming your hearing is reasonably normal, that is not right. I would seriously look inside with a flashlight and see if there are any baffles in it. If so, I'm baffled
I wonder if the OP tested the 22 can with earpro still on?
We have 22, 223, 30 cal, 45, and 9mm.
Have and do shoot subs through all without need of any earpro.
The bolt guns are movie quiet.
The 22 semis are same as releasing the bolt not much else.
Several have passed the sleeping dog test when available. Wife caught us testing ammo out of the kitchen window.
Maybe the OP got a defective can?
Possible bad ammo decision, environment will effect ammo on the edge of super.
Maybe he made a poor decision on manufacturers.
Getting sideways with people trying to help?
We have 22, 223, 30 cal, 45, and 9mm.
Have and do shoot subs through all without need of any earpro.
The bolt guns are movie quiet.
The 22 semis are same as releasing the bolt not much else.
Several have passed the sleeping dog test when available. Wife caught us testing ammo out of the kitchen window.
Maybe the OP got a defective can?
Possible bad ammo decision, environment will effect ammo on the edge of super.
Maybe he made a poor decision on manufacturers.
Getting sideways with people trying to help?
The only thing that needs to be suppressed here is the attitude.
Everyone knows suppressor expectations are as follows
1. You wait a long fucking time
2. People will come up to you while shooting and go "Ooooh" and "Ahhhh"
3. Chicks will think you're sexy for shooting suppressed.
4. You will never buy just one.
Everyone knows suppressor expectations are as follows
1. You wait a long fucking time
2. People will come up to you while shooting and go "Ooooh" and "Ahhhh"
3. Chicks will think you're sexy for shooting suppressed.
4. You will never buy just one.
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