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What's the deal with "Aid to Ukraine?"

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  • Apr 8, 2021
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    Recently, I've seen a lot of our fellow "Bear Pitters" kvetch a lot about all the $$$ going to aid The Ukraine. Just so that I confirm my understanding of the issues, I have a couple of questions:

    1) Main concern - Is the issue that we should be spending those $$$ for US concerns and not "foreign" ones (i.e. "America First"), or is it deeper than that?

    2) Why did the Biden Administration put so much of our $$$ into Ukraine spending? Were they getting some kind of Payola/Graft in return? Was Hunter getting his "10% for the 'Big Guy' or something?" Were they counting on USA based Ukrainians to help them win in an election? Or, perhaps, was it simply to support a group of people that opposed Putin & the Russians? I guess I just can't wrap my head around why the Biden clan was so adamant about sending all our $$$ over there. How did it benefit them?
     
    this is my understandings. i am sure our resident Z funded Z lovers will correct any errors.
    1) nobody knows exactly how much in cash,mil gear,humanitarian aid has been sent. there has been no bragging about humanitarian aid so not sure. that would have been bragged on if it was a big #. no accounting for $ out,$ received has been provided to my knowledge.
    2) the rumors abound that a lot of it was outdated arty etc-no real info on that. again,a claim is that we have emptied out a lot of our stockpiles and are running low. no listing of what was sent is public as far as i know.
    3) there has been a lot of intel and space based targeting info sent. this is not free work. this has not been denied.
    3) it is well known and admitted that the US is paying the salaries and retirement of the Ukrainian bureaucracy.
    4) it is well known that Zelinsky and several of his cronies and his wife have bought lg real estate holdings. she is known to have bought at least 1 very expensive car. no real $ #s on most of this.
    5) some evidence has been claimed that for that much of the mil gear sent has been sold to 3rd parties. mex drug cartels have been mentioned. for sure no receipts coming from that.
    6) it would seem that a lot of aid to Ukraine is being channeled back to US weapons builders. this has been admitted by officials of our gov.
    the fact is nobody seem to have much of a clue how much,when,where any of it went. #s thrown around go to 60 billion $s but nothing has been really determined re totals.
    the reasons or justifications it was sent are argued all over the place and on here a lot.
     
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    About 40% of the money earmarked for Ukraine was for actual weapons. Those weapons are made in the US.

    So the 40% of the aid was actually a back door way to pump money into the economy with out “printing” money ..causing less inflation.

    It was another way Biden admin could say it’s creating jobs etc, but in reality it was another stimulus package.

    The other 50%+ it’s prob a mix of payoffs and waste as always..we’ll never find out.