Wheels coming off Assad regime

Personally I've grown weary of my tax dollars being burned on semetic wars for desert cults in the middle east.

I’d be OK with establishing a quarantine line around the whole bunch of them.

Allow nothing and nobody out.

Allow nothing in except weapons and ammunition. I mean nothing. If it doesn’t shoot or go boom, it doesn’t get in.

Problem solves itself in a few weeks. We can buy oil from whoever’s left.

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Come on Guys I just want inclusivity... Ex ISIS, Ex Al Nursra now HTS rebel wants inclusivity. Sounds like he is trying to spread Democracy.

I normally would not post CNN posts but... They interviewed Abu Jolani.
 
Our foreign adventurism, in which we devastate countries, topple governments, and kill and wound millions, are why large factions of the Middle East hates us.

Our policies have wrecked so much havoc in the region. Not that they would be amazing countries without our involvement, but we definitely paint a giant target on our backs.

This modern day neoliberalism/neocon worldview of foreign policy, largely shaped by Kagan and Frum's "A Project for a New American Century" has been an absolute disaster.

I would not be surprised if in the near future we bear the fruits of these actions in places like Syria, Georgia, Ukraine, et al through what the CIA calls "blow back".
This recent escalation. Is it Turkey trying to re live the glory days of the Ottoman Empire.
Maybe Turkey is, but we are trying to relive the glory days of the Roman Empire

Auferre, trucidare, rapere, falsis nominibus imperium, atque, ubi solitudinem faciunt, pacem appellant.
They plunder, they slaughter, and they steal: this they falsely name Empire, and where they make a wasteland, they call it peace.

the empire always falls in the end. And I'm not to happy that me and my kids will pay that price, incurred by those responsible who are benefitting from all this right now.
 
Maybe Turkey is
100% Turkey is.


Since 2016, Turkey has put well-tailored, adaptive and effective arrangements in place with different categories of Syrian armed opposition groups. The SNA has been instrumental in the realisation of Turkey’s buffer zone strategy as a core irregular force under almost full Turkish control via the provision of training and equipment, salary payments and the creation of new organisational structures. No longer a fragmented and decentralised proxy, the SNA is becoming an integrated, although irregular, element of the Turkish army. In terms of policy objectives, SNA forces greatly facilitated the realisation of two semi-autonomous Turkish protectorates in Afrin and around the Azaz-Jarabulus corridor (west of the Euphrates) and a new buffer zone between Tell Abyad en Ras al-Ayn (east of the Euphrates).[63]

In respect of the NLF, Turkey developed a lighter version of the same control-through-centralisation approach. Its first phase (2018) sought to merge NLF and FSA groups in Idlib, but this was only partially successful due to differences between these groups and suffered setbacks due to clashes between HTS and NLF. The second phase of Turkey’s approach (2019) ended up uniting SNA and NLF forces under Turkish command. While Turkey could not establish SNA-type levels of control during the first phase, it nevertheless established an influential client-proxy relationship with the NLF by offering its groups a rear base, having them participate in Turkish operations in Afrin and in the Azaz-Jarabulus corridor, and providing them with equipment, training and salaries.

Since their unification with the SNA, the former NLF groups Faylaq al-Sham and Jaysh al‍-‍Ahrar have been involved in Turkey’s recent ‘Peace Springs’ incursion east of the Euphrates River.[64] In terms of policy objectives, the NLF helped expand Turkish influence in Idlib, counterbalanced Salafi jihadist groups in the area, and strengthened Turkey’s proxy forces against the YPG.

Although Turkey’s approach encountered strong resistance from HTS that initially led to the defeat of Turkey-aligned NLF forces, Turkey managed to overcome this setback by switching to a divide-and-rule approach that saw the more pragmatic HTS factions emerge dominant from the group’s internal power struggles. Figure 1 below provides a summary overview of key relations between Turkey and various sets of Syrian armed opposition groups over the course of the civil war. It does not aspire to be fully inclusive of all developments – there are simply too many – but captures key shifts and relations.

On the upside, Turkey’s collaboration with HTS (covert cooperation with pragmatic elements), NLF (ideological partnership) and SNA (centralised control) have strengthened the Turkish military position in Idlib, improved its negotiation position regarding the future of the province, and created a fighting coalition against the PYD. The downside of these different forms of collaboration between Turkey and Syrian opposition groups has been that they have reduced Turkey’s strategic credibility with Russia, maintained HTS as a (partially) Al-Qaeda-linked international terrorist group and created strong links between Turkey and range of Syrian Islamist armed groups, in part Salafi, that may present Turkey with a domestic security challenge in the medium-term.

Key variables that have influenced the effectiveness of Turkey’s engagement with different armed Syrian opposition groups include: a) the possibility of obtaining influence by providing significant material support, such as training, salaries and equipment; b) the extent to which it could partner such groups with its own military (e.g. shared culture, perceived enemy and ideology); c) the level of centralised control it was able to achieve; d) geographic proximity; and e) clever divide-and-rule tactics, which, alongside relative neglect of ideological differences, proved useful in tipping these variables in Turkey’s favour.
, but we are trying to relive the glory days of the Roman Empire
So are the British,French, Germans, Russians, Chinese, Iranians(persians) etc etc ad nausea.

Point is this recent move and the one Prior(first push to take out assad) has Mostly come out of Turkey, the US is a player in it but not the main player. Others are more involved. We are holding out east of the Euphrates, blocking weapons flowing from Iran through Iraq and backing the Kurds. Wanna direct dis content for what is going on here there are more countries more involved than the US here.
 
Had a change of heart from his ISIS days , why can't you take him off the Terror list

Its not difficoult if you have $$ , Bolton, Graham and co hold paid speeches to at delisted terror group rallies, MEK which paid its way off the terror list by lubricating US congressmen

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And Assad did not know this? We all knew this!

Places the US in a quandry. Support Assad, Iran, Russia and save the Cristians. Or support the rebels to fuck Iran and Russia but lose the Christians.

If you choose option B. then you and all your children and families better never whine and complain about why do the crazy Muslims want to kill us and can't just live in peace. Because the answer will be that YOU paid for the crazies to kill all the Christians and moderates and tolerant types so that only Crazies were left and well everyone knows you were behind it...
 
If you choose option B. then you and all your children and families better never whine and complain about why do the crazy Muslims want to kill us and can't just live in peace. Because the answer will be that YOU paid for the crazies to kill all the Christians and moderates and tolerant types so that only Crazies were left and well everyone knows you were behind it...

People seem absolutely clueless as to why 9/11 happened.

It's exactly because of shit like this. Us training and arming radicals to carry out regime change operations in the ME.
 
People seem absolutely clueless as to why 9/11 happened.

It's exactly because of shit like this. Us training and arming radicals to carry out regime change operations in the ME.

I'll bet most folks don't remember today that the guy who supposedly was the "mastermind and command" behind 9/11 was, you know our own guy, you know the guy we trained, armed, funded and supported to help overthrow governments, the guy we were once giving like a billion dollars of weapons to...

Folks probably don't remember that the same guy's original target was actually the tyrants ruling in Saudia Arabia... Lucky for them "something" "changed his mind" about who was to be targeted.

Or so the story goes...
 
And Assad did not know this? We all knew this!

Places the US in a quandry. Support Assad, Iran, Russia and save the Cristians. Or support the rebels to fuck Iran and Russia but lose the Christians.
Liberals hate all Christians. Satanists know there is a god. They do not want Christians waking up the NPCs.
 
Had a change of heart from his ISIS days , why can't you take him off the Terror list

Its not difficoult if you have $$ , Bolton, Graham and co hold paid speeches to at delisted terror group rallies, MEK which paid its way off the terror list by lubricating US congressmen

GeLE0rVWYAAls0M


GeIhYZkaYAAhCtt
Leopards can't change their spots but a terrorist can change his clothes, doesn't mean he's changed who he is inside. I believe his "change" is so he can live out in the open, without a U.S. drone dropping an explosive on his head.
 
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Some background speculation to the spectacularly fast fall of the Assad regime

I believe that the key reason for the collapse of the Syrian army after the conflict was frozen due to Assad's failed reforms. In the face of economic problems following US occupation of oil and wheat fields combined with CESAR act sanctions, traditional sources of income got supplemented by mass production of synthetic drug Captagon, turning state business into pseudo drug cartel , low on funds Assad got a bright idea to "optimize" size of the millitary, while also cutting their salaries. He replaced almost the entire army command staff with "his" people , who thus received carte blanche for any corruption, extortion and theft of soldiers' salaries. There were reports that the salaries of Syrian soldiers were reduced to $30, and some began to receive it in the form of groceries and other products. Many veterans left the army, unable to feed their families. What was left, folks who were unable or unwilling to find a better job.
This is a fatal mistake, mercenary armies run on $$ . The Syrian army was made up mostly of Sunni Arabs from various tribes, for whom the rule of the Alawite Assad was tolerated only for good money, and the interests of the Syrian nation always came second to interests of the tribe .
Popular and capable commanders like Suheil al-Hassan , were seen as a threat and marginalized post 'victory' , assigned to command small units that couldn't threaten a Coup.
Iranian and Russian support ,was rather hands off ,never took the form in which they would actually puppeteer Assad , also aside from military backing neither Iran nor Russia invested much into keeping Syria economically afloat. Aside from some oil and wheat, there were no bags of cash being flown in to pay the salaries.
Israel kneecaped Hezbollah quite effectively, taking it off the board as a fighting force in Syria as well as grinding down both Iranian and Syrian militias with years of Airstrikes , Russian military presence in Syria is at minimal levels ,given pressing needs on a home front. Iran has it own issues and US control over border crossings prevents move of large numbers of men and equipment across borders . So the IRGC expeditionary corps for Syria is a limited officer cadre commanding some Afghans (Iranians have an outsized Afghan refugee population, that is the main source of cannon fodder for Syria,IRGC own personel footprint is extremely small ),Iranian backed Iraqi PMUs that could muster men and firepower, are held from intervening by US forces holding the border crossings.

End of the day we will see if Syria falls completely or fractures along tribal lines, in couple of days when euphoria cools of Jihadis will face pressure to pay salaries of all the turncoats that are now welcoming them, so now the question is just is Biden going to start flying pallets of cash to finance this or will they ask GCC arabs to do that , as otherwise, DEI jihadis might soon find out that without a massive infusion of $$$ DEI will end up at gunpoint, every one for himself and his tribe Mad Max style
Israel is already eying annexing south of Syria.


As for Assad and Loyalists i imagine they moved to Latakia and Tartus leaving Damascus. Where their Tribes are dominant.
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I do remember it, but iirc it’s under the British flag, so there’s that. Could be wrong with that though. But in the middle of nowhere for sure.
The Australian government kind of treats them like a colony.
As far as the British flag, my mistake.

Sounds like more biden crap. Break the law, and the children are forgiven. Bet if we jumped a British ship, put the rest of the crew in lifeboats, basically in the middle of the ocean, found us an island and sank the ship, the Brit’s would not be to thrilled to give us a pardon and treat us like loving children.
 
Kinda like Iraq…Sadam was a bad, evil, motherfucker. No doubt; but…..he kept that place together even with a heavy hand. Suni/Shia managed to live in one country. I also seem to recall Christians and Jews lived in Iraq as well. Then…we stuck our nose where it wasn’t supposed to be…sold to us by the “respectable” Colin Powell.

Assad…..very bad person….evil,chem weapons, etc, etc. But…..now…what are we going to get? Is this Afghanistan 1999-2001 again? Stay the heck out unless they start lobbing shit this way and killing Americans. Then…deal accordingly with white light. We’re not going to “fix” 2000 years of tribalism overnight and need to let them fix their own damn problems for once.
 
Kinda like Iraq…Sadam was a bad, evil, motherfucker. No doubt; but…..he kept that place together even with a heavy hand. Suni/Shia managed to live in one country. I also seem to recall Christians and Jews lived in Iraq as well. Then…we stuck our nose where it wasn’t supposed to be…sold to us by the “respectable” Colin Powell.

Assad…..very bad person….evil,chem weapons, etc, etc. But…..now…what are we going to get? Is this Afghanistan 1999-2001 again? Stay the heck out unless they start lobbing shit this way and killing Americans. Then…deal accordingly with white light. We’re not going to “fix” 2000 years of tribalism overnight and need to let them fix their own damn problems for once.

FYI, the Assad chem weapon attack appears to have been a false flag to give the west pretext to invade. Likely another CIA sponsored event.
 
$$$$$
Assad needed money to stay in power and the military of the USA was "protecting" the oil. His major source of money. Now that his regime has fallen that source of money is going to be a target. There's going to be a struggle for control of the ash heap but once established they are going to need money to remain in power.
They sure are leaving a very large shit sandwich for Trump. Remember all the Pravda saying that Trump was going to get us into a war? Then there was nothing but peace during his first term. They have really stirred up the shit around the globe and it will all be Trump's fault. The middle east is a mess in multiple places. South Korea is a wreck. Taiwan is a pressure cooker along with several other places.
And now you know why they didn't assist Kamala in stealing another election.
 
Some background speculation to the spectacularly fast fall of the Assad regime

I believe that the key reason for the collapse of the Syrian army after the conflict was frozen due to Assad's failed reforms. In the face of economic problems following US occupation of oil and wheat fields combined with CESAR act sanctions, traditional sources of income got supplemented by mass production of synthetic drug Captagon, turning state business into pseudo drug cartel , low on funds Assad got a bright idea to "optimize" size of the millitary, while also cutting their salaries. He replaced almost the entire army command staff with "his" people , who thus received carte blanche for any corruption, extortion and theft of soldiers' salaries. There were reports that the salaries of Syrian soldiers were reduced to $30, and some began to receive it in the form of groceries and other products. Many veterans left the army, unable to feed their families. What was left, folks who were unable or unwilling to find a better job.
This is a fatal mistake, mercenary armies run on $$ . The Syrian army was made up mostly of Sunni Arabs from various tribes, for whom the rule of the Alawite Assad was tolerated only for good money, and the interests of the Syrian nation always came second to interests of the tribe .
Popular and capable commanders like Suheil al-Hassan , were seen as a threat and marginalized post 'victory' , assigned to command small units that couldn't threaten a Coup.
Iranian and Russian support ,was rather hands off ,never took the form in which they would actually puppeteer Assad , also aside from military backing neither Iran nor Russia invested much into keeping Syria economically afloat. Aside from some oil and wheat, there were no bags of cash being flown in to pay the salaries.
Israel kneecaped Hezbollah quite effectively, taking it off the board as a fighting force in Syria as well as grinding down both Iranian and Syrian militias with years of Airstrikes , Russian military presence in Syria is at minimal levels ,given pressing needs on a home front. Iran has it own issues and US control over border crossings prevents move of large numbers of men and equipment across borders . So the IRGC expeditionary corps for Syria is a limited officer cadre commanding some Afghans (Iranians have an outsized Afghan refugee population, that is the main source of cannon fodder for Syria,IRGC own personel footprint is extremely small ),Iranian backed Iraqi PMUs that could muster men and firepower, are held from intervening by US forces holding the border crossings.

End of the day we will see if Syria falls completely or fractures along tribal lines, in couple of days when euphoria cools of Jihadis will face pressure to pay salaries of all the turncoats that are now welcoming them, so now the question is just is Biden going to start flying pallets of cash to finance this or will they ask GCC arabs to do that , as otherwise, DEI jihadis might soon find out that without a massive infusion of $$$ DEI will end up at gunpoint, every one for himself and his tribe Mad Max style
Israel is already eying annexing south of Syria.


As for Assad and Loyalists i imagine they moved to Latakia and Tartus leaving Damascus. Where their Tribes are dominant.
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I believe Assad is Alawite which was less than 10% of the population when this kicked off during the Arab spring. So you definitely had a minority leading over a majority.

Other pressures leading to its demise are Sanctions strangling the economy.

Recent earth quake rocked it as well. By the way, I’d like to mention the US sent more aid than anyone to help with that earthquake.

Millions who fled the country and it being split up and occupied by different factions. Inability of turkey and Syria to normalize relations, Assad wanted the Turkish rebels out of Syria Turkey wanted the millions of refugees back into Syria neither side wanted to budge. So Assad started shelling them again… here we are.

Israel’s recent actions taking out Hezbolla leaders and targeting weapons shipment put a big damper in their ability to help Assad.

Russia is kinda busy and Wagner ain’t what it used to be and appears to not be able to stop it.

The US backing the SDF and monitoring the eastern borders have weakened Assad too

What I fear is escalation, rebels backed by Turkey getting sporty with the SDF(US) and Israel. That could potentially get ugly. But I understand why the Turks want the SDF off their border, they are basically rebranded PKK package under different name and sold the American public. That is quit an issue between the US and Turkey. One that needs real resolution. Also as I mentioned before, I’m pretty sure Erdogan is pretty pissed about the Israel Palestine thing hopefully that doesn’t lead to Turkish backed rebels fighting with Israel.

Who throws money into this to gain ground as it’s seemly up for grabs… that’s a good question. I don’t have an answer. But there are a lot of players and anybody who believes they can benefit will likely try to gain power there
 
Just for fun , new head honcho before he changed his stripes.

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As for wheels coming off in the literal sense
 
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The Syrian Arab Republic reportedly fell at 4:46 AM December 8th 2024

Damascus has fallen.

Allegedly

Last time Damascus fell, it was to Lawerence of Arabia and his Arab legion.

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Then in 1920, TEL and Winston Churchill partitioned the ME as part of the Versaillles Treaty with no understanding of tribal lines. Arab leaders and nomadic tribes were given “countries” nowhere near their original home areas.

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Add to that the Balfour declaration and you can thank England and France for the shit show…

Not just the CIA.

Sirhr
 
Looks like Assad has fled the country…



Oh and remember all those chemical weapons that Saddam didn’t have… and the media and the left brayed on for years about “no chemical weapons… blah blah blah.”

Guess who had them all along. And guess who has them now?

The USG is not in there protecting oil. They are trying to burn the world down before 47 takes office. All part of making sure the world starts burning after Jan 20… so they can hang it on Trump and keep his admin so busy trying to put out fires (or deal with another 911 that they will blame him for) that he won’t have the ability to do any swamp draining. And after 2 years they will cheat a new Senate and House majority and then really start destroying America.

Why do you think Schumer and Pelosi aren’t going anywhere? They have plans, too!

Sirhr
 
Oh and remember all those chemical weapons that Saddam didn’t have… and the media and the left brayed on for years about “no chemical weapons… blah blah blah.”

Guess who had them all along. And guess who has them now?

The USG is not in there protecting oil. They are trying to burn the world down before 47 takes office. All part of making sure the world starts burning after Jan 20… so they can hang it on Trump and keep his admin so busy trying to put out fires (or deal with another 911 that they will blame him for) that he won’t have the ability to do any swamp draining. And after 2 years they will cheat a new Senate and House majority and then really start destroying America.

Why do you think Schumer and Pelosi aren’t going anywhere? They have plans, too!

Sirhr
Sad to agree, but me thinks you’re 100% spot on here. It’s all about the set-up for their next quest to turn Our Republic into a Communist Dictatorship.
 
Sorry, the former United Methodist Church already took care of that, telling the large populations of African Methodist that they need to get woke (as well as Bible Believing Methodist)

The leader of the African delegation basically got to the podium and gave them the verbal ass whipping they deserved.

But the Californian WOKE leaders who had taken over leadership of the former UMC got their wish, which was to make the church a paradigm of wokeiness. What they accomplished was pretty much the destruction of what was once one of the largest Christian Church organizations in the world. A major group of the churches gave them the basic middle finger and went their own way.

I love being in Florida because I can attend the Crosspoint services in Niceville, Florida. The Contemporary service is especially enjoyable and the message is Bible based. The large sanctuary is full. Sorry Methodists, this USED to be one of your churches.

First to church, run home, change clothes and hit the road to Altus, eat a picnic lunch when taking a break from shooting. Talk about a great day.

I went to a local Methodist Church service a few years ago. I am not a Methodist, and was unaware of the Church politics, but the outgoing preacher gave a sermon on tolerance and the stony faces of the congregation clued me in that something was going down. The place was packed an no one was reacting to his sermon. I found out a bit later talking to the dads in the Troop that the preacher was on his last week there and they were bringing in someone conservative. And everyone was there to show the preacher the congregation was behind his sacking. And then I learned about the split in the UMC.
 
" 8He shall have dominion also from sea to sea, and from the river unto the ends of the earth. 9They that dwell in the wilderness shall bow before him; and his enemies shall lick the dust. 10The kings of Tarshish and of the isles shall bring presents: the kings of Sheba and Seba shall offer gifts. 11Yea, all kings shall fall down before him: all nations shall serve him."

the River referred to is not the Jordan, but the Euphrates. And Zionists believe it in a geopolitical sense, not a religious one. it's all theirs. of course, some of them also believe that they as a group are collectively that Messiah who will rule the world with a rod of iron. others believe that the messiah is about to be revealed, and they are ready to go ahead with demolishing the dome of the rock and start construction of the Fourth Temple.

they don't believe in the Christian view of who the messiah is; their idea is more of a political/military leader who will perform great signs and wonders.....etc. In fact they say some incredibly bad things about the Christian messiah.

the fact that fundamentalist Christians in the West (who they consider to be dumb animals) are so supportive of these guys is one of the great head-scratchers of history


Ahh here you are again. An ignoramus.

Why not quote the whole passage?

The author was prophesying the arrival of Jesus. And he was referring to all of the planet, not just some small section of the Middle East. And this passage talks about the weak and souls and saving them from the wicked. A spiritual victory. There is nothing here about war and violence.


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He shall have dominion also from sea to sea, and from the river unto the ends of the earth.

9 They that dwell in the wilderness shall bow before him; and his enemies shall lick the dust.

10 The kings of Tarshish and of the isles shall bring presents: the kings of Sheba and Seba shall offer gifts.

11 Yea, all kings shall fall down before him: all nations shall serve him.

12 For he shall deliver the needy when he crieth; the poor also, and him that hath no helper.

13 He shall spare the poor and needy, and shall save the souls of the needy.

14 He shall redeem their soul from deceit and violence: and precious shall their blood be in his sight.

15 And he shall live, and to him shall be given of the gold of Sheba: prayer also shall be made for him continually; and daily shall he be praised.

16 There shall be an handful of corn in the earth upon the top of the mountains; the fruit thereof shall shake like Lebanon: and they of the city shall flourish like grass of the earth.

17 His name shall endure for ever: his name shall be continued as long as the sun: and men shall be blessed in him: all nations shall call him blessed.

18 Blessed be the Lord God, the God of Israel, who only doeth wondrous things."
 
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we should arm both sides and let them all kill each other
I wonder if some of it currently in use came from Ukraine that has also been found in other countries. Anyone remember Rand Paul asking HRC about the same thing some years back during a congressional hearing?


“In January 2013, Sen. Rand Paul asked then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton whether the U.S. was involved in the shipping of weapons from Libya to Turkey, where they are expected to have found their way into the hands of Syrian rebels who later joined with al-Qaeda in Iraq to form ISIS.”
 
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well, i guess we'll find out if they really wanted a pipeline through syria...this could help ng prices for the eu eventually.
 
Just remember when the time comes that true Christians are being viciously persecuted here (oh and it WILL happen)
If you are sitting around thinking how unfair that is a why doesn't God or somebody save you, well just think about all the Christians in the middle east and Africa that you didn't care less about if they got slaughtered because hey someone from the tribe told us brown skin is bad and glory to our corporations and the Global Elites.