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oh man....if this comment didnt age like fine wine
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...you can say that again Brian...
Hah, funniest shit I seen all day.
Who owned Araru Defence before it was called Hoplite?
From what I can find out, Araru Defence went into voluntary receivership in 2020 & from the looks of an Araru Defence website, the rifles existed as far back as 2017-18.
From what I can find out, Araru Defence went into voluntary receivership in 2020 & from the looks of an Araru Defence website, the rifles existed as far back as 2017-18.
I'm starting to understand how/why this thread is allowed to keep going now...
That said:
Seriously, just stop.
That said:
Seriously, just stop.
I get my news (second hand info) from sources I trust and still only believe less than 50%.
Far as MSM, if I hear something I pretty much think 180 deg opposite. I have concrete reasons for this and no, don't PM me and ask.
Far as MSM, if I hear something I pretty much think 180 deg opposite. I have concrete reasons for this and no, don't PM me and ask.
Brianf be like
Just tbink
If ya hadn’t advocated gov control of farms and “all mass shooters are white”
This thread wouldn’t exist
Just tbink
If ya hadn’t advocated gov control of farms and “all mass shooters are white”
This thread wouldn’t exist
I hope he changed his mind after I called him out.
On the other hand, I hoped he came back by kicking in the door Paparock style and doubling down on the full retard.
On the other hand, I hoped he came back by kicking in the door Paparock style and doubling down on the full retard.
If you google this address Suite 325 comes back to Spa days Brazilian wax & nails?
He must also be a shady lawyer and goes by the name Saul Goodman.
On a different subject of where you get your news.
On another forum I frequent Gannett whichs owns USA Today, all the local area news papers and is currently the nations largest news paper conglomerate, is refusing to post an ad for a local gun show.
On another forum I frequent Gannett whichs owns USA Today, all the local area news papers and is currently the nations largest news paper conglomerate, is refusing to post an ad for a local gun show.
Already said it…thread got boring
Been 3 days
Nothing new
No facts
No PM’s with real questions that havnt been answered already
Just the same few guys not wanting to hear the truth
..until next time
Are you able to tell us something about how you acquired Araru Defence & the circumstances surrounding that?
Well, he was just the check writer. Ooops I forgot. He pays people to write the checks.
Apparently that was around before I ever met him, and he supposedly shut it down when hoplite was formed.
Not sure if he had a business through there.
I think he may have been trying to start something, because it had his real name on paperwork the lawyers dug up.
Very long story short,
Although he had the hide eating out of his hand, his business communication skills were lacking.
Over time it was actually easier to get him to answer questions when I posted
Because like most people (including many on this thread) they only look at the first line and reply. So, thorough emails were never answered well enough.
After several attempts of other forms of communication, spreadsheet, Microsoft tools etc.
I actually got the some of the best answers from asking in the hide.
I personally believe that he didn’t want to answer questions for a very long time but knew he couldn’t escape a question in the thread.
Additionally towards the end he started mowing lawns during the day with out me knowing, so our phone comms were lacking.
The conversation of our separation didn’t just start after the expo, his lack of diligence and knowledge made it apparent a year or so before.
If the expo didn’t come around, tne “talk” was going to happen in the summer.
Edit…the summer of 21 not this summer
Yet because his whole life was in the hide, real and fake…he had no choice to answer.
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So how did Loui/Theis acquire Araru Defence?
Just trying to get a picture of what he/Theis was up to.
i really didnt spend time with aruru
what i do know is the was the original company that he had contacted the original action designer, Tommi (gunsmith, graduated 2013)
i believe aruru was created by Louis
i actually think he was doing some consulting in the firearms business of sorts, but that could be totally wrong...maybe that was his business card, not sure. he sent me a few screen shots of previous work/ spreadsheets while we were talking etc. they wouldnt make hoplite any money or make me change the direction so i dont believe they were fake. possibly made up in his mind or copied from someone else, but it looked like "work"
but through araru, he had his wife notarize (she has a notary stamp, through texas at that point) his fake name "theis" to Tommi, for licensing contract
all of this i didnt know, and once he said that Hoplite is starting it didnt really matter as he was closing it down and all paperwork would have to be resigned etc
even if i asked for his previous business info, he could have falsified it and i would not know the difference especially if there were no sizable financial transactions through it.
aruru was really only useful when the provate eye was connecting dots for addresses and for my conversation with tommi when the shit hit the fan. it helped wrap up his actual name.
A fool and his money are soon parted.
I can assure you that anyone that owns a business is reading this and thinking WTF?
Did you do any research at all before getting into business with him?
What was the arrangement? Business partners? His business and you the financial backing? You the owner and he was an employee?
He wouldn't answer your calls or emails and your only chance of communication was through the hide and you had to pretend to be a customer to get response from him?
Fuck you are gullible!! You got involved in a business and invested a couple hundred thousand dollars and didn't have business lawyers involved?
Sucker!! Comes to mind
I can assure you that anyone that owns a business is reading this and thinking WTF?
Did you actually meet this guy in person before getting involved with him?
Did you do any research at all before getting into business with him?
What was the arrangement? Business partners? His business and you the financial backing? You the owner and he was an employee?
He wouldn't answer your calls or emails and your only chance of communication was through the hide and you had to pretend to be a customer to get response from him?
Fuck you are gullible!! You got involved in a business and invested a couple hundred thousand dollars and didn't have business lawyers involved?
Sucker!! Comes to mind
I was just going to mention this, seems legit but still not believing every word as fact.
This exact response is why the thread is boring.
I’ve publicly said and written I didn’t do enough due diligence more than once over the past 7 months.
Yet members think they are posting some earth shattering info.
As I said on Saturday, unless there is something new that hasn’t been answered which is relevant and not just complaining…or a pm which is useful.
It’s been fun
Just because you want there to be more …sometimes there isn’t.
You’d be surprised how many businesses have been started with less.
The plan was I/me being more or less absentee owner with deliverables upon theis. Progress was being made just not fast enough or on the agreed timeline.
At times there needs to be additional funds infused if delays are understandable in the market.
Example, original machine shop was closed by parent company…that will cause delays as can be imagined.
So, by the time s new ship is found, purchase order confirmation, discussions about said plans, lead times, possible revisions…etc
The timeline can be pushed out months.
That delay is not something that I can blame him for, it was out of our control. So additional funds for fixed expenses and what came to be more important…a excuse for theis to kick the ball down the road.
Additionally, when someone is supplying fake financials that “add up”, there isn’t much to dig through.
Just so happens what he was coming to the table more often than not were wrong decisions. We would speak on the phone and come up with a conclusion, I later find out he was unable to communicate well enough so the “change”, was never implemented or was incorrect in execution.
which I was not aware of until I became non-absentee…which is the exact opposite of the original plan. And that even happen to be the expo when I finally had several days in front of him.
We must remember, hoplite coincided with COVID, so travel was extremely limited. Not only nationally, NYS, but also my main business.
Traveling, and coming back with a COVID positive has ramifications outside hoplite. Work, office staff, mfg staff, kids school, etc.
From a 10,000 foot view the expenses were more than expected but IF he was meeting and speaking with the people he said he was…those expenses could be possible.
Just a perfect storm of poor management and poor employee…really there isn’t more to the story.
Knowing what I know now, even though he signed legal paperwork in good faith…he was lying. There is only so much you will find out when the “scammer” is willing to go that far and break the law.
It’s a fun story to jump on and pick apart but at its core it’s very simple.
LMAO
And this is how we know you are full of shit.
You had no idea what alloy your high pressure cases were made from. Zero.
You had no idea Cockhorn was stealing intellectual property, FOR YOU.
This isn't some oopsie.
You have been disingenuous about the entire thing, since the wheels came off.
Whether you intended to be, or not, you are the front man in this shell game. This also puts a spotlight on your "customer" act, this is classic street scam behavior.
You keep calling us sub hundreds. This is common among the left. Accusing opponents, of what they themselves are guilty.
So you weren't making your investment fast enough. In the gun business. Maybe you are just retarded. Its not like printing money.
I feel sorry for the next poor bastard that works for you.
You are blinded by hatred.
Did I know the cases were stainless…yes
AFTER they were on order and I couldn’t stop it. So of course I knew but they weren’t made with my input.
We’re they made to the dimensions that I agreed to, no.
They were also made in NZ…not in the US.
Do you think that i couldn’t find a 3D printer in the US, we were in talks with one already.
Additionally, showing your lack of knowledge. Why don’t you go listen to the podcast so you’ll learn about the IP.
Then if you’d like I can give you the WhatsApp number of Tommi the original designer for confirmation.
But as usual you will just dismiss that because it won’t fit your narrative.
Would you like to see the comms from Tommi stating I had no idea of his IP?
And how he was sending over a lawsuit against theis for changing specs with out conferring with Tommi.
I’ll send over a NDA and you can see the emails.
Again…thread is boring because no one pays attention.
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as much as i dont want to reply...
so the possibility of bringing home Covid because im traveling is illogical?
what if i said my 10 year old son had just been diagnosed with crohn's disease pre lockdown, after about a year of pain and dropping weight
the doctors advised against any un needed risk for him in particular, above and beyond the initial hysteria of covid
they had no idea and still arent sure about; if getting covid would make his compromised immune system reject the infusions he just started
and since you know so much, there are only a few medicines that work for crohn's especially with children, so its paramount that he stay on these particular meds as long as possible as the second level is not nearly as effective.
crohn's usually ends with surgery removing intestinal length which is particularly important pre puberty because of the reduced absorption of nutrients etc.
but i guess you knew that already, right?
additionally, the body can reject these meds by itself over time which is why they do a test dose and wait 15 minutes before every infusion
so traveling to see if my partner is stealing (which he gave no inclination of at the time) is much more important right?
again lack of facts ... and boring
not so funny huh meme guy.
for the money i pissed away with theis because i was distracted...
id write a check for 5 mil right now for my son not to go through what hes going through ...so you can go fuck yourself and your opinion on my travel habits
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BTW this thread is not getting Legendary status in the thread. Not the best look for anybody.
Jo Potato does this. Don't pick on me. "My boy died of cancer and he was the best soldier ever!!"
Accused a good man of stealing from a widow.
Posts sob story to deflect.
Nope. A little too late to jerk tears now.
So....why did you travel to the PRE? That place was rife with non compliers, hand shakers, mask scoffers, people finger banging equipment etc.
Hanging out at the bar too. A contact tracers nightmare going on there.
Bullshit.
Posts sob story to deflect.
Nope. A little too late to jerk tears now.
So....why did you travel to the PRE? That place was rife with non compliers, hand shakers, mask scoffers, people finger banging equipment etc.
Hanging out at the bar too. A contact tracers nightmare going on there.
Bullshit.
Hit a nerve about your laziness / lack of due diligence/ lack of management huh
You post as a buyer says everything anyone kneeds to know.
Greasy AF
Walked through the tent several times.
Musta missed this.
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