Suppressors Which 80 series 1911?

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I am in a position if I want to use a 1911 in my profession it has to have a drop saftey (80 series) I currently own STI and Springfield 1911's My best being a Trojan and TRP.

It must work for "duty" and be a 5" model. I would rather not have a rail due to the holsters I already own.

Looking for a 1k or under piece.
 
Re: Which 80 series 1911?

I prefer the pre-enhanced Colt MKIV Series 80 pistols, particularly the MKIV Government Model (I have matching Government Model, Combat Commander and Officer's ACP, all fully customized by Joe Bonar @ Novak's); I like the custom Colts as much as my early low-s/n Springfield Professional model.
 
Re: Which 80 series 1911?

I have a 5" Combat Gvmt Mk4.
Made in 1983, the "dark ages of Colt", beautiful exterior what frame and slide is concerned, the rest not so much...
Had it fully customized into a tight-shooting all-chewing all-round gun, and I love it.

I had, however, the firing pin "drop-safety" removed for my own reasons, the stock trigger pull was a gruelling 3-stage load of creep so a trigger job was very much required.
Stock sights were not optimal, had Heinie Slant Pro figure 8s installed along with a list of other mods longer than my arm...

The Kimber is probably a cheaper alternative as it comes with a certain amount of goodies, the main thing about it is that the firing pin safety runs off the grip safety instead of the trigger, as the Colt.
This means that you can achieve a better trigger pull with less work (Kimbers are usually very OK out of the box and as a "duty" gun you do not want to mess with it anyway), but you should, depending on your hands, seriously consider installing a large grip safety if that is not included.
My experience is that a Kimber out of the box does not fit my hands, and I will most likely experience ftfs due to grip safety being partially depressed and thereby catching or slowing down the firing pin enough to barely dent the primer.
Still I would go for the Kimber and rather have a good grip safety/beavertail fitted.
Novak or similar sights are excellent, it should come with nice safety levers etc, all you need.

John - out
 
Re: Which 80 series 1911?

It's extremely hard to beat a good 80s series Colt. Hilton Yam, a respected voice in the 1911 community, holds them in the highest regard of the 1911s with additional safeties. I would completely stay away from the Para guns, as I have personally witnessed multiple failures, seen multiple returns when working in gun stores, and read nothing but horror stories about their customer service. As a 23 year old who has only been seriously shooting for the past 4 years, I've personally seen one hammer break, a slide crack, and a frame crack.
 
Re: Which 80 series 1911?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: nock</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What about the SA Professional model it is used by the FBI and a few other federal agencies maybe your work will allow it? </div></div>


The dudes budget is a grand... Not 3
 
Re: Which 80 series 1911?

Now, I have personally seen an 80-series Colt with a cracked frame from a combination of internal toolmarks and most likely a flaw in the metal.
The slide-to-frame fit, the 4-finger bushing (designed to cut production cost) and less than optimal QC resulted in groupings the size of a medium dinner plate at 30 yards.
This may be acceptable in a WW2 scenario but not for a modern day production gun.

Why I chose a Colt as a base for a full house custom was simply the fact that it has a history behind it, and the steel in the frame and slide is supposed to be of high quality (production flaws like the one that cracked could happen to any manufacturer, that has just as much to do with their suppliers as well).
For an out-of-the-box carry piece, where you are not planning on dumping another 2+ grand into it, I would go another route though.
I regard Springfield to be a very reliable, no-bs 1911 no matter what model you choose, but if you need a dedicated firing pin catching device inside it that is out of the question, as you already know since you have one
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Then you are running out of "classic" brands pretty quick, S&W make extremely good revolvers but their M&P pistol line leaves in my opinion a lot to be desired, so that would exclude them for me.
Although I find Kimber overrated and for their current line a bit overpriced, they are by all means good weapons and for an out of the box service pistol you get everything you need in one package.
I have shot Kimbers both from the original era when they were an actual custom shop, and the newer "assembly line" weapons and think that they found ways to mass produce that still provides acceptable tolerances and trigger pull,accuracy etc in the higher end of the assembly-line range.

John - out
 
Re: Which 80 series 1911?

I ordered a Colt XSE Combat Elite. Got it for 871 Shipped to ME NIB.

It already had novak sights and a good beavertail. Its supposed to have a nice barrel then regular colts too.

As to the post about the Springfield Pro it is a 70 series. I have a TRP and love it and want to own a Pro one day.
 
Re: Which 80 series 1911?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mcm308</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: nock</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What about the SA Professional model it is used by the FBI and a few other federal agencies maybe your work will allow it? </div></div>

The dudes budget is a grand... Not 3 </div></div>

My co-workers are buying new Springfield Professional pistols for right around $1800, and if you're patient, I often see quality used ones for under $2000, but YMMV...