Which AR15 to get?

[MMH]

Looking for a cheap AR15. Not as a precision rifle, but just to stock up while they are cheap. Gander has two on sale for $700: A S&W M&P Sport (includes 4 mags & has a MAGPUL MBUS) & a DPSM Panther Oracle. Are these decent guns? Are there better deals out there?

 

[pmclaine]

If my state allowed the sale I'd get a WalMart Colt. Reasonable price and a solid base if you want to build it up.

 

[Little gator]

As long as your just looking for a entry package no bells and whistles they are all a good option. If you can grab a smith ar for 700 that would be my 1st pick.

Dpms

Delton(I've owned one great gun for 700) for 700 she was a beast.

Both make great started guns.

 

[GunKnowledge]

Those are both excellent entry level AR15's, but way overpriced. Remember you still have to add tax to that 700.

The Oracle is available elsewhere for $519 and the M&P Sport is $549. Shop around, or buy online and have them ship to a dealer close to you (add $20 for shipping and $10-30 transfer fee from the local dealer).

That $200 difference will pay for some accessories/ammo.

 

[GunKnowledge]

Also, remember the M&P Sport isn't quite a true AR-15, like the Oracle is.

The M&P Sport has no forward assist, no dust cover, and a fixed trigger guard. The DPMS equivalent is called the Sportical, and usually sells for about $40-50 less than the Oracle.

The Oracle is more of typical base-model AR15. Some people have no interest in the benefits of the forward assist, dust cover, and pinned trigger guard; so the extra bit of savings goes into something else.

 

[Danco411]

I just did what you are looking to do. Pick up some beater AR's to keep in the safe for a rainy day and shoot the crap out of for fun. I tend to baby my high end customs. I found an M&P sport locally for $654 and bought it. The Sport came with a magpul BUS and one Pmag. I also picked up a PSA complete 1:7 upper with BCG on sale for $289 and bought a complete lower locally for $300. So for under $1300 I have two "entry" AR15's.

Last weekend I took them out to run them on private property. After sighting them in (Primary Arms Microdots) I rand 8 mags through each with not one malfunction. The last three mags each where mag dumps. All I did was lub the rifles. Not to shabby for $650 AR's. I'm very happy with my purchases. They are reliable and fairly accurate for 16" carbine gassed rifles. I could care less about the lack of dust cover and FA on the sport. Both of these do the job so why pay more? The PA micro dots where $90 plus a riser for $15 to bring them co-witness with the irons.

 

[Danco411]

Also, remember the M&P Sport isn't quite a true AR-15

That is a strange statement coming from a guy named gunknowledge. So an AR is not a true AR since it does not have a dust cover or FA? Did you know Stoners origional design did not have either?

Unless our crawling around the deserts of Afghanistan you hardly need a dust cover and I can't remember the last time I used forward assist. The Sport operates like an AR, looks like an AR so I'm pretty sure it's a true AR.

 

[IrishWind]

I would vote for S&W over DPMS just on reputation of companies. And if the M&P Sport is built to the same standards as the other models, the lack of a forward assist and dust cover will not be a problem.

 

[mewillis]

if I were looking for a bargain AR first stop would be Wally World.............
sometimes they have great deals

 

[George63]

for the best bargain (unless used) you have to break it up - anything that is sold with the lower is subject to the excise tax - for 70-100 you should be able to get a lower locally and save the FFL fee - then a complete completion kit from Delton or other, a chrome lined barrel is worth the up charge

 

[Crosshair]

PSA CHF 16'' 5.56mm 1:7 M4A1 Profile - Without BCG or Charging Handle
Palmetto State Armory 5.56 Premium Full Auto Bolt Carrier Group - Bolt Carrier Groups - Upper Parts - AR-15
PSA Aluminum Flip Up Rear Sight - Same Plane

Add a complete lower from your local gun shop for around $220 and the charging handle of your choice and be in all together around $720 for a complete mil-spec rifle w/ cold hammer forged FN barrel and MPI BCG.

 

[samnev]

I'd save a few more $$$ and get a Spikes Tactical. Order one from J&G Sales or another vendor. Great AR. Follow the link below they run about $860 and you just have to pay a dealer to receive it.

Spikes Tactical ST15 Mid Length AR Carbine, 5.56mm/223, with 16" Barrel, New.

 

[Little gator]

Also buds guns online shop has some real nice deals on stuff. If seen stuff for $100-300 less then shops. Food for thought