Rifle Scopes Which Base? 20,30,45 MOA?

[fe1]

Which base would I need to mount on a Rem 700 338LM and a Leupy 8.5x25x25 TMR FFP ER/T for the max effective range for that cal.? I would prefer to stay with ability to zero @100yd.
I am new to the LR stuff.

 

[BobinNC]

Re: Which Base? 20,30,45 MOA?

On your scope you have a max elevation adjustment range of 85 MOA. A 30 MOA base will give you around 72 MOA up and 12 MOA down.

That will get you out to 1700 yds or so from a 100 yd zero.

 

[airborne6.8]

Re: Which Base? 20,30,45 MOA?

30 is what I would go with

 

[winxp_man]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: airborne307th</div><div class="ubbcode-body">30 is what I would go with</div></div>

+1

 

[fe1]

Re: Which Base? 20,30,45 MOA?

Leupold says there is 60moa of travel on the 63055 models. So what now?

 

[Guest]

Re: Which Base? 20,30,45 MOA?

20-25 if you want a 100yd zero, 30 + if you don't care about small targets at close range.
Depending your reticle, there's different options as well.

 

[BobinNC]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: fe1</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Leupold says there is 60moa of travel on the 63055 models. So what now? </div></div>

Well that's odd. Leupold lists Model 11079 Mark 4 8.5-25x50mm ER/T M5 Front Focal as having 85 MOA, and Model 63055 Mark 4 8.5-25x50mm ER/T M1 Front Focal as having 70 MOA.

All par for the Leupold course. Thanks for reminding me again why I hate that companies tactical line. I have no idea what you have or what MOA base to use. Maybe trade it in for SS FFP 5-20, with 30 Milrads of adjustment.

 

[fe1]

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Yea thats why I called Leupold twice.They said it is a typo on the website.The 63055 M1's have 60 MOA W&E.Badger said a 20MOA would get me to 1200yd. with a 100yd. zero.A 30MOA would get more range with a 300yd. zero.That sucks for a scope that runs around $1400.00.
Any other suggestions.Figured I would ask the folks that has the same equipment and hands on expierence.

 

[fe1]

Re: Which Base? 20,30,45 MOA?

Its a FFP TMR reticle

 

[Dionis]

Re: Which Base? 20,30,45 MOA?

Sell your leupy and get nightforce...

 

[ORD]

Re: Which Base? 20,30,45 MOA?

Since it has the TMR reticle and it is FFP, I would probably opt for the 30MOA with a 200-300yd zero which will get you out further in terms of max range of internal adjustment with the scope. Since you [hopefully] won't be shooting it at distances shorter than 300yds or so anyway, it isn't a huge issue to hold under for those few instances where you may need to take a shorter-range shot.

Like folks have said already...if it were me and I were trying to stretch out the legs on a 338LM, I would sell off the Mk4 and buy something else, whether it is the new 5-20x SS or something else. With 30mils on the SWFA SS 5-20x (roughly 103MOA), you could easily get into a 30MOA or a 45MOA canted rail, still get a shorter-range zero and still reach the extreme end of the 338LM with the scope's internal adjustments. Same thing for a scope like the NF NXS F1 (or even a 5.5-22x non-F1 if you want to sacrifice FFP) will have a TON more adjustment range at roughly 40-50MOA MORE internal adjustment than the Leupy.

 

[fe1]

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I have a NF 8x32x56NXS NPR2 reticle not FFP I can pull from another rifle.So which base for it and the 338LM?

 

[AnthonyL]

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I have the almost the same setup as you. Remington 700P .338LM and Leupold 8.5-25x50 ER/T TMR FFP M5 (Part#110079). Interesting to hear the M1 only has 60MOA while the M5 has 85MOA.

My setup consists of a Seekins 30 MOA base and Seekins Med High (0.92") Rings. I wanted to go with a 45 MOA base but from looking at the specs of the Leupold it would not reach zero at 100yard. I'm glad I went with 30 MOA because a friend recently got a S&B 5-25 on the same gun with a 45 MOA and just barely reached zero at 100yards.

Granted I'm not reaching 2000 yards with a 30MOA, but when will I ever get a chance to shoot that far anyways. I'm happy with 1500+ yards of reach in this setup.

 

[AnthonyL]

Re: Which Base? 20,30,45 MOA?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: D Ice 308</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Sell your leupy and get nightforce...
</div></div>

Seriously take this BS elsewhere...don't shit on what you don't own.

 

[ORD]

Re: Which Base? 20,30,45 MOA?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: fe1</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have a NF 8x32x56NXS NPR2 reticle not FFP I can pull from another rifle.So which base for it and the 338LM? </div></div>

That model NF only has 65MOA of internal adjustment, but you should (SHOULD) be able to get a 100yd zero with a 30MOA base.

 

[Guest]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: fe1</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Its a FFP TMR reticle </div></div>

If you want to go long with what you have, install a 40 base and use the very top hash mark for your 100yd zero.
No where in the shooting world is there a law that says, you have to use the ctr X for a zero at any range but the one you want.

I've had many sticks that could get past 1K with a Redfield Jr. flat base an std Redfield rings, using a duplex reticle in a old 2.5x8x36 Leupold,...many ways to skin a cat.

Just because it's not "Normal Tacticool, an High Priced" does not mean it won't still reach.

 

[fe1]

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OK. anyone know the MOA range n the Leupy VARIX III and the VXIII LRT 8.5x25x50?

 

[Guest]

Re: Which Base? 20,30,45 MOA?

Not sure I'm following your question?

 

[ORD]

Re: Which Base? 20,30,45 MOA?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: fe1</div><div class="ubbcode-body">OK. anyone know the MOA range n the Leupy VARIX III and the VXIII LRT 8.5x25x50? </div></div>

Assuming you mean the elevation adjustments in MOA...I'd tell you that you could find it on Leupold's website but its probably wrong given your previous troubles!!!

Check with Leupy directly or just turn the turrets from stop-to-stop on your own and keep count!

 

[fe1]

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The 2 models mentioned VARIX III and VXIII are discontinued and Leupold had already closed. So I was needing the range of elevation on the 2 models if anyone knew what they were.I know that they are different than the FFP models.The Leupys vary from 60MOA to I think 85MOA depemding on the model. As mentioned their website is no help as these models are unavailable for viewing the specs.

 

[fe1]

Re: Which Base? 20,30,45 MOA?

Gunfighter, Who makes a 40 MOA rail that would fit the Remy 338LM action w/8x40 screws? That may be my solution.

 

[Guest]

Re: Which Base? 20,30,45 MOA?

First, like ORD, just run the knobs stop to stop and either count the clicks or with M1's look at the up lines.

Second, http://www.kenfarrell.com/ will make anything you want and may have a 40 in the works for that one already, don't know. I've one of his 30's on a Rem 700 300wm that holds a 22X 58mm SN-3 and have no issues with it.

 

[Guest]

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Just remember, you can always knob all the scope has, then add the rest with the retical. I've a 17X SN-3 that I only EREK to 50 IPHY but I can add another 40 with the reticle if needed. If 90 IPHY total up won't get my .308 there I might just move closer.

Same with the 300wm, 60 w/the EREK and another 40 with the reticle, at 100 up I'll need a F/O for sure.

 

[fe1]

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I appreciate all your help guys.
I'm learning.

 

[Dionis]

Re: Which Base? 20,30,45 MOA?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: AnthonyL</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: D Ice 308</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Sell your leupy and get nightforce...
</div></div>

Seriously take this BS elsewhere...don't shit on what you don't own. </div></div>

Ok, Leupold fan, i 'll take my BS elsewhere ,but here's what i have on my rig currently ...8.5x25...

 

[Goin'Hot]

Re: Which Base? 20,30,45 MOA?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: fe1</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Gunfighter, Who makes a 40 MOA rail that would fit the Remy 338LM action w/8x40 screws? That may be my solution. </div></div>

Get ahold of Cameron Murphy @ Murphy Precision. He can make you anything you want. If you want a 35, 37 or 40 moa rail, he'll make it for you.

I have 2 of his rails and had him make both 45 moa. Great craftsmanship and quick turn around for a custom mount.

 

[Guest]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: fe1</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I appreciate all your help guys.
I'm learning. </div></div>

If your going to have a custom made, run your numbers first. Ie, if your going to use a hold point other than the ctr X for a zero, you will need that subtention number from the ctr X, plus how much you can knob, less about 5-10% for any receiver/base/barrel error.