Which Rifle Do I Pick ? Need Some Direction.

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I know, its been discussed a million times. I've been researching a ton and have narrowed down between two rifles.

First off, I'm left handed. This kind of narrows things down for me as far as choices. I've come between the Remington 700 sps varmint in .308 and the Savage model 10 FLCP-K in .308

In all the reading ive done I have come to the conclusion the savage is probably a better rifle, might not be as popular as the Remington but nobody seems to talk bad about the savages. I was pretty much set on the savage. But then theres the aftermarket, it's huge for the 700 and not so much for the model 10. My biggest thing was a detachable mag. There seem to be some pretty nice set ups for the remington.

Thats really my biggest hang up right now, I've been quoted $599.99 for the remington and $799.99 for the savage, so $200 more. Everything I find always points towards the savage being cheaper? maybe a lower end right hand model ? So I can get a nice bipod and scope for either no big deal. But the mag, am I getting hung on something stupid ? I mean really seems most guys stick in a 5rd which is only 1 rd more than factory. I'm wondering if its worth all the fuss over one round ? Every time I talk myself into the remington my gut says go back to the savage. So please help steer me in a direction. Does the massive aftermarket of the remington make it worth it ? Or do I go with my gut and snatch up a savage ?


quick edit as well, savage lists the magazine type for the FLCP-K as detachable box. But it doesnt appear so as it does on say the FCP-SR, I don't see any release or does it just sit flush with the bottom of the stock, kind of like say--err a mini 14 if my memory serves me correct ?
 
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I had this same question when I first went to purchase my first donor rifle that would later become a full custom. My thoughts were very similar to the ones posted above. I went with a Remington 700 SPS V due to the fact that the aftermarket products are freaking endless. Not saying savage doesn't have a fair market....

If your trying to stay cheap then both guns will serve their purposes. The R700 SPS V that I bought immediately got a new stock and then it was a 3/4-1/2 minute gun with 168 fgmm.

I would say go Remington (personal preference) for the market if you decide to upgrade later, but when it all comes down to it you can't go wrong with either.
 
#5
Well i now see just how the mag is set up on the savage and im fine with it. I think im going to trust my gut and go with the savage i think itll be a nice rifle.
 
#7
Which Rifle Do I Pick ? Need Some Direction.

If you buy a Savage, no matter what you do to it, no matter how much money you spend to customize it, it will always be a Savage.

With all associated resale implications.
 
#8
Graham said:
If you buy a Savage, no matter what you do to it, no matter how much money you spend to customize it, it will always be a Savage.

With all associated resale implications.
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Serious wisdom in those words. I had a bad experience with Savage and won't go back, though I'm sure those types of stories exist for Remington as well. Were it me, I'd get the SPS, put a good scope on it, then see how it shoots with FGMM or Black Hills match. Once you see how it shoots (and how you shoot), you work your way up from there. As your skill and preferences increase, you can drop it in a Manners, put on a rail, add a good trigger, and screw on a top notch barrel. That rifle can grow with you.
 
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Mach1320 said:
I know, its been discussed a million times. I've been researching a ton and have narrowed down between two rifles.

First off, I'm left handed. This kind of narrows things down for me as far as choices. I've come between the Remington 700 sps varmint in .308 and the Savage model 10 FLCP-K in .308

In all the reading ive done I have come to the conclusion the savage is probably a better rifle, might not be as popular as the Remington but nobody seems to talk bad about the savages. I was pretty much set on the savage. But then theres the aftermarket, it's huge for the 700 and not so much for the model 10. My biggest thing was a detachable mag. There seem to be some pretty nice set ups for the remington.

Thats really my biggest hang up right now, I've been quoted $599.99 for the remington and $799.99 for the savage, so $200 more. Everything I find always points towards the savage being cheaper? maybe a lower end right hand model ? So I can get a nice bipod and scope for either no big deal. But the mag, am I getting hung on something stupid ? I mean really seems most guys stick in a 5rd which is only 1 rd more than factory. I'm wondering if its worth all the fuss over one round ? Every time I talk myself into the remington my gut says go back to the savage. So please help steer me in a direction. Does the massive aftermarket of the remington make it worth it ? Or do I go with my gut and snatch up a savage ?


quick edit as well, savage lists the magazine type for the FLCP-K as detachable box. But it doesnt appear so as it does on say the FCP-SR, I don't see any release or does it just sit flush with the bottom of the stock, kind of like say--err a mini 14 if my memory serves me correct ?
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Lot's of folks have their favorite platforms (brands) for a multitude of reasons.

If your looking to customize a rifle, I would look at the lowest cost platform that allows you to do
so with the widest selection of aftermarket parts.
Keep, or sell the take off parts to offset the cost of the upgrades, and learn the rifle to find out
what it likes, and what it doesn't.

Or, buy a rifle that has most, if not all, of the things you would look for in a rifle.

Either way it depends of your level of satisfaction since your spending the coin.

None of us on here can tell you what YOU want.

So get what YOU feel will satisfy you the most, and don't look back.
Most of all don't worry about what other folks are shooting, get what you want,
and become the best that you can with it. :)
 
#10
I was in this situation a couple years ago. I ended up going with the savage. It had the accutriggger and there is now a sufficient after market for parts. Also, barrels are very easy to change. and accurate pre-chambered barrels. Yes, I know you can do a Rem-age and stuff.

What kind of shooting are you wanting to do? Just range shooting? Any competitions? You didn't really say.

Also, from looking at the specific models you mentioned; the savage already has a threaded 24" barrel and the detachable mag system. (looks like since it's just 4 rounds, it would most likely sit flush with the bottom of the stock). The savages barrel is also a 1-10" twist. This will be better for the heavier bullets. (actually I'm not sure what a 1-12" will stabilize but IIRC the 1-10" is "better").

While on the other hand, the remington has a 26" barrel and an internal box mag. Having a detachable mag is a major convenience, and almost necessary if you want to have any real chance in most comps. Also, if you want to put a brake or a suppressor on the remington youll need to have the barrel threaded which would cost $100 or so and include downtime while its at the gunsmith.

I'd say either would be a good choice, it's all up to what you want out of it.
 
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Mach1320 said:
Well i now see just how the mag is set up on the savage and im fine with it. I think im going to trust my gut and go with the savage i think itll be a nice rifle.
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Missed this post when going through the thread. Well if you don't change your mind and get the savage, and it's a lefty 4.41" action with the top bolt release and you're interested in an XLR Chassis, I've got one for sale. :)
 
#14
I run both, I prefer savages as when you decide to change things you can either do it your self, or use a local smith who likely won't take six months to get it back to you. The aftermarket thing is moot as it is true Remington has more, savage has about anything you would ever want.

My custom Remington is a sub .250 Moa gun that cost me about $3500. My savage is a sub.4 Moa and I have about $1600 in it. Some of the accuracy difference is one was built to shoot fgmm the other is a 7rm than I am still developing a load for.
 
#15
The remington 700 is a good rifle but straight from the factory the throat is way to long.i would go with savage are if u go with the 700 carry it to the gunsmith and have the barrel set back and rechambered.
 
#16
Steve Williams said:
Nice choice :D

I went with the FCP-SR myself, topped it with a Vortex Viper 6.5-20X50

Work yourself up a load for it, or go with the FGMM 175's, and don't look back.

Steve
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Nice ! The FCP-SR is everything I'm looking for minus being available in left hand. If I was only ever going to shoot the gun off a bench or prone I'd probably get one. I've worked right handed guns my whole life. But I'd like to maybe take a go at some coyotes and maybe a few deer with this rifle so a left hand is a must to me in the event I have to take a shot off hand.

I figured everything I'm going to want is still available for the savage as opposed to the Remington. Hopefully it doesnt take more than the 7-10 days I was told to get it in as I've only got about a month before snow hits and I'd like to get some shooting in before then.
 
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Mach1320 said:
Hopefully it doesnt take more than the 7-10 days I was told to get it in as I've only got about a month before snow hits and I'd like to get some shooting in before then.
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Good for you, you'll have to post some pix when it arrives (hopefully before the flakes fly).

Maybe they'll get it quicker to ya than planned. :)

I was talking with someone the other day, and we came to the conclusion that shooting a RH rifle LH,
could be advantageous, since your shooting hand would stay on the trigger, your off-hand would
work the bolt for quick follow-up shots.

I had never thought of that, until they mentioned it could be better that way for some situations.

Steve
 
#18
although Graham is absolutely correct, the Savage will likely shoot better. If you don't care to lose some cash if/when you go to resell, then get the Savage. CDI makes a DBM for that rifle. They will also inlet your stock. Although, when I had my fcp-k, I went with an XLR chassis.

The Rem will need an immediate trigger and stock job, putting it way above that 200.00 difference. The Savage's "accu stock" is nothing to write home about, but it beats the pants off that SPS stock. As far as the accu-trigger goes, you'll either love it or hate it.

ETA - fcp-k has that factory brake which was a great addition when shooting .308. That would also be another cost factor when comparing the Rem to the Savage. The brake worked decently for me...good luck, though you will not go wrong with whatever decision you make.
 
#19
You won't be sorry with the FCP-k. I love mine. As FALex said the accustock is ok but not great. I also put mine into an XLR chassis, and other than a savage tactical bolt knob, the rest of the rifle is stock FCP. I personally really like the accu-trigger and have no complaints with it. I have never had it "lock" up on me as some have reported. I went to the range just today and shot the following 5 shot groups .58", .57" and .565" at a hundred. At three hundred shot 2.5" and 2.4" Not great but both had a true cold bore shot which is always .5MOA high and a tad right. with out those the remaining 4 rounds were 1.35 and .96". Not the greatest conditions with a constant snow and drizzle and left to right steady breeze. FGMM 168's. All shot from a bipod and rear bag. 25 rounds today at just over .5 MOA (taking out the cold bores at 300). I know I should compensate for the cold bore and I will be working on that but to know the consistancy of that shot is why I don't chase it unless I am trying to knock over a coyote...

I also own Rems but they take more money out of the box to get them to where I like them.
 
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Steve Williams said:
Good for you, you'll have to post some pix when it arrives (hopefully before the flakes fly).

Maybe they'll get it quicker to ya than planned. :)

I was talking with someone the other day, and we came to the conclusion that shooting a RH rifle LH,
could be advantageous, since your shooting hand would stay on the trigger, your off-hand would
work the bolt for quick follow-up shots.

I had never thought of that, until they mentioned it could be better that way for some situations.

Steve
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I shoot left handed and prefer a LH bolt because you can control the direction of the muzzle easier on repeat offhand or sitting shots. Otherwise I have to drop the butt to cycle the bolt because their isn't any forend support.
 
#22
Didn't notice the date. Maybe you can get them to delete all old posts if it bothers you that much. These old ones can still help someone out besides the OP. Some things never change.
 
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