is wiki history or is it edited by certified wiki editors who have an agendas to push and a narrative to sell. I grew up in Jersey, spent more time in latin america than most so called Hispanics in our fair land. I know what I know and what I know is from experience not some fantasy bullshit story line.
I'm a Hispanist, Jerry (i.e., I've made a living through knowing the cultures and language), and the explanation in the audio in the second link with Cristina Mora is pretty much how it happened. No bullshit, no fantasy.