Why am i seeing so many unfired 300 PRC for sale in the PX?

[Tokay444]

The belt is the disadvantage.

 

[308pirate]

I just want to know who goes to the PX to count how many of something is for sale

WTF

 

[rustyinbend]

Maybe like me, they are 300WM shooters who realized that 15 grains of powder more really does equal recoil......I wanted one, I'm leaning to 6.5PRC now.

I have both barrels for my MRAD. Still refining the load, but so far, they are shooting and grouping equally well. I'll keep both. Going to an ELR class in Utah in July ... my problem will be deciding which to take. 1st-World-Problem ... eh?

 

[rustyinbend]

The belt is the disadvantage.

Definitely an extra step to collet the "bulge", but no big deal for me. That said, the PRC round FL sizes without that extra step, so it's admittedly easier to reload.

 

[Eeegadd]

300wm with a long throat has no disadvantage to the 300PRC. They have basically the same capacity. The 300wm actually has a little more capacity if you have a long throat. Its a bigger case if you move the bullet out of the combustion chamber.

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I'm having a 300 prc built for me. Heres what the difference between a 300wm and 300prc is. It only makes a difference from 1500 or so yards and beyond. The prc was built specifically for the hornady 225 and 230gr bullet. The prc can push the fps by 200 compared to the wm. The twist on the prc 1-9 also stabilizes the bullet better than the 1-10 on the wm. The 1-10 doesn't stabilize out to 2000 yds like the 1-9 prc. I'm not here to argue, just educate myself. This info comes directly from my gunsmith that specializes in extended long range. The difference only comes into play way beyond 1000 yds. For every day stuff, go with the wm. If you can shoot 2000 yds. Go with the prc.

 

[rustyinbend]

I'm having a 300 prc built for me. Heres what the difference between a 300wm and 300prc is. It only makes a difference from 1500 or so yards and beyond. The prc was built specifically for the hornady 225 and 230gr bullet. The prc can push the fps by 200 compared to the wm. The twist on the prc 1-9 also stabilizes the bullet better than the 1-10 on the wm. The 1-10 doesn't stabilize out to 2000 yds like the 1-9 prc. I'm not here to argue, just educate myself. This info comes directly from my gunsmith that specializes in extended long range. The difference only comes into play way beyond 1000 yds. For every day stuff, go with the wm. If you can shoot 2000 yds. Go with the prc.

Excellent assessment ... thank you.

 

[GMZ]

Probably because guys bought into the 300 PRC because of inexpensive factory match ammo and high quality reloading components which are now unavailable. For $4/rd you might as well be shooting NM/LM which you can actually still find ammo and components for.

Or it could be cartridge overlap. I doubt many guys just jump into long range shooting with a 300 prc. I get the impression many guys already have a short action caliber at least if not a short mag which makes the prc a tough sell for under a mile. And how many people are shooting a mile on the regular?

I have to laugh at whoever said 300 WM brass options are dwindling, there is Lapua and ADG brass now on top of other premium brands, and I can still find several cheaper brands in stores even now.

 

[CerebralDistortion]

Bah, 300 Win Mag Ackley Improved.
Bulge? What bulge?

 

[hesp]

Here all these years I have been shooting my 6.5x06 , perfectly happy. I am using 30 cal brass ( 30-06 ) to make my 6.5x06. Does that put me in the 30 cal club , or the 6.5PRC club? A little of both.

 

[jmw]

I'm having a 300 prc built for me. Heres what the difference between a 300wm and 300prc is. It only makes a difference from 1500 or so yards and beyond. The prc was built specifically for the hornady 225 and 230gr bullet. The prc can push the fps by 200 compared to the wm. The twist on the prc 1-9 also stabilizes the bullet better than the 1-10 on the wm. The 1-10 doesn't stabilize out to 2000 yds like the 1-9 prc. I'm not here to argue, just educate myself. This info comes directly from my gunsmith that specializes in extended long range. The difference only comes into play way beyond 1000 yds. For every day stuff, go with the wm. If you can shoot 2000 yds. Go with the prc.

who says a 300 win has to be a 10 twist. That argument makes zero sense

 

[Schw15]

I'm having a 300 prc built for me. Heres what the difference between a 300wm and 300prc is. It only makes a difference from 1500 or so yards and beyond. The prc was built specifically for the hornady 225 and 230gr bullet. The prc can push the fps by 200 compared to the wm. The twist on the prc 1-9 also stabilizes the bullet better than the 1-10 on the wm. The 1-10 doesn't stabilize out to 2000 yds like the 1-9 prc. I'm not here to argue, just educate myself. This info comes directly from my gunsmith that specializes in extended long range. The difference only comes into play way beyond 1000 yds. For every day stuff, go with the wm. If you can shoot 2000 yds. Go with the prc.

I had a 300 win mag with a 1-8 twist 28 inch long and had free bore set out. I ran the 225 eldm at 2925 all the way up to 2980. Downfall was i single loaded them but great performance and the belt really has never been a concern for me or problems.

 

[livingthedream]

I had a 300 win mag with a 1-8 twist 28 inch long and had free bore set out. I ran the 225 eldm at 2925 all the way up to 2980. Downfall was i single loaded them but great performance and the belt really has never been a concern for me or problems.

I'm having one of these built now. 300 WM, 1:8, 28" throated for 230 SMKs in a CIP length mag. But then again, I shoot a 260 Rem instead of a 6.5CM.

 

[Steel head]

who says a 300 win has to be a 10 twist. That argument makes zero sense

And there’s been a few people that say when throated properly the 300WM actually has a velocity edge over 300PRC with the really heavy bullets.

 

[Steel head]

I'm having one of these built now. 300 WM, 1:8, 28" throated for 230 SMKs in a CIP length mag. But then again, I shoot a 260 Rem instead of a 6.5CM.

 

[CrabsandFootball]

I just want to know who goes to the PX to count how many of something is for sale

WTF

Autists

 

[CrabsandFootball]

300NM can be found on shelf at sportsmans for $54/box for FGMM using 215 Bergers

300PRC can't be found anywhere but Gunbroker where its $100+/box plus shipping/tax.

Which one would you pick?

 

[CrabsandFootball]

who says a 300 win has to be a 10 twist. That argument makes zero sense

Most factory 300WM are 10 or 11 twist.

The standard 9 twist of the PRC in factory guns does give it an edge shooting Monolithics and other solids that require a faster barrel.

Custom guns are a different ball game but most people aren't shooting custom guns.

 

[308pirate]

Autists

 

[Mr. Z]

Because the poors gotta sell their shit, before trying out something else.

Hence, why they're poor.

But, “the new shiny!”

 

[CrabsandFootball]

Why does it look like rain man is beating off?

 

[308pirate]

Why does it look like rain man is beating off?

Cause he saw how many 300 PRiCks were on the PX

Duh.......

 

[2aBaC̶a̶]

Wow, I missed the 1yr anniversary of this thread.

Today the answer would be...

AMMO or lack of.

 

[BCX]

Shit,,,,I just realized I started this thread

My sons rifle finally showed up. 30 SM (300 PRC improved) and a spare barrel chambered in 300 WM throated long!

 

[hafejd30]

300NM can be found on shelf at sportsmans for $54/box for FGMM using 215 Bergers

300PRC can't be found anywhere but Gunbroker where its $100+/box plus shipping/tax.

Which one would you pick?

Was at cabelas in Green Bay Wisconsin Saturday. They had 2 boxes of Hornady Precision Hunter 300 PRC with 212 ELDX bullets. $45 a box. Was surprised to see that on the shelf

 

[jmw]

Most factory 300WM are 10 or 11 twist.

The standard 9 twist of the PRC in factory guns does give it an edge shooting Monolithics and other solids that require a faster barrel.

Custom guns are a different ball game but most people aren't shooting custom guns.

I would think that most people who are shooting elr with a 300 win mag and using 205, 230 weight bullets are shooting custom rifles or at least rebarreled rifles. It doesn’t really matter to me as the 300 Norma rules them all

 

[CrabsandFootball]

I would think that most people who are shooting elr with a 300 win mag and using 205, 230 weight bullets are shooting custom rifles or at least rebarreled rifles. It doesn’t really matter to me as the 300 Norma rules them all

Not really.

Bergera HMR 300 Winmag
Ruger Precision 300WM
Sako TRG 300WM
AI 300WM
Browning Xbolt Hells C 300WM
MRAD 300WM

Lots of people shooting factory guns with standard twists. I would say more people are shooting these than custom guns overall.

 

[Steel head]

I would think that most people who are shooting elr with a 300 win mag and using 205, 230 weight bullets are shooting custom rifles or at least rebarreled rifles. It doesn’t really matter to me as the 300 Norma rules them all

300 RUM says hello!

 

[jmw]

Ok let me say it this way. The people I know and shoot with have custom or at least rebarreled rifles. So I will leave it right there, not looking to argue about it

 

[Steel head]

Ok let me say it this way. The people I know and shoot with have custom or at least rebarreled rifles. So I will leave it right there, not looking to argue about it

I’m just being a shit head
I understand what you’re sayin.
The 300 and 338 NM are awesome cartridges.

300-378 says spank you later.

 

[2aBaC̶a̶]

Was at cabelas in Green Bay Wisconsin Saturday. They had 2 boxes of Hornady Precision Hunter 300 PRC with 212 ELDX bullets. $45 a box. Was surprised to see that on the shelf

Considering you could probably sell the fired for $1 each and cost to reload up. It almost saves money to shoot factory ammo.

 

[BCX]

I prefer the 338 LM AI....just saying.

 

[Steel head]

I prefer the 338 LM AI....just saying.

Looking forward to getting my 338 edge going

 

[Guns&WhiteWater]

I’m just being a shit head
I understand what you’re sayin.
The 300 and 338 NM are awesome cartridges.

300-378 says spank you later.

I used to own a 7.82 Warbird. I was getting a wee bit more out of it than my friend who had a 30-378. But it was close. This was way before long range hunting became accepted on a mainstream level.

 

[Guns&WhiteWater]

That Lazzeroni was a fire breather.

 

[b2lee]

I'm shooting a 30-375 Ruger

 

[EotS]

Tried feeding any PRC lately?

300wm ammo exists currently, PRC does not, not at any price.

Ib4 someone links me PRC ammo at $8pr,and 2 boxes available, with a flat shipping rate of $75.

 

[Tokay444]

Tried feeding any PRC lately?

300wm ammo exists currently, PRC does not, not at any price.

Ib4 someone links me PRC ammo at $8pr,and 2 boxes available, with a flat shipping rate of $75.

And people are paying it when they find it. Yet 300wm is still collecting dust on the shelves.

 

[Supersubes]

Tried feeding any PRC lately?

300wm ammo exists currently, PRC does not, not at any price.

Ib4 someone links me PRC ammo at $8pr,and 2 boxes available, with a flat shipping rate of $75.

By that logic we should just dump 9mm, 5.56, and .308 while we're at it.

 

[Winny94]

300NM can be found on shelf at sportsmans for $54/box for FGMM using 215 Bergers

300PRC can't be found anywhere but Gunbroker where its $100+/box plus shipping/tax.

Which one would you pick?

$54 for 300 norma? buy that ammo & use it as trade fodder. Thats an insane find.

 

[b2lee]

I just bought a few boxes of 300PRC 212gr ELD-X Match from Midsouth for $54.99/box of 20......they were gone quick. These were not for my rifle...but saw them...and grabbed some for a friend. There is an astounding number of new 300PRC shooters. It is mind boggling how fast this cartridge took off.....maybe I'm partly to blame with posts here and discussions at the range.....however...numbers show that most of the new 300PRC is from hunters.

I'm on barrel #2....eventhough Barrel #1 is still shooting great at 1500 rounds.

 

[EotS]

And people are paying it when they find it. Yet 300wm is still collecting dust on the shelves.

Uh huh. Just tripping over all the unbought 300wm.

You show me where 300wm is sitting for anything longer than a few hours on a shelf, and I'll buy you a Coke.

 

[Tokay444]

I’m too white for a Coke.

 

[EotS]

I’m too white for a Coke.

Fair enough.
Faygo it is!

 

[b2lee]

Uh huh. Just tripping over all the unbought 300wm.

You show me where 300wm is sitting for anything longer than a few hours on a shelf, and I'll buy you a Coke.

Sportsman's Warehouse in Cresent Springs, KY....had 300WM with dust all over them for like a year....not saying they are there today...but they were when I was their Wednesday.....along with 300NM and 338LM.....and...crazy...but a huge stack of 6mm ARC that seems to not be selling around here...but hot online.

 

[BCX]

Fire forming ADG 300 PRC into 30 SM tomorrow. Was able to order dies on Wednesday and received them Friday.....

 

[whiskeytower]

Hey guys, I have an 6Gt expected to be here next month, gonna sell it because I have a 6 Dasher in que now. I sold my old junky .243 because the 6Creed was the way to go....... My 6Br was just did not have a cool acronym to call it so i got rid of it also......... Wish someone could give me about a 6 month heads up on what the newest hotness will be, i am on my 2nd mortgage and still dont have a rifle or brass...... (giggles in facetiousness)

 

[2aBaC̶a̶]

Hey guys, I have an 6Gt expected to be here next month, gonna sell it because I have a 6 Dasher in que now. I sold my old junky .243 because the 6Creed was the way to go....... My 6Br was just did not have a cool acronym to call it so i got rid of it also......... Wish someone could give me about a 6 month heads up on what the newest hotness will be, i am on my 2nd mortgage and still dont have a rifle or brass...... (giggles in facetiousness)

6mm Layzer, its magnum version of those sorta like a necked down 6.5 PRC. Get on it.

 

[TreyMeTrey]

Saying an absolutely better case design is a dramatic overreach. When shot from CIP length mags and throated appropriately they match each other in velocity. They feed equally, 300wm has more brass options, from load data I've seen 300wm takes a little less powder to match velocity, until people have burnt through a lot more 300 PRC barrels we can't accurately compare barrel life. So with that said the only real argument for the 300 PRC over the 300wm is the belt. People that load frequently for the 300wm know that the belt is a non-issue. Me and many other people bump the shoulder when sizing the same way you would most other non-belted cartridges. So realistically I'm not seeing any advantages other than hornadys factory ammo offerings which I will admit is nice for those who don't handload.

you have that backwards on 300 PRC burning out more barrels faster than the 300 WM..The 300 Win Mag is the barrel burner of these two.

 

[Shoots 700's]

I went right to 300 Norma

 

[TreyMeTrey]

I dont know.Im building another 300 PRC now