Why are quadrails making a comeback?

[Docsherm]

Vltor's second generation CASV rail.

it's not winning any beauty contests, has a few things about it that mean its not popular with the civilian market, but it was very expressly designed to hold zero when using LAMs and clip-ons, as it was designed to mil contract requirement.

Put a PEQ-15 on the side (if you are using a Clip on you will have to because of room) and see what happens......... the tip rail is the only part that works.

 

[akmike47]

Are you new to the world?

"What is old becomes new again"

 

[akmike47]

It's whatever. I have MLok, Pic, and KeyMod [DickMod].

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OP: to guard your hand from getting tore-up from the handguard, get handguard guards to guard hands from the handguards.


Also, stop being poor.

If your hands are being torn up by rails you aren't the real manly type I'm guessing.

 

[Shooter McGavin]

This thread has me thing about getting a DD Mark18 or a DD M4A1 upper, However, the two KAC upper I ordered don't have 1913 rails so what the fuck do I do now.

 

[WindstormSCR]

Put a PEQ-15 on the side (if you are using a Clip on you will have to because of room) and see what happens......... the tip rail is the only part that works.

this has been done to death. the sides will hold zero just fine, as they are designed to do. if it had as much flex as you seem to believe it does you'd be able to crush it with your boot.

edit: I know someone who has one, and I have a LAM I can use, so once they get the time to drop by I'll actually do it and tell you exactly the amount of divergence achieved vs force applied, and if it returns to original point. Straight facts.

 

[msgriff]

Yes, however that still means the military isn't going to convert it to a Mil-STD without taking that control away from magpul. the idea behind mil standards is that the military itself has final control.

My reply was to clarify your post "magpul retains control of the design" and to provide facts to others that may be interested. I also believe that the Sig NGSW incorporates M-LOK on the handguards.

 

[RUTGERS95]

Please site an example of this theory in reality. Can you give us an example of one of these MLOK rails that you are speaking of?

we know it's not geiselle lol

 

[RUTGERS95]

To summarize:

"Weight doesn't matter because no one here walks or runs any distance with their AR"

also

"I need a quad rail because NSW Crane says it's stronger and I might use my rifle hard enough that I could shear off an M-lok attachment"

Ok....

only a retard would summarize it like that. I am quite sure God gave you a working brain so use it son. I know plenty of smart Aggies so don't embarrass them

 

[Tx_Aggie]

only a retard would summarize it like that. I am quite sure God gave you a working brain so use it son. I know plenty of smart Aggies so don't embarrass them

 

[Crews]

So let’s say a fella does like himself some quad rails, in 2023 (with new options everywhere), what are some of the slimmer ones?

Enough of the arguing…. Who among you can answer my question!?

 

[Docsherm]

Enough of the arguing…. Who among you can answer my question!?

That is like asking for a Tall Midget.........

 

[WindstormSCR]

Enough of the arguing…. Who among you can answer my question!?

probably midwest, since last I checked those are basically at the minimum clearance required by spec to avoid collisions of the mounting hardware.

 

[msgriff]

Enough of the arguing…. Who among you can answer my question!?

Aero has a quasi quad. None of the slots are M-LOK.

 

[Crews]

Aero has a quasi quad. None of the slots are M-LOK.

BLASPHEMY!!!!

In all seriousness, I like their mostly-monolithic mounting system but they’re pretty chunky.

 

[LuvDog]

I didn’t realize quad was coming back in to fashion. I guess I’m cool again

 

[lash]

I knew that if I waited long enough my lazy build would be back in fashion!

 

[TonyTheTiger]

I prefer quad rails. I have had bad luck with mlok not mounting/holding as well (specifically laser/ir unit). I like the rifle heavier up front. I like that it takes longer to heat up when I am shooting and I don't have to wear gloves. When I rest the handguard on something like a barricade and tension it, I don't get flex. I am a big gorilla sized human and the wider pic rails let me get a better grip.

What a weirdly logical presentation of various reasons one might like quadrails. Completely devoid of memes, hurt feelings or name calling. Are you sure you belong in here?

 

[EWS6]

 

[WindstormSCR]

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I'd be interested to know the context, event and manufacturer. without context this tells me nothing.

 

[msgriff]

I'd be interested to know the context, event and manufacturer. without context this tells me nothing.

Looks like a ND into a camp plate. Probably followed up with a Geissele style drop test.

 

[Riverlife87]

This thread has me thing about getting a DD Mark18 or a DD M4A1 upper, However, the two KAC upper I ordered don't have 1913 rails so what the fuck do I do now.

Swap to older urx

 

[hkguns]

Clearly there are at least some, who don't understand how to use MLOK.

 

[sheepdog697]

something about that brown mk18 rail just does it for me...

 

[oldrifleman]

Really don’t notice the difference. I have 2 m-lok and 3 quads. Just the way the uppers came. I am a range shooter only, so not lugging one around. Only thing I attach is a bipod. Put some of the cheap magpul plastic covers in parts of the quad, eliminating the skin grater effect.

 

[RUTGERS95]

Really don’t notice the difference. I have 2 m-lok and 3 quads. Just the way the uppers came. I am a range shooter only, so not lugging one around. Only thing I attach is a bipod. Put some of the cheap magpul plastic covers in parts of the quad, eliminating the skin grater effect.

doesn't add any noticeable weight difference

mlok sucks imho, quad is the way to go for any 'use' rifle

 

[RUTGERS95]

But, some of us have, and will again…

For my primary use, the rifle is the least important component. It is carried everywhere, but rarely used. It makes sense to reduce its weight, reduce its profile, reduce its snag potential, and just overall make is less of an albatross to carry around. Leave the weight where it’s needed. Lose it where it is not. 4 oz less rifle is 4 more ounces of useful stuff that can be carried at the same overall load. Critically look at everything you are carrying and you can save lbs, or reallocate them to more important stuff.

No, I’m not an ultra-lite hiker, but applying some of their principles can save wear and tear on your feet, back, and gear. And when you’re chasing critters through the mountains on foot, “Go lite, go fast” makes a lot of sense. On the last elk hunt I went on, I was able to reduce my overall load out by 7lbs, all by 2-3 oz at a time.

Hell, even a run&gun exposes the fallacy of “get stronger.” Carry everything you need over a multi-stage, multi-mile course while remembering that it’s supposed to be fun.

Mlok and keymod allow you to add stuff where you need it, and not have anything where it’s not necessary. The “oh look, you added a pic rail to your mlok handguard to attach a bipod- quad rails rule” misses the point. I added a 2” section of pic rail, where it is needed, to attach a bipod. That equivalent length quad rail has feet of aggregate rail space that is totally unnecessary.

While some of us are humping heavy loads long distances, and some are attaching optics and illuminators where necessary, most are obtusely clinging to a “vibe” that serves them no purpose. But, if the purpose of the quad rail is “it looks bitchin’ man,” go for it.

when was the last time?

 

[Bigfatcock]

Quad rails make your dick bigger.

 

[hlee]

when was the last time?

It’s been a few years since my last elk hunt, and my last run and gun. I’m not getting younger. Go light, go fast(ish) makes more since now then ever. Why?

 

[hlee]

Quad rails make your dick bigger.

Yeah, like a lifted, squatted, and slammed Chevy pickup.

 

[roostercogburn98]

Yeah, like a lifted, squatted, and slammed Chevy pickup.

 

[roostercogburn98]

Quad rails make your dick bigger.

I’m pretty sure it’s stuck like it is.

 

[RUTGERS95]

It’s been a few years since my last elk hunt, and my last run and gun. I’m not getting younger. Go light, go fast(ish) makes more since now then ever. Why?

ha I'll admit, age does make me question certain things more and easier is now the 'go to' option

 

[redneckbmxer24]

doesn't add any noticeable weight difference

mlok sucks imho, quad is the way to go for any 'use' rifle

That’s only because you have LMT’s where you can’t even get the barrel out of the MLOK version without removing all of the acc’s.

LMT’s MLOK version of the MRP is significantly lighter than the picatinny or LM8. Other MLOK forends are also lighter than any similar picatinny version. Look at any forends marketed as ultralight and you won’t see any picatinny crap.

 

[6.5SH]

Even LaRue discontinued their two non-quadrail hand guards.

 

[bobkhan]

Haha!! So my GWOT fudd LMT I bought in 2008 is now fashionable again!!

 

[BurtG]

key lok is best attachment.

By far.

Strongest
Slimmest.
No barrel intrusion


Is like key mod but better

 

[hlee]

key lok is best attachment.

By far.

Strongest
Slimmest.
No barrel intrusion


Is like key mod but better

So, it’s Dick lok, but less “girthy?” IDK. I’ve never received a complaint about “barrel intrusion.”

 

[Trigger Monkey]

Even LaRue discontinued their two non-quadrail hand guards.

Everything Mark LaRue does makes sense.....to him

 

[BurtG]

Everything Mark LaRue does makes sense.....to him

Mark Larue

Is he trying to go out business Raised prices to the stratosphere for outdated mounts Stopped making all the stuff people want. Makes stuff like this instead While we are on the topic. Wtf is going on with Kevin Brittongham aka a fix. Think he spent the last year on africa safari...

www.snipershide.com

Feel free to chime in

 

[hlee]

Larue Tactical is a psyop to probe the depth of fanboyism…

 

[RUTGERS95]

That’s only because you have LMT’s where you can’t even get the barrel out of the MLOK version without removing all of the acc’s.

LMT’s MLOK version of the MRP is significantly lighter than the picatinny or LM8. Other MLOK forends are also lighter than any similar picatinny version. Look at any forends marketed as ultralight and you won’t see any picatinny crap.

no I've plenty and I like the quads much better

 

[dms416]

Even LaRue discontinued their two non-quadrail hand guards.

At this point, I'd almost say that's an argument IN FAVOR of the non-quadrail

 

[WindstormSCR]

quad rails do one single thing I can think of better than M-lok: handle 40mm recoil

 

[Tex68w]

I have one quad rail gun and it's mostly for nostalgias sake.

 

[ToKeepAndBear]

I prefer monolithic LMT quad rails on my night guns. Don’t have to worry about pic rail coming loose and has a bit more weight/rigidity for laser mount.

 

[Steel+Killer]

Best rail/handguard on the market IMO.......

BCM® MCMR-13 (M-LOK® Compatible* Modular Rail)

BCM's free-float 13inch MLOK handguard eliminates loads from barrel for more accurate shooting. Designed for carbine or mid-length ARs.

bravocompanyusa.com

 

[BAMAboy18]

At this point, I'd almost say that's an argument IN FAVOR of the non-quadrail
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That's pretty cool! At first glance, looking at the rails, I thought there were 5 rifles in your picture.

 

[chevy_man]

I've never bought a quad.

You need gloves or a handguard to shoot any AR with a rapid firing rate. First time I went to a 3 gun with a m-lok rail I was digging for gloves after the first stage when I had to grab the magwell as the handguard got too hot to hold.


I just buy m-lok because they're easy to mount accessories to, they don't snag stuff in the truck, and they don't move once mounted.
All I ever put on mine are arca rails or fore-grips.


I'd be fine running a quad, but then I'd cover it all up with mag pul rail covers anyways, so I don't see the point.

 

[dms416]

That's pretty cool!

The more one thinks about it, the worse it gets...

 

[River44]

Judging by some of the answers, people are going back to quad rails because Mlok is too complicated