Hi,
I have yet to find an answer that makes sense, so here is my question.
When I lay my scope down into the ring bottoms gently after the rings have been torqued to spec on the 1-piece rail (50-65 in. lb- depending on the ring specs), it does do not glide freely. the scope sticks, so when getting my reticle vertical to the plumb line, I have to pull the scope up, rotate and set it back down instead of gently tapping the adjustment knob (parallax-windage) on either side. This is in all of my scope/ring combinations, but only in two-piece matched rings. Not in a 1-piece ring.... Everything is high dollar as well. Badger Ordnance one-piece 20 MOA base, Badger rings, Leupold Mark 4 scope, same type rings and base with night force NXS, Vortex PMR Rings, Seekins rings Vortex Gen 2 Razor on Cadex chassis, and AIAX chassis, Badger base, PMR rings, gen 1 razors...….. LOTS~!!!!!! They all stick in every combo...…… BUT!!!! with a 1-piece base such as the Larue Tactical (for the MK13 Mod 7), the scope glides and will move with the lightest finger touch...…..
I was told that that is normal since there are allowable tolerances in rings and the scope stickiness is not mis-alignment of the rings, bit a very precise set of matched rings and the scope paint coating not yet compressed. The worst is with Badger steel rings and Mark 4 scopes, but Gen 2 Razors (all 5) stick in the ring bottoms. Now as a test, I used a single ring, and the scopes glide freely, but when the cross bolts/screws are torqued to the base, the scope sticks at the bottom..... Not super-stuck like out of round,,,, but not gliding in the rings before I assemble the tops. I did notice that when I torqued the tops, then removed them and scope, and re-installed the scope a couple of times, they were much easier to move in the bottoms. That's a lot of money in mounts/scopes...……. to be screwing with. I know how to install a scope, so it's not me, but I have even switched rings on different bases with different scopes and they do the same thing even after checking the bases to make sure they are not bent from a wacked receiver. I did have a base once that was not flat due to needing a small amount of bedding in the rear. But this is not the case. Do you find this normal with a set of Seekins/Vortex/or Badger rings on precision bases????????
Is it just that the rings and scopes are so precisely machined that with a pair of rings, there is a slight grip when they mate up because they are never going to be as perfectly aligned as a 1-piece base and the tolerances are so tight?????
Thanks for any advise!!!
I have yet to find an answer that makes sense, so here is my question.
When I lay my scope down into the ring bottoms gently after the rings have been torqued to spec on the 1-piece rail (50-65 in. lb- depending on the ring specs), it does do not glide freely. the scope sticks, so when getting my reticle vertical to the plumb line, I have to pull the scope up, rotate and set it back down instead of gently tapping the adjustment knob (parallax-windage) on either side. This is in all of my scope/ring combinations, but only in two-piece matched rings. Not in a 1-piece ring.... Everything is high dollar as well. Badger Ordnance one-piece 20 MOA base, Badger rings, Leupold Mark 4 scope, same type rings and base with night force NXS, Vortex PMR Rings, Seekins rings Vortex Gen 2 Razor on Cadex chassis, and AIAX chassis, Badger base, PMR rings, gen 1 razors...….. LOTS~!!!!!! They all stick in every combo...…… BUT!!!! with a 1-piece base such as the Larue Tactical (for the MK13 Mod 7), the scope glides and will move with the lightest finger touch...…..
I was told that that is normal since there are allowable tolerances in rings and the scope stickiness is not mis-alignment of the rings, bit a very precise set of matched rings and the scope paint coating not yet compressed. The worst is with Badger steel rings and Mark 4 scopes, but Gen 2 Razors (all 5) stick in the ring bottoms. Now as a test, I used a single ring, and the scopes glide freely, but when the cross bolts/screws are torqued to the base, the scope sticks at the bottom..... Not super-stuck like out of round,,,, but not gliding in the rings before I assemble the tops. I did notice that when I torqued the tops, then removed them and scope, and re-installed the scope a couple of times, they were much easier to move in the bottoms. That's a lot of money in mounts/scopes...……. to be screwing with. I know how to install a scope, so it's not me, but I have even switched rings on different bases with different scopes and they do the same thing even after checking the bases to make sure they are not bent from a wacked receiver. I did have a base once that was not flat due to needing a small amount of bedding in the rear. But this is not the case. Do you find this normal with a set of Seekins/Vortex/or Badger rings on precision bases????????
Is it just that the rings and scopes are so precisely machined that with a pair of rings, there is a slight grip when they mate up because they are never going to be as perfectly aligned as a 1-piece base and the tolerances are so tight?????
Thanks for any advise!!!
