Why so little chat about the Bushmaster ACR?

[Falar]

Re: Why so little chat about the Bushmaster ACR?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: krm375</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The Army times is reporting these are the competitors for the new military carbine competition. It should kick off in Jan.

But other companies have been preparing for this competition, as well. A few of the notable submissions include:

• The XCR by Robinson Armament.

• The M6A4 IAR, or similar variant, from LWRC.

• The Adaptive Combat Rifle by Remington.

• The SR-16 by Knight Armament.

• The SCAR by FNH.

. The Colt CM901 </div></div>

I can't believe they are even wasting the time/money to adopt rifles that are basically identical to what we have now. I guess they just have the itch for something new even if it doesn't do anything our current rifles already do. I always thought the next rifle adopted would actually be a big step up like a rifle that fired caseless ammunition or the like.

 

[CCCCanuck]

Re: Why so little chat about the Bushmaster ACR?

Anybody know if there is any difference between the Bushmaster ACR and the Remington ACR other than branding?

 

[nhm16]

Re: Why so little chat about the Bushmaster ACR?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: CCCCanuck</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Anybody know if there is any difference between the Bushmaster ACR and the Remington ACR other than branding? </div></div>

Off the top of my head, the biggest difference is that the Remington version can be had with a 1:7 twist barrel, and it's probably 14.5" instead of 16" long too.

 

[ingobwetrust]

Re: Why so little chat about the Bushmaster ACR?

I saw the enhanced version at a shop tonight for $2295. How does that compare with pricing you guys have seen?

 

[AresSBR]

Re: Why so little chat about the Bushmaster ACR?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: inGobwetrust</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I saw the enhanced version at a shop tonight for $2295. How does that compare with pricing you guys have seen? </div></div>

I have seen a couple hundred less for black and FDE (Just over 2K). Shoot me a PM if you want more info.

 

[marduk185]

Re: Why so little chat about the Bushmaster ACR?

If this sounds too much like the "Hitler rant", it's because it's the truth. And for the record, my hate for Cerberus stems back much farther. In fact, I was nearly banned from another forum for my response to a member's post on how Cerberus should have purchased HK from the BAE.



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this. which leaves us which carbine makers that aint cerberized yet? dam double headed dog needs to leave my gun makers alone yo.

 

[ingobwetrust]

Re: Why so little chat about the Bushmaster ACR?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: AresSBR</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: inGobwetrust</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I saw the enhanced version at a shop tonight for $2295. How does that compare with pricing you guys have seen? </div></div>

I have seen a couple hundred less for black and FDE (Just over 2K). Shoot me a PM if you want more info. </div></div>

I appreciate the offer but I'm not in the market for one of these at all. I can't see it being worth nearly that much. I was just curious about the actual prices that people are paying.

 

[5RWill]

Re: Why so little chat about the Bushmaster ACR?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: marduk185</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If this sounds too much like the "Hitler rant", it's because it's the truth. And for the record, my hate for Cerberus stems back much farther. In fact, I was nearly banned from another forum for my response to a member's post on how Cerberus should have purchased HK from the BAE.


this. which leaves us which carbine makers that aint cerberized yet? dam double headed dog needs to leave my gun makers alone yo. </div></div>

I second this. I don't really like Cerberus and i feel that with every new firearms manufacturer they aquire... another company dies. Its perfect explanation for Remington at least IMO.

 

[jtb33]

Re: Why so little chat about the Bushmaster ACR?

I don't think many of these made it to gun shops. How many people are going to drop $2000-2500 on a new design without being able to see one in person, first?

Not many.

Did BM ever release the other versions of the ACR?

 

[VJJPunisher]

Re: Why so little chat about the Bushmaster ACR?

cause they dont really exist, much like unicorns and the holocaust

 

[markspring1978]

Re: Why so little chat about the Bushmaster ACR?

Just got one of these for a good price. So far I am impressed with the ergonomics. Being a lefty, nice that everything is ambi.

Anyone know when/where the 6.8 conversion will be available?

 

[Heltsley]

Re: Why so little chat about the Bushmaster ACR?


I picked up an ACR for less than $1900 for the Basic in black.

I got it because I am a lefty and the ambi controles are important to me.

 

[DocJekyll]

Re: Why so little chat about the Bushmaster ACR?

I recently decided over the ACR to purchase a simple AR system, but the place I got my AR from also said that the base price has gone down for distributors now. The guy I was speaking to at the gun shop said he could now sell it for about 1800 for the enhanced in tan.
Maybe partly due to recall and maybe bushmaster is realizing they will never sell the rifle with such high a price is contributing as well. Either way, it looks like eventually it may become a decent price for what it is.

 

[Grump]

Re: Why so little chat about the Bushmaster ACR?

I've looked around a bit and "just getting an AR" instead of this Uber-rifle that used to be called the Masada is now, at full retail, a cost savings of only a few hundred dollars.

http://www.bushmaster.com/catalog_xm15_BCWVMF16FMC.asp shows $1,780, and I don't remember if that included the iron sights.

A similarly equipped Robinson Arms XCR or whatever is just over $2,000, with a Magpull MOE buttstock. http://www.robarm.com/products.asp?cat=10

So, with the ACR from RemMasterBushington at $2K is perhaps "in the ballpark" with most everything overpriced, IMO.

That barrel/caliber swap really won't generate much in the way of sales until they actually offer some selection, but like I posted above, only if they don't seriously gouge on the pricing.

But if the "street" pricing for the first two is lower, just like how I believe the $1,950 or so price for a base model ACR is lower than MSRP, then the ACR continues to be over-priced, IMO. That much coin for a rifle should include at least some impressive accuracy, if not an accuracy guarantee of some sort.


Bushmaster's retail for a rail-equipped rifle:

 

[samnev]

Re: Why so little chat about the Bushmaster ACR?

Much to high in price and teething problems haven't helped

 

[Inogame]

Re: Why so little chat about the Bushmaster ACR?

Saw this link in a for sale thread, someone posted it shitting on a price someone was asking for an ACR enhanced.

Now I don't condone thread shitting, but the link is an ACR enhanced for a little over $1800.

http://www.jetguns.com/bushmstr-acrfr16mc-p-2626.html

 

[sobrbiker883]

Re: Why so little chat about the Bushmaster ACR?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dark Horse</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Why so little chat about the Bushmaster ACR?
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'cause this isn't arfcom.