Why so many 6.5 CM for sale???
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I have a few theories, probably all true to an extent.
1) there a ton of them out there, therefore a lot on the used market
2) 6.5CM is a gateway drug for those seeking high performance, they move on to the newer and faster
3) some number are gravitating back to 308 for a variety of reasons: simplicity, cost, component availability, barrel life...etc
1) there a ton of them out there, therefore a lot on the used market
2) 6.5CM is a gateway drug for those seeking high performance, they move on to the newer and faster
3) some number are gravitating back to 308 for a variety of reasons: simplicity, cost, component availability, barrel life...etc
I guess I'm going in reverse since I finally just built a 65 Creedmoor last year and am now finishing up with a 6.5x47.
Couldn't help myself after reading all the 65 Creedmoor vs 6.5x47 pissing match threads.
The newer faster stuff whatever I had a fast twist 243win with a 26" barrel before I was interested in any 6.5 round.
Couldn't help myself after reading all the 65 Creedmoor vs 6.5x47 pissing match threads.
The newer faster stuff whatever I had a fast twist 243win with a 26" barrel before I was interested in any 6.5 round.
It’s all about market numbers. It’s the ‘new’ .308. Everybody’s gotta have one until they need a buck and didn’t really “get into” long range.
If any of those triggered you, then I made my point.
If any of those triggered you, then I made my point.
I agree with 1 and 2 very strongly. The 6.5 creedmoor is not new and shiny anymore. That is a really old and tired meme.... everyone that said it is wrong If anything, it is the new 6mm rounds that are new and shiny, or other new and shiny like 6.5prc, 300prc, etc.
There are still a ton of new rifles being built in 6.5 CM and ammo being made.
I can see #3 could be true but have no real idea on that.
It’s all about market numbers. It’s the ‘new’ .308. Everybody’s gotta have one until they need a buck and didn’t really “get into” long range.
If any of those triggered you, then I made my point.
This could be true as well. The popularity of long rang as the new and shiny is their issue. Not the caliber. I do think that the 6.5 is the standard to buy instead of the 308 for a guy trying long range. In this case, not so much that people tire of 6.5 cm, but they tired of long range.
I will add that the 6.5 is the one that comes up, not necessarily as "the standard". I don't think there is one. But, I would say the 308 is the baseline everything is measured from.
Seeing 6.5CM rifles up for sale and thinking the fad wore off is equivalent to seeing Toyota Camrys for sale and thinking they must be bad cars.
Thats not it at all, there's just a metric shit ton of them out there, which also equates to a shit ton on the market.
Thats not it at all, there's just a metric shit ton of them out there, which also equates to a shit ton on the market.
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I don't disagree with that. If you've been shooting long range, before the PRS or NRL came about, you used to go top local matches and see the same twenty people. Then you'd go to a bigger match and see the same 40 to 50 people. Heck, that was true maybe five or six years ago! Now you can go to a match and be in a squad with four or five guys you've never seen before. New faces pop up, new faces drop out, but the guys you started shooting with 15+ years ago are still around
I never jumped on the CM wagon. I always ran my 308 hot w 185 Juggers or 155 Scenars..It’s all about market numbers. It’s the ‘new’ .308. Everybody’s gotta have one until they need a buck and didn’t really “get into” long range.
If any of those triggered you, then I made my point.
Tools who think long range is "cool", buy the hotness they read about on the internet, they go shoot and find out that a) 6.5CM isn't the death ray they were told it was and b) they don't know shit about rifle marksmanship.
They lose interest, stash the rifle in a corner, then need to pay the payday loan back.
They lose interest, stash the rifle in a corner, then need to pay the payday loan back.
I think a lot of people think it's the easy button for 1,000 yards (and it kind of is) but some people just can't shoot and some people have to drive too far to get to a 1,000 yard range.
People that can actually shoot might sell to upgrade also.
People that can actually shoot might sell to upgrade also.
You would not believe the amount of people I've talked out of buying barrel burners that would never actually get used just by asking them where they're going to shoot over 200 yards. They get a deer in the headlights look and you can see the lightbulb come on.
Guys like that would be better served w a 5.56/223
I have a 338 LM AI being built for 1k to 1 mile shooting. The 375 Cheytec did cross my mind but I'm limited on the east coast.
It never fell from 5th place anyway...The .260 is going to rise again....
My .260 hasn’t stopped burning up barrels while I also shoot other stuff. Even have my first 6.5 Creed being made, in a light hunter.
I just bought a 16" 6.5CM barrel...
I think it is because the fad is wearing off. Everyone bought one.
Those who like it are keeping it.
Those that are pursuing more are upgrading.
Those that never pushed it past 200 yards are finally getting some of their wasted money back.
I think it is because the fad is wearing off. Everyone bought one.
Those who like it are keeping it.
Those that are pursuing more are upgrading.
Those that never pushed it past 200 yards are finally getting some of their wasted money back.
I wouldn't say they "go back" to 308. More like they've revisited an old friend. I know a few guys that use their Three Oh Hate in matches, whether they're in the tactical division, or honing their skills. I'm convinced if you can get really good shooting a 308, it'll make it so much easier when you use the 6.5 Creedmoor. A lot of newer shooters didn't cut their teeth on a 0.465 G1 BC 30 cal bullet going 2650 fps and needing to hold 3+ mils of wind.
Always solid when you see the meme you made in the wild.
The 6.5 creedmoor has a HUGE market. I pulled up the last 5 years of trends and compared it to some other cartridges just to show how much of a market this actually has. Yes, it ebbs and flows, and peaks every hunting season, but the 6 creedmoor and even 223 remington aren't even a drop in the bucket comparatively speaking, and over the last 5 hunting seasons interest is still going up. It's not a fad. If anything it's a phenomenon. After searching a dozen cartridges I can't find anything that is trending anything close to it.
My 4th 6.5cm barrel arrives tomorrow in the box with my .25cm barrel for my AI. I have a bunch of other calibers I shoot but will always have a .308 and 6.5 in the stable for the times I dont feel like loading ammo. I'll be shooting this new 6.5cm barrel in a match on the 18th after I break it in. Dont feel like loading 6br or 25.cm for this match.
Ima get me one them 6.5 creedmores. They say you can hold at the top of a deers back and drop him all the way to 1200 yards.
That would be a very tall and deep chested deer.
I went the other way. I went from 6cm to 6.5cm because I was tired of smoking barrels at ~1k rnds.
But I believe the reason so many are for sale is to jump on the 6mm wagon. Regardless of which one you choose, rhe 6mm is a noticeable reduction in recoil.
I’m running 6.5 until the homesexual tiger shows up. If I can get 15-1800 or more rounds per barrel, I’ll never look back.
But I believe the reason so many are for sale is to jump on the 6mm wagon. Regardless of which one you choose, rhe 6mm is a noticeable reduction in recoil.
I’m running 6.5 until the homesexual tiger shows up. If I can get 15-1800 or more rounds per barrel, I’ll never look back.
Buys ruger American in 6.5CM. Proceeds to tell everyone how it shoots exactly like a 300wm but with less recoil . Had an uncle that was a navy seal. My dad can beat up you’re dad. I think that’s the guy you just described .
You mean with one of those Quigley Ford reticals? It's the real deal badass like the 6.5 creedmore.
I never got a rifle chambered in 6.5Creed, back then the issue was poor brass life and I rarely bought factory ammo.
I also got tired of looking forward to buying new barrels every 1200 rounds (oh joy that's another $800 down the tube) or so with 6x47l, so my answer became 6mmBR, which really should become the next factory hype cartridge. It's true that 6mmBR really is easy to tune and shoot small with.
Plus having a 6.5 Saum makes the Creed look somewhat anemic.
I also got tired of looking forward to buying new barrels every 1200 rounds (oh joy that's another $800 down the tube) or so with 6x47l, so my answer became 6mmBR, which really should become the next factory hype cartridge. It's true that 6mmBR really is easy to tune and shoot small with.
Plus having a 6.5 Saum makes the Creed look somewhat anemic.
I was thinking gap billed the 6 creedmoor as getting ridiculously long barrel life after they introduced it 6yr or so ago. Not sure how much stock I'd put into their claims of barrel life now.
I think half the beauty of the 6br is that you won't find one unless it's a good custom barrel. The problem with factory loads for the br is that the brx, bra, Dasher, etc. are all competing for attention with their varying velocity capability. I like the brx, as you get extra speed with no penalty (no brass prep, no custom or outrageously expensive dies, etc).
That said, 6.5 Creed is a good hunting, and all around shooting round. I use the 6 brx for most matches and practice, but the 147 eld hits the spinners harder when they need to be flipped over. I'll also use the 6.5 when they don't have flashers on the target as the 6mm barely tickles the big plates at 1200.
6.5 creed has been around for how many years now? And people are still calling it a fad?
The 6.5 creed is a good round. But it's nothing Earth shattering. So many of them have been sold because of the marketing push, factory component support, etc.
It can be considered an improvement over the 260, which can suffer problems in the OAL/magazine length and efficiency areas.
The 6.5x47L is known for ease of load development, excellent ability to hold tight SD/ES numbers (as documented by the Precision Rifle Blog). But no inexpensive factory ammo or rifles available.
The 6.5 Creed solves a few concerns with the other rounds, while enjoying extreme support from the factory gun and ammo industry.
This has led to many of them on the market, often appealing to newer shooters looking to get into LR shooting. As a result, many will be sold as new shooters give up the hobby, and as those that stick with it go after the new shiny cartridge fads.
It can be considered an improvement over the 260, which can suffer problems in the OAL/magazine length and efficiency areas.
The 6.5x47L is known for ease of load development, excellent ability to hold tight SD/ES numbers (as documented by the Precision Rifle Blog). But no inexpensive factory ammo or rifles available.
The 6.5 Creed solves a few concerns with the other rounds, while enjoying extreme support from the factory gun and ammo industry.
This has led to many of them on the market, often appealing to newer shooters looking to get into LR shooting. As a result, many will be sold as new shooters give up the hobby, and as those that stick with it go after the new shiny cartridge fads.
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12 years now, but I've met many an ignoramus believing it was introduced concurrently with the RPR.6.5 creed has been around for how many years now? And people are still calling it a fad?
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