Sidearms & Scatterguns Win 1897 getting trench gun treatment.

[NC-K9]

Been fascinated with trench guns for a while now. It would so bad ass hanging on the wall in my gun room. Not to mention I can't wait to slam fire one. Finally decided to quit looking at them online and build one.

Found a 1925 Winchester 1897 fairly local and got a great deal on it. Somebody put an adjustable choke on it, so I don't feel to bad about hacking the barrel off.

Picked up an pretty sweet bayonet on eBay and a sling as well.

Ordered a heat shield/bayonet lug, magazine plug and rear sling swivel a few days ago. But it'll probably be a month or so till it gets here.

Just want to be prepared in case an Antifa riot gets too close and I fear for my life.

 

[hermosabeach]

pretty nice old gun

One of those gave me worse slide bite than any handgun.... fun to shoot

 

[Idaho-5R]

Yep, pretty nice looking old shotgun!! But, yes, beware the notorious " 97 slide-bite"!!!! Ha Ha, I love those old 97's tho!!!!!

 

[Son of Dorn]

Been fascinated with trench guns for a while now. It would so bad ass hanging on the wall in my gun room. Not to mention I can't wait to slam fire one. Finally decided to quit looking at them online and build one.

Found a 1925 Winchester 1897 fairly local and got a great deal on it. Somebody put an adjustable choke on it, so I don't feel to bad about hacking the barrel off.

Picked up an pretty sweet bayonet on eBay and a sling as well.

Ordered a heat shield/bayonet lug, magazine plug and rear sling swivel a few days ago. But it'll probably be a month or so till it gets here.

Just want to be prepared in case an Antifa riot gets too close and I fear for my life.View attachment 7136118

Where'd you get the heat shield from? I've got a '97 riot gun I planned on trench-gunning myself.

 

[NC-K9]

East Taylor, LLC, Savannah, Georgia Winchester Trench Gun Bayonet Attachment

After much research online, I decided to go with them. You can get them cheaper, but these are supposed to be top of the line. You have to call to order, but the guy is real nice and helpful if you have any questions.

 

[Son of Dorn]

East Taylor, LLC, Savannah, Georgia Winchester Trench Gun Bayonet Attachment

After much research online, I decided to go with them. You can get them cheaper, but these are supposed to be top of the line. You have to call to order, but the guy is real nice and helpful if you have any questions.

Oh perfect, that's who I was looking at myself. I probably wouldn't even need to pay shipping if he let me drive the 10 minutes to pick it up...

 

[NC-K9]

He (don't think I ever asked his name) seems really nice. I'm sure you can pick it up and pay cash. They do gunsmith work too.

The mounts are made to order though, 5-6 weeks turn around!

 

[Son of Dorn]

Mine does need some interior work. If they can help with that plus install the heat shield for me, all the better!

 

[NC-K9]

It's been just over a week since I ordered mine. I'll be sure to post pics when I get it and after it's blued.

 

[Son of Dorn]

It's been just over a week since I ordered mine. I'll be sure to post pics when I get it and after it's blued.

Heh oh yeah I'll need to refinish this one too. Kinda a pity, I like its patina 119-YO patina, but it needs to be reparked.

 

[NC-K9]

Probably fix ya right up. Be should to let us know how it turns out.

My blueing looks pretty good. I'm just gonna do the shield.

 

[Son of Dorn]

Will do. It's down the list, though. Honestly I may end up keeping this one in riot style and get a takedown model sometime to turn into a trench gun. And then another takedown to keep riot-style for fending off mummies...

 

[NC-K9]

Hahaha Gotta plan accordingly!

 

[NC-K9]

Finally got her done. Heatshield took about 6 weeks to receive. But it is real nice and quality is great. Looks badass without the bayonet too.

Picked up a new spring and follower that allows for 6, 2-3/4, shells.

 

[Son of Dorn]

@NC-K9 I'd forgotten about this thread! It looks great! A while back I talked to some specialty ammo-makers about recreating WWII-load shotshells for me. If you're interested at all, I can look through my emails for the convo and send you their info.

 

[sirhrmechanic]

Some guy on here in the ore-scout days did one of these that was spot on. Wasn’t Arcticlight... but if you find that thread... assuming it exists, there was amazing info on parts, details, etc.

I am still searching for the right Dog of a 97 to chop up. I can’t bring myself to do it to a nice one.

cheers, Sirhr

PS. Well done to the OP!!!

 

[Son of Dorn]

Some guy on here in the ore-scout days did one of these that was spot on. Wasn’t Arcticlight... but if you find that thread... assuming it exists, there was amazing info on parts, details, etc.

I am still searching for the right Dog of a 97 to chop up. I can’t bring myself to do it to a nice one.

cheers, Sirhr

PS. Well done to the OP!!!

https://classicoldwestarms.com/ Mr. Hasser will set you up with any grade of '97 you need. Takedown, solid, riot gun, field gun, pretty, worn. Worth dropping him a line if you're in the market. Bought mine from him, asked for a serviceable full-choke 12GA riot gun that I could convert/refurbish into a trench model for reenacting purposes and not worry about messing up. Not long after I had a ca. 1910 solid-frame riot gun in my hands. Haven't had it worked on yet, though, but it's waited a hundred years to get here and I'm sure it won't mind waiting a few more.

 

[NC-K9]

@NC-K9 I'd forgotten about this thread! It looks great! A while back I talked to some specialty ammo-makers about recreating WWII-load shotshells for me. If you're interested at all, I can look through my emails for the convo and send you their info.

It shoots 2 3/4" shells just fine. I appreciate it though. I don't plan to shoot it very often. I want to put it behind my front door, but I think my wife would have an issue with that. Haha

 

[NC-K9]

That brushed chrome finish looks pretty slick!

 

[pmclaine]

Must......get.....one.......

 

[VSP968]

My favorite bayonet has a shotgun attached to it....

 

[Centuriator]

Very cool.

 

[VSP968]

Don’t get too excited, it’s a CHICOM.

 

[Centuriator]

The Mossberg 590A1 Retrograde is pretty cool looking too.

 

[pmclaine]

Inlands repro is ready to go.

They are a bit spendy.....

Inland Manufacturing M37 Trench Shotgun

Inland Manufacturing M37 Trench Shotgun

www.inland-mfg.com

 

[Centuriator]

Inlands repro is ready to go.

They are a bit spendy.....

Inland Manufacturing M37 Trench Shotgun

Inland Manufacturing M37 Trench Shotgun

www.inland-mfg.com

Um, no, just no.

I'd rather spend $600 on a Mossberg 590A1 Retrograde. Much better shotgun.

 

[pmclaine]

Um, no, just no.

I'd rather spend $600 on a Mossberg 590A1 Retrograde. Much better shotgun.

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Get rid of the rubber butt pad and glossy finish please.

 

[Son of Dorn]

Inlands repro is ready to go.

They are a bit spendy.....

Inland Manufacturing M37 Trench Shotgun

Inland Manufacturing M37 Trench Shotgun

www.inland-mfg.com

I hadn't seen those. Not sure I really want one but I'm glad someone's resurrected them. Now if someone started making clones of the Stevens 520 with that nice squared-off receiver and a proper trench gun setup...

 

[Centuriator]

Get rid of the rubber butt pad and glossy finish please.

Just hacksaw it off, dig a trench, throw it in there and rub dirt on it for that "lived in" look.

 

[Son of Dorn]

@pmclaine Although... Maybe get this one, put an MP-40 style grip on it, and keep it handy for close encounters...

 

[roostercogburn98]

Built this last year. Solid frame 97. New wood, heatshield, and some finish work on metal. Was a nice gun wish I had never traded it. Another one is in my future I feel it.

 

[roostercogburn98]

Built this last year. Solid frame 97. New wood, heatshield, and some finish work on metal. Was a nice gun wish I had never traded it. Another one is in my future I feel it. View attachment 7172929View attachment 7172930View attachment 7172931View attachment 7172932View attachment 7172933

well project 97 happened quicker than I thought. Picked up another 1897 yesterday that should be at the house end of the week or Saturday if FedEx is on time.

 

[NC-K9]

Sweet! You'll have to post up some pics.

 

[roostercogburn98]

@NC-K9 Build gun showed up today and repro heat shield is in the gun room. Will get started soon. Cut the barrel back over the weekend and started fitting/fixing parts

 

[roostercogburn98]

@NC-K9 long time between arrival and finish. Got it finished up and back together. Minor touches and it will be complete

 

[NC-K9]

That looks sweet!
Is the whole gun parkerized?

 

[roostercogburn98]

Thanks, I used duracoat on this one. I am tempted to strip it completely and have it parked though. I found a guy just down the road to do it.

 

[pmclaine]

Thanks, I used duracoat on this one. I am tempted to strip it completely and have it parked though. I found a guy just down the road to do it.

It looks great but it does look duracoated.

Stripping it and parking it would be sweet.

 

[roostercogburn98]

It looks great but it does look duracoated.

Stripping it and parking it would be sweet.

Nothing looks quite like a good parkerizing job for sure. That was my original plan and got sidetracked with a couple other projects. I don’t think I’ll truly be happy until it gets parked though.

 

[pmclaine]

Nothing looks quite like a good parkerizing job for sure. That was my original plan and got sidetracked with a couple other projects. I don’t think I’ll truly be happy until it gets parked though.

Parkerizing is my favorite metal finish...

It patinas nicely and it requires that owner and rifle look after each other in order to stay healthy.

 

[Bcamos]

Damn these are cool. There's something badass about a combat shotgun.

 

[silentwoods]

Sent mine to Bull Creek Arms for a trench gun conversion.
came back perfect. Added a 1917 Remington bayonet, new stock and extractor.
fantastic folks and work. http://bullcreekarms.com

 

[deltawiskey]

Great info in this thread!
I just picked up an 1897 and plan on doing a trench gun conversion...
DW

 

[roostercogburn98]

Great info in this thread!
I just picked up an 1897 and plan on doing a trench gun conversion...
DW

Pic updates if you get a chance. Neat little blasters for sure

 

[deltawiskey]

She is a full choke 12 made in 1916... its not as nice as it looks though. It was re-blued over some rust pits so I won't feel bad about turning it into a trench gun ; )

 

[pmclaine]

She is a full choke 12 made in 1916... its not as nice as it looks though. It was re-blued over some rust pits so I won't feel bad about turning it into a trench gun ; )
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Joe Biden endorses this choice.......

 

[deltawiskey]

Sent mine to Bull Creek Arms for a trench gun conversion.
came back perfect. Added a 1917 Remington bayonet, new stock and extractor.
fantastic folks and work. http://bullcreekarms.com

I like the looks of Bull Creek Arms, I think I will contact them about doing the conversion.
DW

 

[silentwoods]

I like the looks of Bull Creek Arms, I think I will contact them about doing the conversion.
DW

I had a perfect transaction with them. Called them, discussed it in detail, and they returned it pretty quick. I don't remember, it's been awhile now but they had it less than a month.

 

[roostercogburn98]

She is a full choke 12 made in 1916... its not as nice as it looks though. It was re-blued over some rust pits so I won't feel bad about turning it into a trench gun ; )
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Chop it up and make a trench gun twin! Only qualm I had with mine is that it was a solid frame gun. Was actually the second solid frame one I did, so less hesitation the second time around.

 

[rafiki76]

All these trench guns are making me drool and my wallet hurt lol