Wolves surround boys duck hunting.

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    Especially that far north in WI. There ain’t a lot up that way
    About a 1,000 wolves in Wisconsin. I also bet that they get some bleed off from MN's 2,700 population as well. I was harassed by a group of wolves going out to my tree stand opening morning 2006. Northern MN on Potlach paper Company land. Followed me the last half of my trek. Howling and baying back and forth in front and behind me even once on stand. Happy to get into my perch.
     
    About a 1,000 wolves in Wisconsin. I also bet that they get some bleed off from MN's 2,700 population as well. I was harassed by a group of wolves going out to my tree stand opening morning 2006. Northern MN on Potlach paper Company land. Followed me the last half of my trek. Howling and baying back and forth in front and behind me even once on stand. Happy to get into my perch.
    Cougars are what freaks me out, and fucking hogs lol. I got blindsided by a 200lb pig, I got the last laugh with pork steaks.
     
    About a 1,000 wolves in Wisconsin. I also bet that they get some bleed off from MN's 2,700 population as well. I was harassed by a group of wolves going out to my tree stand opening morning 2006. Northern MN on Potlach paper Company land. Followed me the last half of my trek. Howling and baying back and forth in front and behind me even once on stand. Happy to get into my perch.
    I would be equal parts excited/awed and fucking terrified in this situation. Yikes
    Cougars are what freaks me out, and fucking hogs lol. I got blindsided by a 200lb pig, I got the last laugh with pork steaks.
    Lions too. I don’t like it when our lazy worthless house cats get uppity. Something 10x their size and attitude is fucking horrifying. Especially knowing that the CO front range around Denver has so many lions. And even more especially since ones like this exist. This guy is 6’4” and weighs 250lbs…

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    I would be equal parts excited/awed and fucking terrified in this situation. Yikes

    Lions too. I don’t like it when our lazy worthless house cats get uppity. Something 10x their size and attitude is fucking horrifying. Especially knowing that the CO front range around Denver has so many lions. And even more especially since ones like this exist. This guy is 6’4” and weighs 250lbs…

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    My cousin had multiple in his back yard(In an enclosure), fuck those things lol
     
    Thats not normal behavior for wolves. Interesting….
    What is normal behavior? I know for certain that "normal" behavior in the past was for people to kill them so they would almost always run, just like every other animal. I also know that when animals are not hunted, like in Estes Park etc the animals don't run and that is "normal." Are these wolves being hunted? If not, this is going to be "normal."
     
    I would be equal parts excited/awed and fucking terrified in this situation. Yikes

    Lions too. I don’t like it when our lazy worthless house cats get uppity. Something 10x their size and attitude is fucking horrifying. Especially knowing that the CO front range around Denver has so many lions. And even more especially since ones like this exist. This guy is 6’4” and weighs 250lbs…

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    What did you kill it with?
     
    What is normal behavior? I know for certain that "normal" behavior in the past was for people to kill them so they would almost always run, just like every other animal. I also know that when animals are not hunted, like in Estes Park etc the animals don't run and that is "normal." Are these wolves being hunted? If not, this is going to be "normal."
    You hit on the problem at least in MN. Wolves are protected and not hunted. To my understanding, they are responsible for the reduction and almost extinction of Moose and Elk in MN. They should be hunted.
     
    Thats not normal behavior for wolves. Interesting….

    Depends on who you talk to I suppose. I was chatting with the owner of Buffalo Bore ammo years ago, like probably 20 years ago, and he and his wife were surrounded the same way by wolves in Idaho. From what I remember he ended up shooting one that came in for the attack and the rest would not leave. I can’t remember if he ended up shooting more of them or not, but I do remember him saying he reported it, it was investigated, he did not get charged with anything, but did get lots of death threats from the peta types; you know the ones who don’t really go outside, but want to save every animal and have the right to kill their unborn children.

    It would be interesting to see how many attacks like this have taken place every where the wolves have been reintroduced.
     
    Depends on who you talk to I suppose. I was chatting with the owner of Buffalo Bore ammo years ago, like probably 20 years ago, and he and his wife were surrounded the same way by wolves in Idaho. From what I remember he ended up shooting one that came in for the attack and the rest would not leave. I can’t remember if he ended up shooting more of them or not, but I do remember him saying he reported it, it was investigated, he did not get charged with anything, but did get lots of death threats from the peta types; you know the ones who don’t really go outside, but want to save every animal and have the right to kill their unborn children.

    It would be interesting to see how many attacks like this have taken place every where the wolves have been reintroduced.
    I camped a lot in Alaska/canada area. Summer months. The wolves never bothered me. The howls are unnerving as hell granted. I guess it all depends. Had more trouble with mountain lions in the Sierra Nevadas.

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    You hit on the problem at least in MN. Wolves are protected and not hunted. To my understanding, they are responsible for the reduction and almost extinction of Moose and Elk in MN. They should be hunted.
    MN DNR has fucked up everything they've touched for 80 years. Fitting, as MN is generally under Blue oppression because everybody that lives in the metro areas are commies. A national embarrassment.
     
    You hit on the problem at least in MN. Wolves are protected and not hunted. To my understanding, they are responsible for the reduction and almost extinction of Moose and Elk in MN. They should be hunted.
    They should be managed, not just hunted

    We’re dealing with this in CO right now. I feel so torn about it too. I love the idea of possibly seeing wolves while we’re out doing something in the mountains. However… I also understand where the farmers/ranchers are coming from. I wouldn’t want to lose any animals to any predators and I damn sure don’t want some pencil-necked gov bureaucrats telling me how or how not to manage my land
     
    About a 1,000 wolves in Wisconsin. I also bet that they get some bleed off from MN's 2,700 population as well. I was harassed by a group of wolves going out to my tree stand opening morning 2006. Northern MN on Potlach paper Company land. Followed me the last half of my trek. Howling and baying back and forth in front and behind me even once on stand. Happy to get into my perch.
    Yeah, I can tell you that number is COMPLETE horseshit. We see them constantly, tracks everywhere. Even in the south-central parts of the state, they are now present. Honestly, it’s probably more like 5,000, but I wouldn’t say 10,000 is an unreasonable estimate. Just look at how fast the hunters blew the quota during the last legal wolf hunt, it was like less than 3 days for 216 wolves. No way hunters eliminated a quarter of the entire population in 3 days, that’s just garbage.

    The return of wolves has completely decimated public land deer hunting in northern WI from what it uses to be. The big bucks are gone. Which isn’t surprising because those 3-4+YO bucks tend to inhabit the same remote places that the wolf packs gravitate to. After the rut, those bucks are wore out and become easy prey. By WI DNR’s own admission, a wolf eats 20 deer a year. So a pack of 12 eats 240 deer a year. That’s a huge impact on local chunks of National Forest!!

    I never bowhunt without a gun now, way too much risk. Cattle and hunting dogs getting killed constantly. It’s only a matter of time before it’s a kid, seriously. That is absolutely coming. These fucking moron judges in Madison and other liberal cities that protect them are lucky that 19yo had his head screwed on straight, cause there could easily have been blood on their hands with the younger ones in the blind. Trap the wolves and turn them loose in fucking Madison and see what happens then.
     
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    Only the government could possibly be dumb enough to try to reintroduce elk into WI, at the same time as wolves. They claim they didn’t reintroduce the wolves but I don’t believe that for a second.

    They spent all this money to plant elk in Clam Lake, and over the like 15yr span of the program have seen next to zero population growth due to mortality. The two biggest causes of elk death are wolves and cars. And guess what, the wolves are the reason all the elk are standing on HWY 13 all day. The whole thing is the biggest waste of tax dollars ever.

    The DNR KNOWS they’ve committed a giant fuckup. I once saw a pie graph of fawn mortality by predation in a WI DNR annual herd report ( or similiar document, but it was def created by the state). The pie was broken up by predator. Bear, coyote, bobcat, fox, and some others all had their own pie slices, comprising 2/3rds of the pie. The last third was “other predators”. Fucking wolves didn’t have a slice on the graph. The assholes know.
     
    MN DNR has fucked up everything they've touched for 80 years. Fitting, as MN is generally under Blue oppression because everybody that lives in the metro areas are commies. A national embarrassment.
    FWC (FL) is likewise superb at fucking everything up. they do get a lot of help here from the feds. their corruption is also a factor.
     
    In northern Idaho, the feds reintroduced wolves and nobody was supposed to be shooting them for quite a few years. They thrived and had litter after litter. The wolves got so they were not too much afraid of human activity. Around Weippe and the Cavendish area, we would see them just off of the road and many times right in the road. No fear, just watch you drive by. Not far from town and I would bet money they were in town at night. They decimated the mule deer population and elk herds.

    Once a season was opened up, they figured it out real fast. It's too not hard to find and see wolves but at least they are mostly staying away from the towns.

    In Alaska, they pretty much stayed away from the villages. Guys there hunted and trapped them with vigor and gusto. There were always wolves around when the Caribou herds were migrating and pretty easy picking then. I shot a big black one and had it tanned...unfortunately, not very professionally. I no longer have it.

    I don't think there are any wolves near where I live now in Oklahoma. That's ok with me. I've seen enough of them. No griz either and that's definitely ok with me. I do have a bunch of coyotes I am just now getting to work on but I think the worst thing I have encountered, the thing that really gives me the heeby jeebies are the fucking scorpions and tarantulas and black widow spiders and the fucking copperheads and the fucking water moccasins (these fuckers are aggressive and will try to get in the boat while you are fishing). I'd rather have the wolf around than these snakes and bugs.

    At 0200 about 2 months ago this fucker had a head and my bird dog was going crazy. I got him at too close range in my tightey whiteys and flip flops in the driveway under my old truck. About 54".

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    They should be managed, not just hunted

    We’re dealing with this in CO right now. I feel so torn about it too. I love the idea of possibly seeing wolves while we’re out doing something in the mountains. However… I also understand where the farmers/ranchers are coming from. I wouldn’t want to lose any animals to any predators and I damn sure don’t want some pencil-necked gov bureaucrats telling me how or how not to manage my land
    One year of wolves in CO and they already reduced the number of elk tags in those units because of "high winter kill rates." Something I haven't seen in my 40years of hunting CO. Wait till they start finding all the retarded elk in Estes Park.
     
    “...This wolf that was five yards behind us went off into the woods, came down, and then grabbed this wolf that I shot by the neck and started dragging it off. I’ve never witnessed something like that,”

    I'm going to play the contrarian here and say that's sad. He never witnessed that because he's never shot a wolf, obviously one of the alpha pack leaders, and it's lifelong mate came to rescue it. It will most likely never mate again and will mourn that loss the rest of it's life.

    Yeah, I like wolves and coyotes.
     
    They should be managed, not just hunted

    We’re dealing with this in CO right now. I feel so torn about it too. I love the idea of possibly seeing wolves while we’re out doing something in the mountains. However… I also understand where the farmers/ranchers are coming from. I wouldn’t want to lose any animals to any predators and I damn sure don’t want some pencil-necked gov bureaucrats telling me how or how not to manage my land
    I say hunting with the understanding that hunting any species is a part of management.
     
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    Heh, if i had been circled, id have smoked as many as i could. Next person might not be so lucky.

    Someone shot one in Az recently and f&g offered a reward for information.

    I have talked to numereous game wardens in az, they all lie about the wolves, like there were trained to or something. I always trip them up. I've seen at least 3 wolves on separate locations, in units where they say "there is no wolves". Just more lying goverment employees.
     
    I wish, but that’s not me. That’s Derek Wolfe, he used to play for the Broncos. He retired a few years ago from the league and came back here to live and hunt
    The size of those paws and arms...bigger than Mr. Wolfe's. HUGE....you don't stand a chance against that stalker. As bad as wolves, bear, and razorbacks/wild boar are on my 'scary' list, nothing freaks me out like the potential for being stalked by a mountain lion or just being jumped (like from a tree).
     
    I say hunting with the understanding that hunting any species is a part of management.
    Right on. I’ve seen quite a few people say that they just all need to be wiped out again and I can’t get on board with that
    The size of those paws and arms...bigger than Mr. Wolfe's. HUGE....you don't stand a chance against that stalker. As bad as wolves, bear, and razorbacks/wild boar are on my 'scary' list, nothing freaks me out like the potential for being stalked by a mountain lion or just being jumped (like from a tree).
    He talked about it on Rogan and said it was 170-ish(can’t remember the exact #) pounds after it was gutted and drained of blood
     
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    Right on. I’ve seen quite a few people say that they just all need to be wiped out again and I can’t get on board with that

    He talked about it on Rogan and said it was 170-ish(can’t remember the exact #) pounds after it was gutted and drained of blood
    Friend killed one on a bear hunt in northern Canada.
    Said it was in the 175# area.
    Until one has spent time amongst them truly understanding them is left up to what has been taught.
    One can either have big game hunting dollars or wolves, not both.

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    Yeah, I can tell you that number is COMPLETE horseshit. We see them constantly, tracks everywhere. Even in the south-central parts of the state, they are now present. Honestly, it’s probably more like 5,000, but I wouldn’t say 10,000 is an unreasonable estimate. Just look at how fast the hunters blew the quota during the last legal wolf hunt, it was like less than 3 days for 216 wolves. No way hunters eliminated a quarter of the entire population in 3 days, that’s just garbage.

    The return of wolves has completely decimated public land deer hunting in northern WI from what it uses to be. The big bucks are gone. Which isn’t surprising because those 3-4+YO bucks tend to inhabit the same remote places that the wolf packs gravitate to. After the rut, those bucks are wore out and become easy prey. By WI DNR’s own admission, a wolf eats 20 deer a year. So a pack of 12 eats 240 deer a year. That’s a huge impact on local chunks of National Forest!!

    I never bowhunt without a gun now, way too much risk. Cattle and hunting dogs getting killed constantly. It’s only a matter of time before it’s a kid, seriously. That is absolutely coming. These fucking moron judges in Madison and other liberal cities that protect them are lucky that 19yo had his head screwed on straight, cause there could easily have been blood on their hands with the younger ones in the blind. Trap the wolves and turn them loose in fucking Madison and see what happens then.
    THIS!
     
    “...This wolf that was five yards behind us went off into the woods, came down, and then grabbed this wolf that I shot by the neck and started dragging it off. I’ve never witnessed something like that,”

    I'm going to play the contrarian here and say that's sad. He never witnessed that because he's never shot a wolf, obviously one of the alpha pack leaders, and it's lifelong mate came to rescue it. It will most likely never mate again and will mourn that loss the rest of it's life.

    Yeah, I like wolves and coyotes.
    More than likely it drug it off and ate it. I have head of them doing it and have witnessed coyotes doing it.
     
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    Only the government could possibly be dumb enough to try to reintroduce elk into WI, at the same time as wolves. They claim they didn’t reintroduce the wolves but I don’t believe that for a second.

    They spent all this money to plant elk in Clam Lake, and over the like 15yr span of the program have seen next to zero population growth due to mortality. The two biggest causes of elk death are wolves and cars. And guess what, the wolves are the reason all the elk are standing on HWY 13 all day. The whole thing is the biggest waste of tax dollars ever.

    The DNR KNOWS they’ve committed a giant fuckup. I once saw a pie graph of fawn mortality by predation in a WI DNR annual herd report ( or similiar document, but it was def created by the state). The pie was broken up by predator. Bear, coyote, bobcat, fox, and some others all had their own pie slices, comprising 2/3rds of the pie. The last third was “other predators”. Fucking wolves didn’t have a slice on the graph. The assholes know.
    I live in Burnett country close to where you are talking about...SSS
     
    “...This wolf that was five yards behind us went off into the woods, came down, and then grabbed this wolf that I shot by the neck and started dragging it off. I’ve never witnessed something like that,”

    I'm going to play the contrarian here and say that's sad. He never witnessed that because he's never shot a wolf, obviously one of the alpha pack leaders, and it's lifelong mate came to rescue it. It will most likely never mate again and will mourn that loss the rest of it's life.

    Yeah, I like wolves and coyotes.
    Good. One less biach making pups. The only good wolf is a dead wolf. Our forefathers were smarter than people today.