Would you let Peyton Manning leave?

[ZLBubba]

Peyton Manning situation analysis

I'm a big Colts fan, always have been since I grew up in southeastern Indiana. Peyton Manning's future in Indy is really a conundrum considering how much money he's to be paid, that he's been injured (and may not yet be healthy), and the fact that Indy has the number one draft pick this year.

Manning's made it clear that he wants to stay in Indy for the rest of his career, but you can see in the interview that he disagrees with how Jim Irsay is running the Colts organization right now. This is one of those moments for an iconic player where he recognizes that professional football is a business, but hopes that all his commitment to the team and city makes the circumstances rise above the bottom line.

I never want to see Manning in another uniform, but there may be no other option unless both sides compromise a bit. I think there are a number of teams with the right supporting cast for him to make a Super Bowl contender. But since he's not healthy, and Indy does have the number one draft, and he's got a huge pay option coming up, big decisions are going to be made fairly soon.

 

[fx77]

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I would let him go
He had serious neck issues, and has been out a long time.
He is not young...
I would not want to see him paralyzed from continued football play.
Three surgeries..his neck is not normal..

 

[Immorteq]

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This is gonna be GB 2.0 imo. Favre kept his job a couple years longer than he should have there. If Luck is as good as the hype, I can see this panning out like Rodgers and Favre if the front office allow it. Manning is a classy guy. It'll be interesting to see how he handles the situation.

 

[ZLBubba]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Immorteq</div><div class="ubbcode-body">This is gonna be GB 2.0 imo. Favre kept his job a couple years longer than he should have there. If Luck is as good as the hype, I can see this panning out like Rodgers and Favre if the front office allow it. Manning is a classy guy. It'll be interesting to see how he handles the situation. </div></div>

I think you're on to something here. I honestly think Manning has a couple good seasons left in him, but he's isn't the future of the Colts organization. Still, so many QBs get drafted early that don't pan out. Anyone remember when the Cincinnati Bengals picked David Klingler? How about Ryan Leaf? QBs are a risky venture.

Nonetheless, it looks like the two sides are too far apart to make a deal happen without compromise on one or both their parts. Hell, I think Manning is great but I'd have a hard time paying him the bonus with his future up in the air.

We'll see how it turns out.

 

[Takashi]

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I think Peyton is worth a lot to the colts as a person, and I feel Andrew Luck could use a good mentor.

 

[GasLight]

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I wonder if he will ever recover from the neck thing. If you look at his brother Cooper, that's why he couldn't play. Maybe there is something hereditary there. It is entirely possible that Peyton could never play again, I am hopeful that isn't the case as he has a few great years left if he recovers as planned. That said, even with Luck coming in, I am thinking the Colts should keep him around just to help develop Luck. They can't really pass on Luck without Manning being 100% and I don't think anyone believe he is that at this time.... Too much uncertainty to say keep him or not at this point

 

[t0kie]

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Assuming that he's gtg for playing then Colts need to keep & play him because I trully believe he still have it.
The question now: how is he gonna hold up against the fast hard hitting NFL defense remain to be seen & the risk of getting another serious injury?

I've seen Andrew Luck playing & to me he's a great & a smart QB that ever played in NCAAF, but as we all know NFL is a totally different than NCAAF. He needs to sit & learn before going out there & if he goes to Indy then it is great to learn from one of the best in the business.

 

[Toast]

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Peyton was done playing last year. He needs to coach now.

 

[--BLACKOUT--]

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Peyton is one of the best QB's in the game. BUT, with the injury he's had that 3 surgeries couldn't fix is a huge gamble for the Colts. The NFL is a business and as in Jerry McGuire, it's "show business" not "show friends." The Colts will unload Manning in order to reload the team. Most, if not all of the coaching staff that Peyton played under is gone. He could go to another team but who's going to take a chance and potentially get him hurt even worse?? I'm sure there are a few teams that will ring out what's left in him but again, that's the business side of the game.

I've never really liked or disliked Manning but I do respect the way he played the game and the way he carried himself as a pro athlete. Always sucks to see this type of thing happen to a player like this. In the end, that's life. Hope all ends well for him whether he plays again or doesn't.

 

[Dagsta]

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Yes from a business standpoint Colts cant afford Peyton. He's a Nawlins boy and I'm proud of him and his career. If I were the Colts owner no way I could justify that kind of money on a questionable player.

NFL is all about the money. loyalty, commitment, and all that other high school and college Rah Rah goes out the window.

 

[GasLight]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dagsta</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Yes from a business standpoint Colts cant afford Peyton. He's a Nawlins boy and I'm proud of him and his career. If I were the Colts owner no way I could justify that kind of money on a questionable player.

NFL is all about the money. loyalty, commitment, and all that other high school and college Rah Rah goes out the window.</div></div>

I can completely agree with all of this, except as a business man, I would sure want to see that Luck can transition to the big time before I threw a legend out with the bath water... that is of course assuming Peyton can suit and play next year at all.

 

[BoilerUP]

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I don't think the first two surgeries Peyton had were spinal fusions, like the last one was.

Multiple sports docs say athletes can fully recover from spinal fusions and actually be stronger than they were before, without being more prone to injury.

With Polian & Caldwell gone, I kind of expect to see Peyton gone too. It'd be a crying shame, but then again its not like the Irsays haven't had entire cities and states royally pissed off at them before after a 'business decision'...

I'd rather see RG3 in a Colts uniform than Luck...but that's just me.

 

[GasLight]

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[In2b8u]

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Favorite Manning spoof.....

 

[former naval person]

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No. He needs to say NO. Paralysis is forever. I've seen it and it ain't anything you'd want to have.

 

[ZLBubba]

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I guess Jim Irsay got his panties in a bunch after Manning's public statements. I have a feeling that Manning has expressed these sentiments "in the family" before but obviously to no effect. What bothers me is that Irsay is definitely cleaning house, but doesn't expect to alienate his organization in doing so? The Colts had one bad year, so he fires both Polians, Caldwell, and most of the coaching staff. No shit players have a problem with that.

I like the idea of drafting Luck, keeping Manning on to tutor Luck for a few more years, and letting Manning retire as a Colt. Then again, it isn't my money that I'm risking.

 

[BoilerUP]

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After this week's spat between Irsay & Manning, its clear to me that Manning is gone...regardless of health. Irsay is cleaning house, and as such I don't expect many of the free agent veterans they have to be back either.

That said, it wouldn't surprise me if Manning opted to forego some or all of his $28M bonus in order to remain a Colt.

 

[ZLBubba]

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A new NY Times article on whether Irsay will cut Peyton loose. Keeping him will be tough if Manning doesn't budge on the bonus. I tend to agree that Irsay will justify cutting Manning since he won't be 100% healthy. It's the safest play, but as the article states, it's the end of a golden era for the Colts organization.

 

[Olivers_AR]

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Colts should do what it takes to keep Manning while working on a front line that can protect him.

 

[Jthompson]

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I would try to keep him and trade the number 1 pick

 

[PharmShooter]

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There is no question that Manning will not play in Indy.

 

[matchking]

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I would let him go. Of course, I never would have let Bledsoe go in New England - so what do I know!

 

[Finris]

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I have had a lot of respect for Manning. But its time to hang it up and coach. 3 neck surgeries and their is nothing writ in stone saying he can even play, or he won't get hurt first play of the game next season if they do keep him. 28 million is a huge some on the teams salary cap. I would let him go if he didn't want to budge on the bonus. Luck well can anyone say Tebow2. I'm sorry but that is what I see. I would never wast a first round pick on him. The colts need a QB that can nearly just step in and take over. That means a backup already in the NFL or get some ones who is solid out of college. The only QB I think that can make the transition is Weeden from Oklahoma state."I will run and hide now"!

 

[SledDog]

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The Colts have an opportunity to move from one franchise qb right to another. Ask Miami how cool that would have been.

IMHO you cut Manning, draft and start Luck, spend your 28mm on the best FA linemen.

 

[wlwaldock]

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Yes they can't rebuild enough before he is off his game. The 28mm also slows down any free agency acquisitions. Time to think about future and they got #1. Plus if I'm Peyton I go somewhere with the possibility of getting a ring or two in the next 3-4 years

 

[tylerw02]

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I'm not a big football fan, honestly. But I am a baseball fan. I was glad to see Albert Pujols leave St. Louis, much for the same reasons.

St. Louis couldn't afford him for what he wanted.

His claims of loyalty, loving the fans, etc. were all proven to be garbage. Pujols has more than enough money that he and his entire family could be cushy for as long as they live, yet he gave up St. Louis and their fans for warm weather, first class seats, and suits, and a few hundred thousand a year more after taxes.

Pujols was well on his way to being a franchise player. If he'd stayed in St. Louis, he'd have retained that image and fans would remember his first ten years as much as his second ten years, where he will undoubtedly give up his old numbers due to health, age, and all the rest. He will be resented by teammates that don't get the special treatment on planes and in hotels he does. Coaches will be afraid to coach him and help his performance, because he's the money player. You won't see a Pujols statue outside Anaheim's stadium. There was a spot right waiting for him next to Stan the Man in St. Louis.

Payton Manning can be loved for the rings in Indy. He can be judged on his whole career there, rather than his "twilight years" somewhere else. If the money is worth it to him, he'll be gone. The team's future doesn't lay with him just as St. Louis' didn't lie with Albert Pujols.

 

[UKDslayer]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BoilerUP</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I don't think the first two surgeries Peyton had were spinal fusions, like the last one was.

Multiple sports docs say athletes can fully recover from spinal fusions and actually be stronger than they were before, without being more prone to injury.
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Tito Ortiz went back to MMA after a lumbar spinal fusion, which are much more difficult to recover fully from than a neck fusion.