Would you recommend the M1A?

[MK14 SEI]

Re: Would you recommend the M1A?

The SAGE EBR accuracy system shims your gas system, tension beds
the action and semi free floats the barrel forward of the guide block.
There is a screw at the very front of the top rail that will put downward pressure on the barrel.
Typically, a 3 MOA standard or loaded rifle becomes a 1.5 MOA rifle just by installing it in a SAGE EBR.
A 2 MOA rifle becomes a 1 MOA rifle...

 

[viav13]

Re: Would you recommend the M1A?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Birddog1911</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: viav13</div><div class="ubbcode-body">...308 is well over $1 a round now, and if your just putting holes in targets it might not be worth it. Its not a plinking gun(at least for me)...
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I don't know what kind of ammo you're buying, but if your paying $1 a round, you're getting raped! Do better searching, and you can find it for around half that. </div></div>


Did a little looking around and all I could find under the dollar a round mark is crap. Wolf and a other import stuff I wouldn't fire through anything I own.

Even if your gonna want to fire holes in paper, your probably gonna want good ones. That means using the premium stuff. Not 147gr surplus.

Try to find some Federal PGM or Black Hills 168gr or 175gr SMK's under $1 a round. Send me a link if you get it. Hell post it. I think a lot of people would be interested in that.

 

[Birddog1911]

Re: Would you recommend the M1A?

No, I was referring to surplus, as you didn't specify match ammo in your original topic. Yes, you're not going to find match for under $1 a round. But if I do, I'll let you know...after I buy most of it!

Edited to add: This is why I reload everything, even my 147grn plinking ammo. I doubt that I'm saving much making my plinking ammo, but then, it is more accurate than surplus.

 

[viav13]

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Yeah, I'm starting to get into reloading for that reason. Need to save some money and feed the machine.

 

[Birddog1911]

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Sorry to take this off topic, OP, but it will apply to you as well. I can't speak to how others load for the M1A, but I use a single stage for my loads for it. Too many things need to be checked individually, proper sizing for headspace, primer seating depth, and on and on. Maybe if I ever figure out a progressive, it won't be such a big deal. But I like being able to inspect and charge every load by hand.

 

[Travis S]

Re: Would you recommend the M1A?

Spend the extra coin and get a sai loaded model if you want a full size. You can always have rebarreled by them with the scout tube down the road. It'll get you a better trigger, better sights and a nm flash supressor, as well as a med wt barrel. You can also get the tube cut back and use a vortex fh or what ever aftermarket one you want. Would also give more options for adding a can down the road.

 

[Snakum]

Re: Would you recommend the M1A?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Sterling Shooter</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Yeah, I like the M1A, if it's NRA LR you want to explore with something you can shoot in Service Rifle division. Otherwise, what's the point? Sincerely, I just don't get the fantacy folks have with guns like the M1A "SOCOM". What, being prepared to Make Night of the Living Dead part two a very short movie?</div></div>

Sig worthy.

And from what I've seen ... if you want a shooter either buy an AR-10 platform or be prepared to drop major coinage getting an M1 or M1A up to snuff. Some do and never regret it. Who says rifle purchases have to be logical?

 

[MK14 SEI]

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I did buy an AR-10 platform and sold it to build another M14.
I just don't get the fantasy folks have with the AR-10 platform.

 

[JWHITE]

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I am new to the M1A myself, but won't be for long. I picked up a standard model on accident and have installed a scope mount and am waiting on a 3-9x 40 trijicon accupoint for it. As soon as I get it all together I'll let you know how it is.

As far as the iron sights go it is very easy to shoot with relatively fast follow ups. I haven't owned it long but I think I could join the others and say it will be the last one to go.

 

[viav13]

Re: Would you recommend the M1A?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Birddog1911</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Sorry to take this off topic, OP, but it will apply to you as well. I can't speak to how others load for the M1A, but I use a single stage for my loads for it. Too many things need to be checked individually, proper sizing for headspace, primer seating depth, and on and on. Maybe if I ever figure out a progressive, it won't be such a big deal. But I like being able to inspect and charge every load by hand. </div></div>

That's what I'm gonna do, single stage. I'm just starting out though. From what I understand it can be a little tricky to reload for semi's. especially the M1A. You can't make them to light because they won't move the bolt. To hot and you bend the piston, or worse.

 

[Snakum]

Re: Would you recommend the M1A?

It's not a "fantasy" that just about any decent AR-10 is more accurate than a base M1A. That's just how it is. The Match versions are stellar, but they are a whole lot more than the basic rifle.

But as I said, gun purchases don't have to be logical. Most of mine weren't.

If you want an M1A, get one and enjoy it. I'd love to have Springfield's M21 Match model with the match barrel and adjustable wooden stock that I read a review on recently in one of the gun rags. I just don't have $3000 to spare.

 

[BattleAxe]

Re: Would you recommend the M1A?

There's no fantasy when it comes to an AR-10 platform. They is what they is, and the SPEC-OPS community apparently agrees. The "fantasy" is nothing more than the natural progression for all military weapons...people will want them. Hell, I'll take 5 please with everything on them

 

[Birddog1911]

Re: Would you recommend the M1A?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BattleAxe</div><div class="ubbcode-body">There's no fantasy when it comes to an AR-10 platform. They is what they is, and the SPEC-OPS community apparently agrees. The "fantasy" is nothing more than the natural progression for all military weapons...people will want them. Hell, I'll take 5 please with everything on them

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Okay, you take 5 of the AR-10s, and I'll take those poor, ol', wore out M-14s!

 

[BattleAxe]

Re: Would you recommend the M1A?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Birddog1911</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Okay, you take 5 of the AR-10s, and I'll take those poor, ol', wore out M-14s! </div></div>

I'm not saying anything bad about the M14. I love them, own one, and would own 5 of them as well if I could afford them.

 

[MK14 SEI]

Re: Would you recommend the M1A?

As I said, I once owned a real nice AR-10 SPR. The rifle functioned just fine, but it had no soul and it was much heavier than expected... no lighter than MK14 Mod 0 and there are too many different makers of the AR-10 - parts and magazine interchangeability is problematic.

I sold that AR-10 and had SEI build me another MK14... No regrets.

 

[Agent Ronin]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: H2O MAN</div><div class="ubbcode-body">As I said, I once owned a real nice AR-10 SPR. The rifle functioned just fine, but it had no soul and it was much heavier than expected... no lighter than MK14 Mod 0 and there are too many different makers of the AR-10 - parts and magazine interchangeability is problematic.

I sold that AR-10 and had SEI build me another MK14...<span style="font-weight: bold"> No regrets.</span> </div></div>

Sure there are plenty of things to regret when you buy your first M1A/M14...

My regret is they multiplied haha. 1 Standard, 1 Krieger barreled built by Fulton Armory in a JAE-100 stock, and one Socom 16. Currently waiting my LRB M-25 receiver which has been on order since august.

 

[BattleAxe]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Agent Ronin</div><div class="ubbcode-body">....1 Krieger barreled built by Fulton Armory in a JAE-100 stock </div></div>

What are your impressions of the JAE-100? I have one on order for my national match that should arrive in about 2 weeks.

 

[BattleAxe]

Re: Would you recommend the M1A?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: H2O MAN</div><div class="ubbcode-body">... The rifle functioned just fine, but it had no soul.</div></div> I probably could aqgree with that statement. My LRT-SASS is an amazing weapon by any definition but there's an indefinable quality particular to the M1A that words can't express. "Soul" is a very good description. I'd still be torn if I had to give one of them up though...not sure which way I'd go.

 

[Prairie Dog Dundee]

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Ronin:
How do you like the Fulton? Accuracy?

 

[MK14 SEI]

Re: Would you recommend the M1A?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Agent Ronin</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: H2O MAN</div><div class="ubbcode-body">As I said, I once owned a real nice AR-10 SPR. The rifle functioned just fine, but it had no soul and it was much heavier than expected... no lighter than MK14 Mod 0 and there are too many different makers of the AR-10 - parts and magazine interchangeability is problematic.

I sold that AR-10 and had SEI build me another MK14...<span style="font-weight: bold"> No regrets.</span> </div></div>

Sure there are plenty of things to regret when you buy your first M1A/M14...

Mine regret is they multiplied haha. </div></div>

I know what you mean... I have four Smith Enterprise builds and I am working on two more

 

[Agent Ronin]

Re: Would you recommend the M1A?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BattleAxe</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Agent Ronin</div><div class="ubbcode-body">....1 Krieger barreled built by Fulton Armory in a JAE-100 stock </div></div>

What are your impressions of the JAE-100? I have one on order for my national match that should arrive in about 2 weeks. </div></div>

I love mine, yes its heavy but well balanced in my opinion. The lug slides are a little difficult to get the receiver in and out the first few times. The barrel tensioner is an outstanding feature of that stock. It actually does make a big difference!

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Prairie Dog Dundee</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Ronin:
How do you like the Fulton? Accuracy? </div></div>

I had Clint rebuild my SAI Loaded since i could never really get it to shoot all that well. First, he found that my SAI receiver was out of spec (missing the left locking lug, bad casting) Fulton took care of the receiver swap with SAI while it was there and fitted it with a Kreiger Medium barrel. It shoots very well, but i have a lot of trouble with scope mount alignment (not Fulton's fault) which is why i have a LRB M25 receiver on order. Although I would not hesitate to go back to Fulton for future work i think I am going to get Smith Enterprises to build my LRB Receiver for me.

 

[MuleShoer]

Re: Would you recommend the M1A?

My 3 cents. I never planned on owning an M1A, The Turtle ran a post for a very specila Super Match and the rest is history in the making. My problm is I shoot an SR25 match that is consistent .5moa / 100yd. Its a pretty cool rifle on top of it.
But the M1A is rapidly gaining an equal spot, it is not as accurate in its NM stock but because it is plan fun. I just don't seem to worry about, it kinda takes care of its self. I know there are possible issue but I haven't seen any yet. The two are quite opposie. I am now even thinking of going with a JAE and optics
If this continues then the SR may have to find a new home.
Saturday they can both fight it out at Rays

 

[TORQ]

Re: Would you recommend the M1A?

good guns, id go with an ar10 personally but cant go wrong with an m1a

 

[unrepentant]

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God, I love my M1A. I've shot the barrel out of it, I think. I'm just barely holding 1.25MOA now (scoped of course; I'm too blind to see 50 yard Bulls now with irons), out of a Super Match mounted in a JAE stock. When I first got it 10 years ago, I could hold at a practical .7MOA in practice out to 3 or 400yd. (Best I ever got out of it was .119 MOA [one one nine] but I never came close again--dunno how I did it, and with a witness, too; next best group was high .4-something, and the next by that was a high .5 a few times) Now it's got about 2800 rounds through I'd guess; that's my last recollection before Hurricane Katrina destroyed my records.

It's cost a lot of money to make even the Super Match a premium shooter--(top line) glass (for me, at least), and a good bedding job in the McMillan M3A stock by GAP before I moved to the JAE. Obviously all that ain't *necessary* just to get a good average shooter outta an M1A, but when it was in its' prime, it shot like a house afire.

I did it all 'cause of nostalgia. I've got a GAP Rem700 that'd keep groups 50% smaller for half the price, and a GAP Armalite AR-10 that shot .7s with Federal Match OEMs @ 100yd during break-in. That Armalite cost me $2300 + glass.

Ya really gotta like the M1A a whole lot to bite it for the lesser accuracy it offers.

 

[Downzero]

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I miss my M1A. It wasn't worth the $1800 that I sold it for, but there's something irrationally awesome about owning one. I'll have another one day.

 

[Leppy311]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BattleAxe</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Highly recommend them. Once you sort through all the varied opinions and comparisons to AR-based platforms (some of which are valid) they're just still not an M1A. Personally I think it's an apples and oranges comparison. Guys in the sand box will beg, borrow, and steal for one and that says it all.

My Springfield NM is undergoing surgery right now and soon will look like this...

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I've got a wish list that's about a mile long, but one of these is definitely near the top of my list