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Would you say this is manslaughter?

Ronws

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    Cops shot a tranny who had called them to avoid being kidnapped.

    We all know of the cops doing bad things and killing people. Does this count because the person was trans? Or is it justified as a matter of hastening the meeting of the Tranny with God. Who is doing a favor for whom?

     
    Strip away the details of the person because it doesn't matter nearly as much as the behavior that led them to shoot her...him..it? Kinda partially seems like suicide by cop. Doesn't matter that person was trans, if they were straight, man, woman, monkey, politician, they approached armed police with a knife, they're likely to get blasted by the cops.
     
    On this one I'd kind of decide to let the courts figure it out.

    Police versus people having a mental health breakdown usually doesn't end well for the not police side of the equation.

    "Victims" of trafficking and sexual assault aren't usually expected or supposed to go waving knives at police and telling them to get away...
     
    A while ago, shortly after the end of the Carboniferous Period when the first land reptiles began to evolve, Active Self Protection and other YT/Rumble channels specializing in CCW defense related legal and safety issues, had STRESSED that no matter who you are, if you are not in any LE uniform after a defensive shooting or you just neutralized an active shooter, and you are waiting for first responders to arrive, you first and foremost make sure that your gun is holstered and out of sight. You NEVER greet first responders with any weapon in hand. If you used a rifle or shotgun, make sure it is slung behind you and both your hands are presented empty towards the officers. This is especially important in active shooter calls because once armed first responders arrive, EVERYONE who is visibly armed will be a tango to them.
     
    I would say any MAN so far gone he would call himself a woman AND become a low-end hooker is going to be hard to help.

    I'm a lawyer, but I have done almost no criminal defense. That being said, generally, you are entitled to use deadly force against anyone who comes at you with a knife, no matter how crazy they are. If a 6-month-old baby could manage to rush you with a knife, it would be legal to shoot.

    The standard is reasonable fear of serious bodily harm or death, and where I live, you can also throw in things like rape, arson to an occupied structure, and, oddly, treason. If a crazy person puts you in serious danger, you can shoot. If a good Samaritan mistakes you for a criminal, you can shoot. You can even shoot the police if they make a mistake, but they will plant a gun on you and lie like crazy, so good luck with that.

    The treason thing has always amazed me. How likely are you to run into someone who is about to commit treason?

    I'm allowed to shoot burglars before they get through doors and windows, so that's pretty neat. If your head is in my house, say goodbye to your behind. I can kill carjackers, too.

    It would be nice if we had resources to contain crazies instead of shooting them, but if we did, we would do the same thing for people who are just plain bad. It's like telling cops to shoot people in the leg. Not practical.
     
    It was definitely 5150 and suicidal and my SD training supports a "good shoot" outcome however; it is also clear that with that many officers responding, one or two of them could have deployed a taser to take control of the situation. Why it took 20 days to die is a mystery but suggests sepsis or other post-surgery complications. Unknown is the influence of drugs on Linda, both recreational before the incident and after arrival at the hospital. In the end Linda created the entire scenario, was FN out of her head and shot when yielding a knife. Could have been handled better IMHO but have no sympathy for crazies this out of control. Mental illness and suicide is quite common among trans people. I would exonerate the officer and require additional training for all officers involved. I do digital SD scenario training that is quite helpful and forces you to use the 8" between your ears. On my birthday I was allowed to try my hand in law enforcement scenarios, which get the blood pumping...cops are waaay underpaid.
     
    Cops shot a tranny who had called them to avoid being kidnapped.

    We all know of the cops doing bad things and killing people. Does this count because the person was trans? Or is it justified as a matter of hastening the meeting of the Tranny with God. Who is doing a favor for whom?

    Soma Snakeoil? Fucking fake name.
     
    I sometimes don't understand how this group reacts. This is no different than the other police overreactions that are discussed in the Pit. It could have been handled differently.

    If this were a heterosexual female, everyone would be singing a different tune.

    You're all Christians, so remember that Judas ate too.
     
    It's my understanding that a police officer has no duty to protect. So why in a situation like this couldn't they just back out of the doorway and close the door behind themselves.
    Thats what I thought. Just back out and shut the door like the anus bleeder requested.

    Lets hope this was a learning experience for all our Biden guests here in the U.S.
    No invites al hombre a tu vida.
     
    "Soma" is a commonly abused prescription muscle relaxer.

    And the drug of choice in Brave New World….

    Plus an ancient herb tea brewed in India….

    As for the tranny hooker…

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    I’ve said it before and I will say it again. These mentally ill are going to rapidly become completely unhinged.

    Just a couple of days ago the Minnesota governor or some politician said Trump was committing genocide against trans. They are going to push them into extreme violence.

    For the last four years almost every mass shooter has been a tranny or some LG AlphaBetty

    They are mentally ill and unleashed. They are going to be the new storm troopers.

    So heads on a swivel people… when they think they are being genocided, they will stop at nothing.

    When the reality is all we’re doing is laughing at them, for being pathetic attention-seeking losers with more screws loose than a Studebaker. but for them that is genocide.

    Sirhr
     
    I sometimes don't understand how this group reacts. This is no different than the other police overreactions that are discussed in the Pit. It could have been handled differently.

    If this were a heterosexual female, everyone would be singing a different tune.

    You're all Christians, so remember that Judas ate too.
    That's a good point. I don't care about the tranny other than to provide a conflict of ethics, like in the thread about christians and capital punishment.

    I posted a video before of a black man being harassed unnecessarily (in my opinion) by cops. The response was crickets.
     
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    They've been telling the "trans genocide" tale for years but no one with a voice says anything. It's the one thing they should be called on, but everyone is too afraid to be that person. (what an insult to millions and millions of people/cultures who actually endured true acts of genocide)
     
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    A while ago, shortly after the end of the Carboniferous Period when the first land reptiles began to evolve,
    This makes me imagine body camera footage of the first creature to crawl out of the ocean trying to breath its first breaths while getting screamed at and then mag dumped
     
    If this were a heterosexual female, everyone would be singing a different tune.
    I really don't think so. Advancing on cops with knife-in-hand is never going to end well.
    Agree with others that this was suicide-by-cop. To-wit, there is no apparent evidence that there was ever any kidnapping, since no other persons were in the room.
     
    Cops shot a tranny who had called them to avoid being kidnapped.

    We all know of the cops doing bad things and killing people. Does this count because the person was trans? Or is it justified as a matter of hastening the meeting of the Tranny with God. Who is doing a favor for whom?

    That's a long article to say "I made shit up so I could do suicide by cop."
     
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    This is no different than the other police overreactions that are discussed in the Pit. It could have been handled differently.
    Like the cops in KY that went to the wrong house and murdered an innocent man for a weedeater? The cop that went into the wrong apartment because she thought it was hers and murdered the man living there?
    Please point out the similarities.
     
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    Like the cops in KY that went to the wrong house and murdered an innocent man for a weedeater? The cop that went into the wrong apartment because she thought it was hers and murdered the man living there?
    Please point out the similarities.
    I fully support a police officer using force, especially if force is being threatened against him, such as in this case.

    Be careful, it sounds like you are awfully close to saying the cop was doing the right thing and justified in his actions. I would hate for you to get that reputation ruined that you have crafted so carefully.
    :D