Sure. But I can tell you people don’t always practice with tripods. The only match I’ve been to where there was a tripod stage, people did not do well. So yeah you can say it’s too easy to bother with but then why have prone stages either.
Not sure where you're going with this as I didn't say anything about what anyone carries to work. I'm talking specifically about a 1 bag rule forcing someone to use more gear than they would if they were allowed to use two small bags. We've got guys that use our Recon Micro and run into this. Most guys are carrying 6-8 LB Gamechangers around and the brass is telling our guys that they can't use a 10 oz arca bag and a 1lb rear bag because "One bag rule, bud". So this forces them to stop trying to use more fundamentals and less gear and go in the opposite direction.
In a lot of situations two small bags will be more stable than one large one, so I’m not sure I agree. No bags, no arguments, right?
Yes, we, the entire family, shoot many matches across the northwest each year. Too many years shooting events with a bare muzzle or a break, I have zero interest to shoot a stage without the can. The noise can suck off the line, but it is not the same as shooting the stage. It is simply my opinion on what I will and won't do. There are old threads here where I argued all shooting events shoot allow breaks, b/c "they aren't that bad". Times change
This is a great idea, I think a lot of people miss what the point of what a “Different” stage is actually about. They then call it a stupid stage and move on without a clue.
I didn't post to argue with you. I assumed you understood what I meant by "essentially". But you are technically correct.
I didn't post to argue with you. I assumed you understood what I meant by "essentially". But you are technically correct.
You asked, I obliged. I'll ride on now.
So we can carry a 8lb bag but not attach a 10oz arca bag..... See how rules can defeat the purpose of the whole deal? If we’re trying to find the shooter with the best fundamentals this is bass ackwards.
Yep, as much as I possibly can. Several pro 2-day matches and a bunch of club level stuff every year. I shot part of one season with a brake and you’ll never see me use one ever again. And I can hold my own when I’m not making dumbass mistakes. It blows my mind that people are willing to risk permanent hearing damage in return for less recoil. Talk about a crutch!
First, and foremost, is that whatever transpires in terms of newer COF's being developed, safety has to be the primary focus.
First I think you have to ask what is the goal of imposing the gear restrictions?First, and foremost, is that whatever transpires in terms of newer COF's being developed, safety has to be the primary focus.
Although I do not completely disagree with what you're suggesting @JBoomhauer, my only concern would be for driving the MD's crazy. Developing COF's that are fun and challenging is already difficult enough when all gear is considered. I think if you still say "any gear goes, but good luck," you're kind of leaving a heavy burden on MD's to then develop COF's that really fuck with people and their gear. It is great to see, but I know folks can get burned out just trying to develop basic COF's.
At the end of the day, we still need the COF's to be fun...you don't want to make them so obtuse that it ends up being more frustrating than anything else. You have many ranges where barricades and what not have already been established. Personally, I think restricting hardware is the easiest thing to do.
Lastly, the RO's need to be considered as well. I've RO'ed numerous "national-level" and local comps, and I can say one thing...there is nothing more frustrating than when you're trying to manage a stage that has a rather confusing set of standards and target arrays. It pisses the RO's and shooters off and ends up not being a good time.
Obviously, I could be dead fucking wrong in what I'm saying, but I keep trying to view this issue as a competitor, RO and MD. And I sure as hell hope it is all as clear as mud
Well then it sounds like a 22lb gamer gun is the most efficient tool for that task for you.
The goal of having gear restrictions is simple: you can take already-existing barricades, COF's, and make them even more challenging. I don't believe reinventing the wheel is wholly necessary.
In addition to the restrictions you listed, I’d say implement an even more stringent weight limit, maybe 15 pounds. The idea behind weight seems to be to make it easier to spot your shots. Even a 20 pound 6mm helps in that regard even without a muzzle device. I know folks might only own one match gun but perhaps they’d like to shoot such a match with their hunting rifle. Maybe consider putting significant emphasis on 1st round hits with fewer points for 2nd round or later hits with negative points for a wounding shot.
