It was mentioned earlier in the thread. I doubt OP would make it through boot camp, but maybe they've softened it up enough now?
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WTF is REALLY going on with the job market?
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Ya but can you build a bridge that will support a tractor?
Only if customer supplies an old beam found in a pasture
yup. i don't know the numbers, but lots of cute girls are satisfied selling their self respect on the internet until they don't have anything somebody wants to look at, and then what?This article sums up much of what's been said here. Not optimistic about the future with Gen M/Z coming along.
Gen Z does not dream of labor
On TikTok and online, the youngest workers are rejecting work as we know it. How will that play out IRL?www.vox.com
I don’t have time to read every post, and somebody probably already said this, but I assume you are talking about your white privilege card that also came along with the “privilege” to have a large portion of your compensation for your hard work taken from you to keep 50% of the people walking around from having to suffer from all the poor choices they have made in life. That ”white privilege” card right?? Fact is, I go to work 40% of the time so 50% don’t have to and I’ve about had it.
I’m all about helping people with a hand up, but I’m vehemently against hand outs and that’s all I see going on these days.
Short story is people will go back to work when the get hungry and cold which apparently might be never.
Seriously. Who doesn’t look into compensation before choosing a major and/or career?
My career is the furthest thing from glamorous. I was aware of this before I ever stepped foot on a campus.
I picked it because I went to school right as the whole Enron thing happened and that field was experiencing explosive growth and solid pay. I had a new baby and diapers to buy.
Everything went exactly as expected.
One cold winter without handouts is all it takes to fix damn near every problem we have.
The OP thought this was going to be a holding hands and pitty me session. This reality check just slapped him harder than will smith did chris rock.
Politics doesn’t have to ruin this country. Just a bunch of lazy people who whine about the economy not handing them the golden ticket is all it takes.
Politics doesn’t have to ruin this country. Just a bunch of lazy people who whine about the economy not handing them the golden ticket is all it takes.
I got the sarcasm and I'm with you condemning those who cry victim. Just telling my tale of overcoming poor and woops, now I'm the patriarchy. Seems to be two camps. Patriarch. Poor. I rather not be poor.
I’m disappointed there are no titty pictures.
Become a handy man, or is it handy person these days?
Become a handy man, or is it handy person these days?
Why would anybody come to a forum called the fucking bear pit for a pity me session you fuck stick. Were here to fight about irrelevant bullshit get with the fucking program. You think anybody in here gives 2 shits what the other guy thinks?
I was tryin to get some humorous answers but the more I talk to any one of you given "fieldcraft sniper" faggots its just a blame game 3 posts in. What the fuck do any of you think youre accomplishing?
For a bunch of people who try so hard to make it sound like youve got it all figured out you sure do alot of assuming. Your hackneyed bullshit tropes of "get a fucking life you lazy fucking millenial stop bitching about your lack of interest in working for a living" is the most redundant shit in the world.
Ya know whats really wrong with you fucks? You old prunes are the reason my generation is littered with retards that wanna cut their fuckin dicks off like bruce jenner. You think you gotta nut up and play the tough act whenever something doesnt fit into your narrow simple minded worldviews. Your all social media addicts just like the generation you spend so much time shitting on, but instead of instagram or facebook you just come on here and scream into your little echo chamber.
you all shouldve just cut your own fuckin dicks off so you wouldnta popped any little shits that you seem to hate so much in the first place and maybe then you wouldnt be such a worthless bunch of bitchmoaners,
oh yeah, and if you wanna see me slam some tittys, you gotta pay for it.
jerkmates.net. youll know its me when you see a black dude reamin three babes you probably already jack off to.
^^^ first word of second sentence of your little tirade is "We'er"
Hope the rest of your career stuff is more accurate.
(I fixed a typo as pointed out below)
Hope the rest of your career stuff is more accurate.
(I fixed a typo as pointed out below)
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BULLSHIT…….. I got buddies who do welding in the gulf(make 6 figures if they want to) and NEVER went to school for welding. They learned it and got very good at it on their own, and with people that taught them. If you want to be good at something, you gotta put in the legwork
The second word of your first sentence should be "fourth".
I don’t want to see you slam tittys. Titty’s were mentioned numerous times in this thread, and I am disappointed that the tittys did not make an appearance.
I was serious about becoming a handyman. I’ve made more money at it than my real job over the years. I got paid $75 today to change lightbulbs.
As time goes on and the feminazis win the war against manhood, being able to fix simple shit has to be hired out.
I’ve only watched my calls and money grow over the last decade.
$300 to screw some 2x4’s together, attach hinges, and put on a post. Little shit like that. $600 to re-stain a deck. $75 to mount two brackets on a wall and lay a board of MDF across it to make a shelf. $300 to put bondo on a 1/4” hole in a bathtub. You’d be amazed at what I get calls to do.
yeah well, I dont really have time to do any of that on account of all the complaining about not having a job I have to do you see..
Welcome back to the conversation...I'm sure it will go better this time, since you've laced your replies with ignorance and profanity. Did momma heat up a pot-tart in the toaster so you'd have the energy to get back on the forum?
Why dont you just say it. Say what you really mean. Say that YOU think black people are lazy. Say it. You wont.
Might as well share this since it's quite relevant.
About 2000-2005 (don't recall exactly) I had just moved from Arkansas where I was making about $100k as a auto mechanic to Huntington Beach Ca.
I was looking for a decent job and having about 25'ish years as a master auto tech I thought no prob, I'm where all the cars are, should be simple.
I applied at Huntington Beach Toyota, right on Beach Bl. in the heart of beach area money (those of you that know the area know that you don't live there making only $50k a year, you'll be laughed out of town).
I easily *got* the job since I do have factory Toyota training and had worked at Long Beach Toyota a while back.....it was honestly a gimme, I was in.
When I asked about the pay, I was told $12 a flag hour (book time if your understand that).
Wait, I said, $12 a flag hour ?
Yes, that's what we pay all our top techs, I was told.
After regaining my composure I said "I'm supposed to have my $150k in tools flatbedded here, with 25 years experience and more wallhanging accolades than all your *mechanics* put together and you're going to offer me the privilege of a whopping $12 a fucking hour ?
Are you really that stupid ?, do you really think I'm that stupid?"
Needless to say I walked away from that wonderful opportunity.
As I walked out I made the effort to note if anyone in the shop appeared to be a US citizen.
Not a un-mexican in the house.
THAT is why no one works these days, we are not illegals and we do not wished to be treated as such.
BTW, about 2 weeks later I had a real job at (if I remember right) was about $37.5 an hour, you know, like it should have been.
About 2000-2005 (don't recall exactly) I had just moved from Arkansas where I was making about $100k as a auto mechanic to Huntington Beach Ca.
I was looking for a decent job and having about 25'ish years as a master auto tech I thought no prob, I'm where all the cars are, should be simple.
I applied at Huntington Beach Toyota, right on Beach Bl. in the heart of beach area money (those of you that know the area know that you don't live there making only $50k a year, you'll be laughed out of town).
I easily *got* the job since I do have factory Toyota training and had worked at Long Beach Toyota a while back.....it was honestly a gimme, I was in.
When I asked about the pay, I was told $12 a flag hour (book time if your understand that).
Wait, I said, $12 a flag hour ?
Yes, that's what we pay all our top techs, I was told.
After regaining my composure I said "I'm supposed to have my $150k in tools flatbedded here, with 25 years experience and more wallhanging accolades than all your *mechanics* put together and you're going to offer me the privilege of a whopping $12 a fucking hour ?
Are you really that stupid ?, do you really think I'm that stupid?"
Needless to say I walked away from that wonderful opportunity.
As I walked out I made the effort to note if anyone in the shop appeared to be a US citizen.
Not a un-mexican in the house.
THAT is why no one works these days, we are not illegals and we do not wished to be treated as such.
BTW, about 2 weeks later I had a real job at (if I remember right) was about $37.5 an hour, you know, like it should have been.
Im really hoping this is you but im pretty sure thats maynard james keenanYeah, I bet you did...
Lol. Maybe I should add erotic dancing to my repertoireYeah, I bet you did...
I'll say it.
I've known good black people that were decent to be around and no one saw them as other than just a good person.
I known way more that were just useless lazy people not good for much of anything other than trying to deal drugs (which they were not good at) trying to run scams (which they sucked at) and being a burden upon society.
Happy ?
You're black aren't you ?
at least you said it. I didnt say it wasnt true.
Im glad those slave boats brought my people over here bro because Ive seen what they got goin on across the pond and their shit is Fuuuuucked up.
The op's screen name is HKslave and said he is black. Is that racist?
Gen Z wants more more money to do jobs. I don’t blame them, really. A person said that to me not to long ago, and I have been thinking on it ever since.
I think the scamdemic showed people the true value of their time, and they are saying no to working for minimum wage, or even slightly more. With the cost of everything, you probably lose money on monthly basis working minimum wage.
I think the scamdemic showed people the true value of their time, and they are saying no to working for minimum wage, or even slightly more. With the cost of everything, you probably lose money on monthly basis working minimum wage.
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One of them was a proficient welder before he left high school. Shop teacher couldn’t help him with anything welding related.
yeah but even so not everybody turns their nose up and thinks they are too good for those jobs. I didnt for the longest time. Do I wanna make more money? yeah of course, everyone does, thats how you buy into this money pit of a hobby that is shooting long range, but all these dudes sayin get off your ass and get to work are the same ones that are talkin down on people who work low wage jobs, when the reality is that the economy as we know it, for better or worse, COULD NOT EXIST without low wage workers.
not anymore at least.
Ahh, there's the lie.
If you say it, it's not racist, but if we (white people) say it, it IS racist ?
Isn't that racist in and of it's self ?
Yes, it is.
But you'll never admit it.
actually I really dont give a shit.
Thats what all black people say when you ask them bc secretly we think it is funny.
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It’s not about being too good for the jobs, it’s because they literally don’t pay enough, and I’m not just talking flipping burgers.
Look at nursing. $25-$30 an hour as a staff nurse. Totally not worth it for what they do, which is why hospitals have such a hard time keeping nurses. Especially when the travel nurse working there makes $10,000 a month.
My honest opinion is for you to continue to work and grow in welding. It’ll be real good money some day, and when you start your own business you’ll be happier and better off. Looking back in time, all of my friends who went into the trades were making over $75,000 with no student debt by the time they were in their late 20’s early 30’s.
Most people who went to college will never make that amount of money, or if they do, it won’t be until they are much older.
Just my opinion.
I really would like to be a successful welder, but really I wasnt that good at it in truth, which is why I lost interest. I really did enjoy working in the gun industry, but it seems like the real money there is bidding on contracts to sell guns en-masse, and there seems to be big opportunities going on somewhere between Belarus and Russia right now...
Working at a gun store IS a good job for those who like what they are doing but massive inflation and supply chain problems had to ruin that for pretty much anyone left who was in it for the sport and not just the money. However contractors I know make ALOT more. Im really just trying to get a side gig for the time being because I have all the right connections to start bidding on contracts Im just waiting for my necessary legal paperwork to go through, which as with anything the government does, takes literally forever.
Odd. That same thought ran through my head.
It never crossed my mind what color you are. I'm married to a legal immigrant, from Korea. Keep your pity party going. Lazy doesn't have a color, calling you out for having an entitled mindset, throwing out the victim card, followed up with trying to call everyone a racist...look in the mirror.
I've been working since I was a child. Growing up on a farm where child slave labor is legal was normal. Fuck off. I never really knew what being a kid was, I started driving a tractor at 7, mowing and raking hay. A short day was 12 hours in the seat. 7am-7pm every day....minimum usually longer, can't count the days that went from 6 am to 3 am.
At 18 I moved out, found a job building houses for $5.75/hour 6 days a week. It was great, we only worked 10 hours a day, it was like being on vacation.
When I first got to Okinawa, we had shop PT twice a week...I wasn't feeling good, I still ran up 15 antenna poles that day doing maintenance, but when we got back to the shop we were supposed to go for a 3 mile run. I told the boss I didn't think I could make it, so he told me to mop the shop. I said, "ok, I'll get it done". 5 minutes later, I'm sitting at the break room table, and he called me out back. Said, "why aren't you mopping the shop? You got a problem with me telling you what to do, because I'm black?" I said, "no, I'm going to do it when everyone gets out of the shop, so they aren't tracking shit everywhere on the wet floor".
He told me he needed to talk to me after everyone left the shop, handed me a beer and apologized for jumping to conclusions. We got along a lot better after that.
This shit makes me angry. Literally race was no where in this conversation and no one has any inkling of an idea of what race of person they are talking to is, because it doesn’t fucking matter.
You want to throw race into it, I’m currently paying a black welder I’m friends with $1200 a day to bolt together fence. The color of the person doing any of this work is so irrelevant.
The race card has zero to do with any of this conversation.
With a name like yours, you'd have to be shitting me if you're not on the pole.
I did and there is literally zero reason race should have ever entered this conversation. You are the one that brought it in. Don’t start that it’s because I’m black BS when it was never a factor.
