XCR info/reviews?

[Maximusmax51]

Been looking for current info on the Robinson Arms XCR. Reviews would be nice that are more based on actually running the gun with a decent amount of rounds though it. Any info will help.

 

[kolob]

Re: XCR info/reviews?

There are many magazine article reviews going back to 2005. They have been written by Peter Kokalis, Charles Cutshaw, Dennis Prisby, Jack Lewis, and Others.

There are thousands of User in the US and elsewhere. Hopefully some will post here. It is a favorite of police and trainers who want to be armed with the very best.

Hopefully, others besides me will post here.

 

[Goot]

Re: XCR info/reviews?

http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2010/09/bryan-hyde/gun-review-robinson-arms-xcr-l-rifle/

http://archives.gunsandammo.com/content/robinson-arms-xcr

http://www.eliteshooters.com/articles/Robinson-Armament.html

http://www.thehighroad.org/archive/index.php/t-201669.html

http://echo1usa.com/reviews/?p=162

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/archive/index.php/t-105142.html

http://www.xdtalk.com/forums/non-xd-handguns/47518-robinson-arms-xcr-light-5-56-a.html

http://www.guns.com/what-we-want-to-shoot-robinson-arms-xcr-video.html

http://gunreviewpodcast.com/robinson-arms-xcr-l-kris-from-sw-michigan/

I personally love my XCR-L. I am ordering a new stock for it as well as the new XCR-M! Will do formal review later...

 

[steve123]

Re: XCR info/reviews?

A couple years ago I decided to try some of the newer gas piston 5.56 semiauto's to compare to my DI Armalite AR-15. They were the XCR-L,Sig patrol carbine and MSAR. Each one had strengths and weaknesses IMO. All said and done it was a decent rifle. It never jammed except for the one time I played with the gas adjust. It shot 1.5 MOA with match ammo which is acceptable for most purposes. I liked the engineering concepts and placement of controls most about the rifle. Honestly if I could be assured of sub MOA accuracy I'd consider buying one of the new M versions.

 

[Trickster]

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I had a XCR-L a while back, really nice little rifle. The rifle shot great too. No matter what ammo I put through it, it always went bang, except once. I had to eventually sell it to help fund a college education.

While a great rifle I did have a few issues. One problem I had was when the ejector came unbolted and locked up the rifle. I contacted Robinson Arms and they informed me that since mine was an early serial number the ejector wasn't installed with thread locker. They sent me a couple new bolts which I installed per their instructions and fixed the issue. The rifle had an estimated 2000 rounds through it before this malfunction. I put another 2000 after that and never noticed any loosening of the bolts.

The second problem was the trigger. The original trigger sucked and wouldn't reset after firing. After I replaced it with the new match trigger it performed flawlessly.

I understand that the issues I had were on earlier examples and have now been rectified on the current generation. I also have never had a problem with Robinson's customer service, which so many people complain about. Now that the new stock is out I would really like to try another one (I had the folding tube stock).

If you're looking for a new generation piston gun I would really recommend the XCR-L. It has all the ergonomics and accuracy potential of an AR-15 coupled with a long stroke gas piston set up of an AK 47. I mean whats not to like about that?

 

[2bfarming]

Re: XCR info/reviews?

I have an upgraded early model. Not sure how many thousands down the pipe. I would'nt trade it for ANYTHING.

The only thing I really need is an ambi mag release as I switch hit often.

My gun gets BEAT on. It is a tool and has never failed me.

 

[sf88]

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I would never buy one due to some past conduct by the owner, however most people I meet that have them defend them almost rabidly so there must be something decent to them.

 

[jp_colt]

Re: XCR info/reviews?

I purchased the 223, 7.62 x 39 and the 6.8 all performed above avg. That Said would never deal with that company again. I broke the bolt for barrel change called for replacement bolt was told send back we will fix in a week. 7 months later got upper back. Would call once a month basic on their recommendations. Never get the same person was told prior person does not know etc as soon as I got rifle back sold all. Go to Robinson xcr forum and read history. Would not recommend based on customer / management. Service

 

[FMJ]

Re: XCR info/reviews?

Only two other guns compete with it, the FN SCAR and the Bushmaster ACR and after looking closely at all three the XCR is much superior. It has all the advantages the AK-47 has over our M-16 but has the accuracy of an AR and controls that are better than an AR. I love my XCR-L (556) and will be buying the XCR-M (308) as soon as they are available.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Db8mmURVswc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woKTbEw8AMs

 

[Maximusmax51]

Re: XCR info/reviews?

Thanks for the info Gents, looks like this is going to be my next rifle! This was info I wanted to hear... Wahooo

 

[Maximusmax51]

Re: XCR info/reviews?

Are there any others out there that are in love/or not with the XCR?

 

[Shooter McGavin]

Re: XCR info/reviews?

I have a XCR 16.5" bbl. The rifle has always performed. Right now I am thinking about getting a XCR micro. Maybe next year sometime after I have saved enough money.

 

[sf88]

Re: XCR info/reviews?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: FMJ</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Only two other guns compete with it, the FN SCAR and the Bushmaster ACR and after looking closely at all three the XCR is much superior. It has all the advantages the AK-47 has over our M-16 but has the accuracy of an AR and controls that are better than an AR. I love my XCR-L (556) and will be buying the XCR-M (308) as soon as they are available.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Db8mmURVswc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woKTbEw8AMs </div></div>

Not trying to stir things up here, but in what factors make you determine that the XCR is far superior to one of the most exhaustively tested weapons to ever be developed like the SCAR?

ETA: Not trying to bash the XCR here, may be a fine gun, but assertions as bold as the one made above...

 

[FMJ]

Re: XCR info/reviews?

This is a description of the next generation weapons platform. Go to your local gun store and compare all three side by side. This is what I believe you will find.

Of the three weapons platforms they are all modular meaning they are multi caliber and with the correct parts you can configure into a short barreled rifle, a standard multipurpose rifle, or a precision rifle or DMR configuration. They are all side chargers, they all use a piston that dumps the operating gas under the forearm, unlike the M-16 and because they are piston operated they all have an adjustable folding stock. They all have a monolithic rail meaning the upper receiver is one piece with no joint between the upper receive and the forearm. The SCAR and the ACR have a plastic or polymer lower receiver while the XCR has a metal lower receiver.

As of yet there are no conversion parts for the SCAR and ACR. The XCR has four caliber conversions you can purchase now. The .556, the 5.45x39, the 7.62x39 and the 6.8 SPC cartridge.

The rifles are all ambidextrous with fire controls on both sides. The selector on the SCAR is plastic, has a solid feel and has a short throw of approximately 60 degrees. However, the location of the selector does not fit my hand and I have to adjust my firing hand grip in order to manipulate it. This is a little annoying.
The selector on the ACR is also plastic and has the same 90 degree throw as the M-16 so it takes a little extra push to manipulate it. I don't know exactly how to describe how this feels except to say that it's much like a cheep $200 air soft rifle being plastic and all.
The selector on the XCR is metal and has a short throw of approximately 60 degrees. It's in the correct location and it simply feels great. Maybe the best way to describe it is to mention the proper method of using it. To knock the safety off you always use your thumb, right or left handed. Notice when you do that your thumb is laying at a natural angle to the selector, IE approximately 60 degrees. When you apply the safety you always use your trigger finger, that way your finger is outside the trigger guard where is should be. Simply straighten your finger while lifting up and the safety snaps on. If you're manipulating the selector any other way you're simply doing it wrong.

One of the best features of the XCR is the bolt catch or bolt release. It does both so I guess you can call it whatever you want. Robinson came up with this design over ten years ago on the M96 Expeditionary rifle and every AR style rifle should have this feature. On the M-16 in order to release the bolt you remove your support hand from the forearm, slap the paddle on the left side of the receiver and then grab the forearm to support the rifle. With the XCR you simply depress the bolt release located in front of the trigger guard with your trigger finger. Your firing hand is already on the pistol grip so it's really simple. The SCAR uses the M-16 style paddle that everyone is familiar with. The ACR has copied the XCR design. I understand there is a lawsuit over this and it will years and years before this is ever settled. However, it's obvious that Robinson came up with this design long before the Masada was even a twinkle in Magpuls eye. The Magpul Bad Lever is the AR-15 solution to a trigger finger bolt release as long as you don't mind having strange parts bolted to the outside of your receiver.

The SCAR has a two position gas valve. standard and suppressed. When you're using a suppressor you switch to the suppressed position and it dumps less gas into the operating system.
The ACR has a two position gas valve, standard and suppressed the same as the SCAR.
The XCR has a five position gas valve. The S position is for a suppressor and uses the least amount of gas, next would be 1 through 4 with 4 using the most amount of gas to operate the system. This allows you to shoot low powered ammunition like Wolf on setting 4 or quality ammunition on a lower gas setting. I don't shoot Wolf ammo but this is what I have been told.

The SCAR uses a reciprocating charging handle that can be switched to the opposite side. You need to be careful where you place your support had or you can get smacked by the charging handle.
The ACR uses a rubber covered handle that can be switched to the right side. The charging handle angles to the rear as you grasp it to pull it back, so it feels like you're in the process of loosing your hold on it when you charge it. It also can be switched to right side, Both the SCAR and ACR charging handles are about four inches forward of the work space and they are located much to close to the top rail. If you have a scope or any type of optics mounted on the rifle it's a knuckle buster when you try to charge it.
The XCR uses a charging handle that looks a lot like the FAL and is located about two inches below the top rail inside the workspace so you don't have to reach forward to grasp it. The only thing I can find wrong with it is you can't move it to the right side for a left handed shooter. So a left handed shooter has to reach under the rifle with his support hand to charge it. However, that is a small price to pay for the solid feel of the handle. Pushing in on the spring loaded handle engages the bolt carrier so it's just like a forward assist if you think you need one.

The SCAR has an adjustable polymer folding stock that that can only be described as very fragile, it even sounds fragile just taping on it with your fingers. It feels good but I'm always afraid to close the stock without first depressing the release button.
The ACR has an adjustable polymer folding stock that looks and feels very solid. They did a good job designing this stock.
The XCR has an adjustable metal folding stock and allows the use of any AR type stock or you can order a wire stock that will fold but you can't easily change it's length. Robinson now has a new metal stock but it's so new we don't know too much about it.

At my local gun shop the FN SCAR costs approximately $2,300 to $2,400. The Enhanced ACR costs approximately $2,500 to $2,600. The XCR with an AR stock adapter, MOE stock, and Troy Micro Battle Sights cost approximately $1,800. I believe it's a superior rifle for the reasons mentioned above and on top of that it cost less. If you want the best bang for your buck I don't see how you could come to any other conclusion.

If you love the AR-15 there is nothing wrong with that. It has been with us for a long time and will be for a long time to come. I own more than one but I haven't shot them since I purchased the XCR. If your interested in the next generation weapons platform then you should look at the SCAR, ACR and XCR. Robinson Arms is a small company but I believe he manufactures a superior rifle. Two very respected firearms instructors have given thumbs up for the XCR. Clint Smith and John Farnham among others. I have taken classes from both of these instructor and in my opinion they are among the very best.

I am not an employee of Robinson Arms but I believe I know a few things about rifles. I also used to be a patrol rifle instructor but I don't think that really means anything. Your opinion may vary based upon your frame size, your hand size, the cheek bones in your face, etc etc. I respect your opinion and you should buy the rifle that you think is best. Good luck!

 

[sf88]

Re: XCR info/reviews?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: FMJ</div><div class="ubbcode-body">This is a description of the next generation weapons platform. Go to your local gun store and compare all three side by side. This is what I believe you will find.

Of the three weapons platforms they are all modular meaning they are multi caliber and with the correct parts you can configure into a short barreled rifle, a standard multipurpose rifle, or a precision rifle or DMR configuration. They are all side chargers, they all use a piston that dumps the operating gas under the forearm, unlike the M-16 and because they are piston operated they all have an adjustable folding stock. They all have a monolithic rail meaning the upper receiver is one piece with no joint between the upper receive and the forearm. The SCAR and the ACR have a plastic or polymer lower receiver while the XCR has a metal lower receiver.

<span style="color: #FF0000"> Scar and ACR stock have significantly more adjustments and a much more solid lockup than the XCR I handled when they were released, maybe this has changed? Polymer lower is an advantage for my use, however YMMV.</span>

As of yet there are no conversion parts for the SCAR and ACR. The XCR has four caliber conversions you can purchase now. The .556, the 5.45x39, the 7.62x39 and the 6.8 SPC cartridge.

<span style="color: #FF0000">True, however SCAR conversions are now available through a 3rd party manufacturer for 300 BLK with more to come. Remember that it also took robarms many missed deadlines to actually release anything, however they are available now. Whether or not any of this will have an impact on your purchase depends on your use.</span>


The rifles are all ambidextrous with fire controls on both sides. The selector on the SCAR is plastic, has a solid feel and has a short throw of approximately 60 degrees. However, the location of the selector does not fit my hand and I have to adjust my firing hand grip in order to manipulate it. This is a little annoying.
The selector on the ACR is also plastic and has the same 90 degree throw as the M-16 so it takes a little extra push to manipulate it. I don't know exactly how to describe how this feels except to say that it's much like a cheep $200 air soft rifle being plastic and all.
The selector on the XCR is metal and has a short throw of approximately 60 degrees. It's in the correct location and it simply feels great. Maybe the best way to describe it is to mention the proper method of using it. To knock the safety off you always use your thumb, right or left handed. Notice when you do that your thumb is laying at a natural angle to the selector, IE approximately 60 degrees. When you apply the safety you always use your trigger finger, that way your finger is outside the trigger guard where is should be. Simply straighten your finger while lifting up and the safety snaps on. If you're manipulating the selector any other way you're simply doing it wrong.

<span style="color: #FF0000">Everything stated in this section is subjective and purely personal preference, nothing to base superiority on here for any of the platforms.</span>

One of the best features of the XCR is the bolt catch or bolt release. It does both so I guess you can call it whatever you want. Robinson came up with this design over ten years ago on the M96 Expeditionary rifle and every AR style rifle should have this feature. On the M-16 in order to release the bolt you remove your support hand from the forearm, slap the paddle on the left side of the receiver and then grab the forearm to support the rifle. With the XCR you simply depress the bolt release located in front of the trigger guard with your trigger finger. Your firing hand is already on the pistol grip so it's really simple. The SCAR uses the M-16 style paddle that everyone is familiar with. The ACR has copied the XCR design. I understand there is a lawsuit over this and it will years and years before this is ever settled. However, it's obvious that Robinson came up with this design long before the Masada was even a twinkle in Magpuls eye. The Magpul Bad Lever is the AR-15 solution to a trigger finger bolt release as long as you don't mind having strange parts bolted to the outside of your receiver.

<span style="color: #FF0000">Never tried the ACR or XCR bolt release so I can't comment on this, I know however that I like that the SCAR shares that part of the manual of arms with my AR's.</span>

The SCAR has a two position gas valve. standard and fouled. When the rifle is dirty or malfunctions you switch to the fouled position and it dumps more gas into the operating system.
The ACR has a two position gas valve, standard and suppressed. When you're using a suppressor you switch to the suppressed position and it dumps less gas into the operating system.
The XCR has a five position gas valve. The S position is for a suppressor and uses the least amount of gas, next would be 1 through 4 with 4 using the most amount of gas to operate the system. This allows you to shoot low powered ammunition like Wolf on setting 4 or quality ammunition on a lower gas setting. I don't shoot Wolf ammo but this is what I have been told.

<span style="color: #FF0000">Your information here is wrong, the scar has an unsuppressed setting and a suppressed setting. It doesn't need an adverse setting, it will run anything. Five positions does not bring a tangible advantage to the table, in fact I would postulate that if anything it is just more likely to induce operator error by setting the gas to one of the incorrect settings, better to just have the gun run reliably with either or.</span>

The SCAR uses a reciprocating charging handle that can be switched to the opposite side. You need to be careful where you place your support had or you can get smacked by the charging handle.
The ACR uses a rubber covered handle that can be switched to the right side. The charging handle angles to the rear as you grasp it to pull it back, so it feels like you're in the process of loosing your hold on it when you charge it. It also can be switched to right side, Both the SCAR and ACR charging handles are about four inches forward of the work space and they are located much to close to the top rail. If you have a scope or any type of optics mounted on the rifle it's a knuckle buster when you try to charge it.
The XCR uses a charging handle that looks a lot like the FAL and is located about two inches below the top rail inside the workspace so you don't have to reach forward to grasp it. The only thing I can find wrong with it is you can't move it to the right side for a left handed shooter. So a left handed shooter has to reach under the rifle with his support hand to charge it. However, that is a small price to pay for the solid feel of the handle. Pushing in on the spring loaded handle engages the bolt carrier so it's just like a forward assist if you think you need one.

<span style="color: #FF0000">This is a big gripe a lot of people do have with the scar, while I personally like a reciprocating charging handle I do wish that the positioning was a little farther forward. From what I have seen both the XCR and ACR charging handles are well thought out designs.</span>


The SCAR has an adjustable polymer folding stock that that can only be described as very fragile, it even sounds fragile just taping on it with your fingers. It feels good but I'm always afraid to close the stock without first depressing the release button.
The ACR has an adjustable polymer folding stock that looks and feels very solid. They did a good job designing this stock.
The XCR has an adjustable metal folding stock and allows the use of any AR type stock or you can order a wire stock that will fold but you can't easily change it's length. Robinson now has a new metal stock but it's so new we don't know too much about it.

<span style="color: #FF0000">Not sure how the scar stock can only be described as fragile, mine has held up well and I have yet to meet anyone with proof of a confirmed breakage. It is also far more adjustable and has a much sturdier lockup than any XCR stock I have seen.</span>


At my local gun shop the FN SCAR costs approximately $2,300 to $2,400. The Enhanced ACR costs approximately $2,500 to $2,600. The XCR with an AR stock adapter, MOE stock, and Troy Micro Battle Sights cost approximately $1,800. I believe it's a superior rifle for the reasons mentioned above and on top of that it cost less. If you want the best bang for your buck I don't see how you could come to any other conclusion.

<span style="color: #FF0000">For 2.1K you're getting one of the most extensively tested rifles ever to be produced, for 1.8K you are getting a weapon that at least initially suffered from subpar manufacturing, poor customer service and a lack of quality control. Well thought out design suffering from bungled execution. Perhaps things have improved now but color me skeptical.</span>


If you love the AR-15 there is nothing wrong with that. It has been with us for a long time and will be for a long time to come. I own more than one but I haven't shot them since I purchased the XCR. If your interested in the next generation weapons platform then you should look at the SCAR, ACR and XCR. Robinson Arms is a small company but I believe he manufactures a superior rifle. Two very respected firearms instructors have given thumbs up for the XCR. Clint Smith and John Farnham among others. I have taken classes from both of these instructor and in my opinion they are among the very best.

I am not an employee of Robinson Arms but I believe I know a few things about rifles. I also used to be a patrol rifle instructor but I don't think that really means anything. Your opinion may vary based upon your frame size, your hand size, the cheek bones in your face, etc etc. I respect your opinion and you should buy the rifle that you think is best. Good luck! </div></div>

I don't think it's possible to name one "next gen carbine" as the best rifle out there. Even though I love the scar, AR platform is not going anywhere as in general none of these guns offer anything significant over the M4/M16 FOW.

 

[Maximusmax51]

Re: XCR info/reviews?

So the positives are fairly consistent with the bolt release, piston design, etc..,

But what about the negatives? Is the release for disassembly that big of an issue like I've read? It has been said there have been reports of accidental release causing the upper receiver to release from the lower. Has the 7.62X39 reliability changed at all?

 

[smschulz]

Re: XCR info/reviews?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Maximusmax51</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Are there any others out there that are in love/or not with the XCR? </div></div>

I really like the rifle.
I have an early one prior to gas,trigger,FP enhancements but I have not had any problem.
I really like shooting it and it is very accurate.

I am concerned a bit about the Company especially what all has been written about the owner (kolob ~ from the above post is the owner of the company, FYI) and the horror stories of customer service, lack of communication and inability to deliver anything as promised.
Too bad really as the XCR could be really great, IMO.

Yet, I have no intention of selling my rifle, enjoy shooting it and keep my fingers crossed nothing major goes wrong.

 

[FMJ]

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NF 1986 you are correct, the gas system on the SCAR is standard and suppressed, I was thinking about the Sig 556 when I posted that and I have now corrected it.

On the range most malfunctions with the M-16 are operator induced. Or they just don't know how to run the rifle and keep it maintained. If you like the M-16 then you should stay with it.

 

[Goot]

Re: XCR info/reviews?

I have one of the first 500 XCR-L rifles produced. Have not had any problems with it. Sent it back to get some of the recent upgrades done and enjoyed excellent pricing, service, and communication. I am buying pre-ordering the new stock for it.

 

[Shooter McGavin]

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P.S.- an one looking for a deal on CA 10 rnd mags PM me

 

[mcmillanman5]

Re: XCR info/reviews?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Maximusmax51</div><div class="ubbcode-body">So the positives are fairly consistent with the bolt release, piston design, etc..,

But what about the negatives? Is the release for disassembly that big of an issue like I've read? It has been said there have been reports of accidental release causing the upper receiver to release from the lower. Has the 7.62X39 reliability changed at all? </div></div>

I remember seeing this video a while back that shows the upper and lower seperating. The guy says it was his fault but you get the idea:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yz7sTU8J6O4

 

[Maximusmax51]

Re: XCR info/reviews?

Not that it really makes a huge difference, but what is the recoil like/comparable to? Ive heard in between AR/AK...

 

[Maximusmax51]

Re: XCR info/reviews?

Has the reliability of the 7.62X39 conversion increased at all? I know that was a major complaint, that should have been addressed.

 

[steve123]

Re: XCR info/reviews?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Maximusmax51</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Not that it really makes a huge difference, but what is the recoil like/comparable to? Ive heard in between AR/AK... </div></div>

They have more of a hop when shot off a bipod compared to AR,MSAR,Sig556PC probably close to the same as a AK in 223.

 

[kolob]

Re: XCR info/reviews?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mcmillanman5</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Maximusmax51</div><div class="ubbcode-body">So the positives are fairly consistent with the bolt release, piston design, etc..,

But what about the negatives? Is the release for disassembly that big of an issue like I've read? It has been said there have been reports of accidental release causing the upper receiver to release from the lower. Has the 7.62X39 reliability changed at all? </div></div>

The rifle in this video was put together by the customer in a non-recommended configuration. Furthermore, the gas tube was exposed because it wasn't configured correctly letting mud into the system. The guy simply didn't know what he was doing.

I remember seeing this video a while back that shows the upper and lower seperating. The guy says it was his fault but you get the idea:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yz7sTU8J6O4 </div></div>

 

[kolob]

Re: XCR info/reviews?

Experts that really understand rifles understand why the XCR is probably the best assault rifle ever designed.

It's one of the most reliable,
Extremely durable parts,
Best ergonomics period (especially with the new stock,
Fires multiple caliber reliably,
Full 1913 rail with all rails parallel to the bore,
Low recoil,
Few number of parts,
Easiest Maintenance.

It can also fire with a barrel full of water XCR Over the Beach

The guns is simply incredible. We guaranty satisfaction.

Check out at Robarm Website

 

[kolob]

Re: XCR info/reviews?

Here's some other video clips that show XCR Superiority.

During Drill, the XCR is the fastest to clear. I've seen novices clear and XCR faster than an expert clearing an AR-15. Malfunction Clearing

Also, an XCR has one of the fastest magazine changes. Check this out. Quick Mag Change

 

[jp_colt]

Re: XCR info/reviews?

Xcrforum.com info/issue from real xcr users

 

[Scarlett_Red]

Re: XCR info/reviews?

I love my XCR. I agree with all the positive comments completely. I have a 16" hbar that shoots 55g hornady .6-.7MOA which is quite nice for a piston gun. Feels great to shoot, no malfunctions. It is a little front heavy with the hbar, maybe that will change when I get the bushmaster ACR stock/adaptor put on it. Something to consider is that RA is a pretty small company with a new style rifle, so bugs do turn up initially. The AR15 has had decades to work the bugs out.I think the XCR has done a pretty phenomenal job considering the short time it has been out. As far as owners go, like him or not, if the product delivers, I'll buy it. I may hate some actors in a movie, but if its a good movie I will still see it. If you like it try it. I still have AR's, but something different is what makes life fun.

 

[sf88]

Re: XCR info/reviews?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Scarlett_Red</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I love my XCR. I agree with all the positive comments completely. I have a 16" hbar that shoots 55g hornady .6-.7MOA which is quite nice for a piston gun. Feels great to shoot, no malfunctions. It is a little front heavy with the hbar, maybe that will change when I get the bushmaster ACR stock/adaptor put on it. Something to consider is that RA is a pretty small company with a new style rifle, so bugs do turn up initially. The AR15 has had decades to work the bugs out.I think the XCR has done a pretty phenomenal job considering the short time it has been out. As far as owners go, like him or not, if the product delivers, I'll buy it. I may hate some actors in a movie, but if its a good movie I will still see it. If you like it try it. I still have AR's, but something different is what makes life fun. </div></div>

I'd be interested in seeing some of those groups, if they managed to get a CL barrel shooting that well that would boost them up a huge notch in my book.

 

[Maximusmax51]

Re: XCR info/reviews?

So for you guys that have them, Is the XCR worth the price of a higher end AR15? If you'd had a choice between the two, which one would you pick up?

 

[Goot]

Re: XCR info/reviews?

I bought my used for a very good price and I consider it much better than what I would get with the same money in an AR15.

 

[Scarlett_Red]

Re: XCR info/reviews?

I should have taken pics of my shots last time. I have heard from my dealers and other users that they have a very high quality chrome lining. Supposedly chrome lining can be very accurate depending on the manufacurer. I was very surprised myself of the rifles accuracy as I kept hearing 1-2MOA was standard, but then most of the reports were done with red dot sights. I have an 8 power nikon on mine because I use mine for Coyote hunting. It does take some concentration and control as the stock is a little lighter than most and not as much sandbag interface as say a magpul prs stock. I think it is wickedly cool though.

 

[Shooter McGavin]

Re: XCR info/reviews?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Maximusmax51</div><div class="ubbcode-body">So for you guys that have them, Is the XCR worth the price of a higher end AR15? If you'd had a choice between the two, which one would you pick up? </div></div>


If you shop around the XCR is priced right there with a AR 15 with a piston and rails. An example would be POF 415 is priced at $2199 compared to the XCR $1700.

 

[JeffLebowski]

Re: XCR info/reviews?

http://xcrforum.com/index.php/topic,9168.0.html

I don't know of any major trainers using this rifle. Not worth the money over a good AR.

 

[FMJ]

Re: XCR info/reviews?

REALLY?

Better to keep your mouth closed and be thought a fool than to open it and remove all doubt!

 

[Maximusmax51]

Re: XCR info/reviews?

Not really too up on the soap opra drama, so I can honestly say I could care less about the issues with the owner. More than likely this all would be a completely different story without forums and bashers with a readily available process to talk trash.

From what I've read from people who are using the rifle, majority love it. Not to say I give up on the AR15 but the XCR has, as of now, almost found its way to me.

But WOW oh WOW with the drama! Its like a call of duty match, hair salon, and high school cheer squad all mixed up together. I just like to shoot...

 

[JeffLebowski]

Re: XCR info/reviews?

With the shameless self promotion, it's time for Robinson Armament to buy some advertising here at the Hide instead of sponging.

 

[FMJ]

Re: XCR info/reviews?

Clint Smith Thunder Ranch
"Personally I like my standard XCR rifle very much, thanks for building it"

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0BQY/is_8_56/ai_n56222193/


John Farnam Defense Training International

RA/XCR, 7.62X39
"I now have copy of Robinson Arms' XCR, in 7.62X39".

http://www.defense-training.com/quips/2008/19Aug08.html


http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=john...amp;FORM=IDFRIR


Ben Kurata Police Firearms Instructor

http://gunfighterforum.com/about579.html

 

[sf88]

Re: XCR info/reviews?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Maximusmax51</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Not really too up on the soap opra drama, so I can honestly say I could care less about the issues with the owner. More than likely this all would be a completely different story without forums and bashers with a readily available process to talk trash.

From what I've read from people who are using the rifle, majority love it. Not to say I give up on the AR15 but the XCR has, as of now, almost found its way to me.

But WOW oh WOW with the drama! Its like a call of duty match, hair salon, and high school cheer squad all mixed up together. I just like to shoot... </div></div>

You certainly seem to have a flair for the dramatic yourself, I suggest you familiarize yourself with the situation before you start the bashing that you stated you were so averse to.

 

[JeffLebowski]

Re: XCR info/reviews?

Clint Smith is selling and running Noveskes now.

 

[johnnyfive05]

Re: XCR info/reviews?

Good rifle never had a problem!!!! WOuld deff recomend

 

[JeffLebowski]

Re: XCR info/reviews?

How is your entry into the Army's new carbine trials coming, Alex?

 

[2bfarming]

Re: XCR info/reviews?

1100 for an older xcr right here on the hide.

 

[JeffLebowski]

Re: XCR info/reviews?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: brut4c</div><div class="ubbcode-body">1100 for an older xcr right here on the hide. </div></div>

I'd rather have a brand new, top of the line AR.

 

[2bfarming]

Re: XCR info/reviews?

Yeah but ......this thread isn't about you.