Rifle Scopes XTR 3 - Race Dial

[Lowlight]

So Burris has the XTRIII coming out soon, and for me personally having a bunch of the XTR2s, I think they have been a good scope for the money.

With that, I was looking at the new XTR III and saw the Race Dial,

I think this is a good idea, especially for comp people and those who handload among other uses.

It's an optional thing,

You don't have to use it, but I like the idea of it

 

[spife7980]

Can you clarify what you mean by "for those who handload?"

 

[Bender]

I thought the “width of scotch tape” on the turret was brilliant. Cool stuff fer sure.

 

[Lowlight]

Can you clarify what you mean by "for those who handload?"

Basically, it was 1/2 a thought, I got interrupted and never finished it

Nothing really to do with handloading just custom BDC or drop chart

 

[long range sponge]

So is it like a dope card for the turret? Figure range to each target on a stage. Indicate adjustments on the scope "ring". Erase and GTG for next stage?

 

[Bender]

So is it like a dope card for the turret? Figure range to each target on a stage. Indicate adjustments on the scope "ring". Erase and GTG for next stage?

Put your own yardages on the dial. Tailored to your exterior ballistics. Instead of mils. It can say 200-300-400-500 and so on to whatever you wish. Count clicks when you need to adjust for a follow up shot.

 

[Birddog6424]

I thought the “width of scotch tape” on the turret was brilliant. Cool stuff fer sure.

It's very well thought out. I like the little vertical groove in it so you can run the tip of your pocket knife down the groove and easily remove the Scotch tape. No fishing around with your fingernail to find the end.

I'm not sure how it will be offered. I was told early on it would be optional. My best guess is that it will be sold separately, though it's possible there may be scopes where it is included in the price.

 

[patriot07]

Dumb question - is it an add-on to the existing turret? Or a replacement that has no hash marks?

 

[bjay]

What reticle will be avail

 

[Long Range 338]

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What reticle will be avail

website shows SCR and SCR2

 

[simpy16]

Do we have an update on when these will be available? I am curious to know when they will introduce the new reticle design as well. I am looking very hard at the 3.3x18 on a AR10 build. Hopefully it will be more promising than the Sig Tango 6 3-18 I had on there.

 

[Deleted member 113831]

I hope everyone goes out and buys the hell out of these XTR3's. If the prices of the XTR2 3-15x's keep going down, I might snag another 1 or 2 this year.

 

[Lionsbreath]

I dig the innovation, but how the hell could this help me in race conditions?? Looks like a lot of work that’s not necessary.. Someone should fill me in, on ways this could help you in a match environment

 

[Inifinty]

I hope everyone goes out and buys the hell out of these XTR3's. If the prices of the XTR2 3-15x's keep going down, I might snag another 1 or 2 this year.

I need a couple of good scopes without breaking the bank on nightforce. Are the XTR2 turrets dependable overall? Dependability and accuracy are primary requirments.

 

[Inifinty]

I dig the innovation, but how the hell could this help me in race conditions?? Looks like a lot of work that’s not necessary.. Someone should fill me in, on ways this could help you in a match environment

If you know the target come ups before you’re turn to shoot you can mark them on the turret and speed dial to then without counting in the middle of a stage. Remove the tape when done and repeat as needed.

 

[Deleted member 113831]

I need a couple of good scopes without breaking the bank on nightforce. Are the XTR2 turrets dependable overall? Dependability and accuracy are primary requirments.

I have tested both of mine to be about 1% variation over the entire adjustment range. If you research these you will find that the largest complaint BY FAR is the glass quality. I have two thoughts on that:

1. Lot's of people are glass snobs...period.
2. Most all of the complaints came from those who chose the higher magnification glass. The 3-15x scopes pretty much make this a non-issue.

In all the tests I have been able to find online, even those that looked down thier nose at the glass, have admitted that they track spectacularly. The 3-15x's also have the most adjustment range, 110 moa vs 90 moa.

 

[Lowlight]

I have enjoyed using the XTR2s I have,

I think they are a solid scope for the money and these look to improve on that

 

[koshkin]

XTR2 is a very solid scope, but I have to admit the 3-15x50 did not agree with me in terms of optics too well. I really like the 2-10x42 and 4-20x50 (and the 1-8x24, but that's a different OEM).

All of the XTR2 scopes I have seen were very robust in terms of mechanics.

Ilya

 

[Birddog6424]

Dumb question - is it an add-on to the existing turret? Or a replacement that has no hash marks?

This will be a replaceable turret. Loosen the screws, remove the existing turret, drop the new one on. Tighten the screws.

The windage turret is also replaceable with either the capped or uncapped turret version.

 

[patriot07]

This will be a replaceable turret. Loosen the screws, remove the existing turret, drop the new one on. Tighten the screws.

The windage turret is also replaceable with either the capped or uncapped turret version.

Gotcha.

So you write stuff on the white strip and you can erase it? I can see that being incredibly useful for matches.

 

[whatsupdoc]

I knew I had one somewhere.
Maybe early 80's Bushnell 4x12 optic.

 

[simpy16]

Gotcha.

So you write stuff on the white strip and you can erase it? I can see that being incredibly useful for matches.

What you are suppose to do is use scotch tape and wrap it around the turret. Then you write your yardage values and possibly wind value on the tape, once you are done with it just peel the tape off and you can start over.

I have seen this done and my guess I know where they got this idea from Ckye Thomas (inventor of Ckye-pod) and Dorgan Trostel (Burris shooter) use this when they shoot matches, they usually just figure out their DA the night before the match and write it out. MOST of the time your DA will not change enough throughout the day to need to rewrite your card, and for the 1 or two stages you shoot over 1000 you can just try to pull updated data off your kestrel or ballistics App. I have made dope cards from 1000 to 10000DA on a couple of my rifles and you usually don't see much of a change until after 900-1000 yards, anything inside that and you are more than likely going to miss off wind.

 

[GeoffatBurris]

Do we have an update on when these will be available? I am curious to know when they will introduce the new reticle design as well. I am looking very hard at the 3.3x18 on a AR10 build. Hopefully it will be more promising than the Sig Tango 6 3-18 I had on there.

First ones, with "old" SCR reticle and non-illuminated, in May/ June.

Other models to follow. I do not have good info on SCR2 release yet. But generally speaking, adding a different reticle happens fairly quickly.

 

[Lionsbreath]

What you are suppose to do is use scotch tape and wrap it around the turret. Then you write your yardage values and possibly wind value on the tape, once you are done with it just peel the tape off and you can start over.

I have seen this done and my guess I know where they got this idea from Ckye Thomas (inventor of Ckye-pod) and Dorgan Trostel (Burris shooter) use this when they shoot matches, they usually just figure out their DA the night before the match and write it out. MOST of the time your DA will not change enough throughout the day to need to rewrite your card, and for the 1 or two stages you shoot over 1000 you can just try to pull updated data off your kestrel or ballistics App. I have made dope cards from 1000 to 10000DA on a couple of my rifles and you usually don't see much of a change until after 900-1000 yards, anything inside that and you are more than likely going to miss off wind.

I sound like an idiot, but help me out here.. So the race dial is blank, scotch tape is clear. How do you know where your at from your zero stop? Counting clicks again?? What if the ink smears off after your first target?? Do you write the dope after tape is on the turret, that seems like it would suck.. but you couldn’t hardly do it beforehand, tape sticking to everything. What if you forgot to bring Scotchtape and a fine-tip Sharpie? Definitely not trying to be a buzzkill but someone should dumb it down for me please??‍ Kickass scope

 

[Lionsbreath]

O yeah, what if started raining and the tape wouldn’t stick and you had forgot the other turret at the house?

 

[beetroot]

O yeah, what if started raining and the tape wouldn’t stick and you had forgot the other turret at the house?

Race dial still has standard Mil markings, they are just quite small.

 

[Lionsbreath]

Race dial still has standard Mil markings, they are just quite small.

Ok now that makes sense, I’m excited to hear some reviews on this thing. It looks pretty sick??

 

[D_TROS]

First race dial in action last weekend in OK. You can mark the target distances, then write the target indicator or wind above the distance...

Very impressive feature.

and you don't have to use tape. use wet erase and it acts as a wet erase board. if that saves you 3 seconds a target not wasting time looking at your arm band or dope card per target and you shoot 10 targets, that's 30 seconds you saved to continue shooting...in other words, Priceless!


Regards,
DT

 

[Steel+Killer]

So putting tape on a turret and writing on it is "innovation"?..............Ok if you say so........

 

[D_TROS]

So putting tape on a turret and writing on it is "innovation"?..............Ok if you say so........

Hey PP

the knob isn't tape. Its a whiteboard that's also impervious to acetone incase some other PP uses perma marker instead of wet erase.

you only use tape if its raining. not needed 99% of the time.


how is that not innovation? a scope company actually listening to shooters??


Regards,
DT

 

[FishDr]

@DT. I won’t even consider this without a blue rifle and Americana head band. LOL

 

[Steel+Killer]

Hey PP

the knob isn't tape. Its a whiteboard that's also impervious to acetone incase some other PP uses perma marker instead of wet erase.

you only use tape if its raining. not needed 99% of the time.


how is that not innovation? a scope company actually listening to shooters??


Regards,
DT

Okay I'll give you that I guess that's a little more Innovative than what I previously thought.