How is this police chief still alive even....how has someone not popped his ass yet.....
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Yep Uvalde just got even worse
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No, the covid stuff was contributing. This was more of a final straw.
Being cowards and not going in is a significant betrayal of public trust. But I admit it’s easy to judge when you aren’t the one that has to breach the door. But to physically stop parents who had the courage to do what was necessary, while you yourself do nothing, is I guess what really sets me off.
He did what they wanted him to do - didn't he? So he will be protected in his new "elected" position. Convenient that he won't be chief anymore, huh?
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Anybody have the scoop on the door's construction? Steel? Solid core wood?
Texas official: Uvalde classroom door unlocked during shooting as officers waited for keys: 'Abject failure'
The Texas public safety chief testified Tuesday that the classroom door was unlocked during the Uvalde mass shooting, yet no police officers tried to open it.www.foxnews.com
I gave up some time ago thinking this incident wouldn’t keep getting worse, with all the initial lies and cover up I just felt we had only seen the tip of the iceberg, and the Uvalde police continue to show how truly inept they are. Short version the story that they had to wait for keys, well the door wasn’t locked, even with their razor sharp skills no one thought evidently to try and just open the door. I was under the assumption that the police were outside the building, and that wasn’t the case. The police were at the classroom door while the shooting occurred, and stood outside the unlocked door for a hour, and none of them evidently reached out to see if it was locked.
Even if had been locked... not a swinging dick in the bunch brought a shotgun with a breaching brake?
If I can hear some shit stain actively murdering a room full of kids, I'm going to try the door... And if it's locked I'm going to do what I can to get through... Not smash my nuts waiting on a key.
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I can forgive them not doing anything more than enforcing un constitutional and un American shit.
It’s easy to judge, I know they don’t have a legal duty to do their perceived jobs, but if you’re scared of getting in a fight, go get a job at the garden dept at lows, If I screw up in my much more dangerous vocation, no one says “we’ll you’re not in his industry”
As a child I looked up to police, became a adult and said the police just need better training, standards and training, after getting experience in the world, I’m more for defunding the police, or at least shit canning 80% of police. I really have very little use for them, and they are more of a pest than anything, plus they only defend themselves and the state, as time after time after time has proven over and over.
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I can scarcely believe this myself but another thing to consider might be that this is a false flag operation against LOCAL law enforcement in favor of only having FEDERAL law enforcement. Consider the following:
How many OTHER major shitstorms like this have NOT been completely covered up? Only THIS one has been exposed AFAIK. Why?
Why would the MSM report the TRUTH all of a sudden? Nobody in our little band of misfits has believed a single word from Fox News or any of the others until now. So IS what we're being told true?
That leads to the question, why would WE all of a sudden BELIEVE everything we're told by the media about this one incident, and why NOW? Confirmation bias?
Never let a good crisis go to waste, somebody probably recognized the opportunity to get a bonus false flag against the idea of local police in the midst of the anti-gun benefits they have reaped from this sacrifice of children to advance their agenda.
All the above rabbitholes bring up the possibility (perhaps only in my propaganda-twisted mind) that maybe the CIA has taken the helm again when it comes to running psyops. After all anybody can now recognize the FBI false flag operations...
None of the above is to be construed as a defense of the police if they are proven guilty of what's been brought up against them, but maybe we do need to slow down a bit and consider the sources of all this damning information. The same sources that heretofore have done nothing but lie and obstruct justice. Now suddenly they're telling us more than we ever dreamed we'd hear.
ETA: Question EVERYthing, not just the obvious shit
How many OTHER major shitstorms like this have NOT been completely covered up? Only THIS one has been exposed AFAIK. Why?
Why would the MSM report the TRUTH all of a sudden? Nobody in our little band of misfits has believed a single word from Fox News or any of the others until now. So IS what we're being told true?
That leads to the question, why would WE all of a sudden BELIEVE everything we're told by the media about this one incident, and why NOW? Confirmation bias?
Never let a good crisis go to waste, somebody probably recognized the opportunity to get a bonus false flag against the idea of local police in the midst of the anti-gun benefits they have reaped from this sacrifice of children to advance their agenda.
All the above rabbitholes bring up the possibility (perhaps only in my propaganda-twisted mind) that maybe the CIA has taken the helm again when it comes to running psyops. After all anybody can now recognize the FBI false flag operations...
None of the above is to be construed as a defense of the police if they are proven guilty of what's been brought up against them, but maybe we do need to slow down a bit and consider the sources of all this damning information. The same sources that heretofore have done nothing but lie and obstruct justice. Now suddenly they're telling us more than we ever dreamed we'd hear.
ETA: Question EVERYthing, not just the obvious shit
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None of this really matters when you understand the state is murdering men, women, and children. None of it matters when the population is under cultural and financial attack as well. None of it matters when you realize that not one city, county, or state official has called out and/or refused to work with an unconstitutional federal gov’t.
Point being is that the whole of government is hostile in some form or fashion to the people considering city, state, and the fed continue to work with one another and the two former or complicit with the crimes of the latter and in many cases accomplices.
I had heard one of the many theories going around about just what you said about the federal police. They want to make a case for a federal police force. Locals just aren't up to the job, we need federales for the big jobs. That's why they waited for border patrol to show up. Allegedly.
Are we sure the police were even police, not crisis actors? There were several pictures and people's accounts of how poorly dressed for the occasion Uvalde pd and the sheriff's department were. The way they carried long guns, the loose fitting kit. One thing I've seen in my ao, when the locals get an excuse to play army they do there best to dress and play the part. A lot of them go around that way all the time. It's kind of funny really.
I had read a few stories that the parents asked the cops since they weren't going in if they would at least give them their vests do they could go in and get their kids.
Bwaaaahahaha.
If that's true why haven't they quit?
I said it on day one.. every one of those POS ' should have turned in their badge and gun.
How many have? Has there been a mass exodus in the department? Have they called in other departments to cover for the lack of officers?
Yeah, that's what I thought
What the fuck is going to come out of Uvalde next? That the cops shoved more loaded magazines under the door for the shooter to use? At this point I am not going to be surprised if that is what comes out next.
Would the federal police have a duty to protect and no qualified immunity?
Otherwise, just seems like the same shit, gov is going to gov and always push my rights. It’s the nature of the beast, but also why our bill of rights and the federalist papers say what they say. Government was always just a manic janitor, a necessary evil, and something both needed, and needing to be defended against
And no one is willing to take responsibility for bein 'Watch commander'. FuckTexas official: Uvalde classroom door unlocked during shooting as officers waited for keys: 'Abject failure'
The Texas public safety chief testified Tuesday that the classroom door was unlocked during the Uvalde mass shooting, yet no police officers tried to open it.
I gave up some time ago thinking this incident wouldn’t keep getting worse, with all the initial lies and cover up I just felt we had only seen the tip of the iceberg, and the Uvalde police continue to show how truly inept they are. Short version the story that they had to wait for keys, well the door wasn’t locked, even with their razor sharp skills no one thought evidently to try and just open the door. I was under the assumption that the police were outside the building, and that wasn’t the case. The police were at the classroom door while the shooting occurred, and stood outside the unlocked door for a hour, and none of them evidently reached out to see if it was locked.
Your government hates you.
How much more proof do you need?
How much more proof do you need?
FIREMISSION for everyone with Youtube accounts: Go to any videos covering the Uvalde shooting and comment:
"And this is the same government that thinks we should give up our guns and trust our safety to them".
"And this is the same government that thinks we should give up our guns and trust our safety to them".
I was a teen when i learned this. Things have not added up and that was in the early 90’s, when i first paid any attention, i would not consider myself someone who is perceptive either. The cards are stacked against you and i, all of us. Especially if you are white and male.
I hear you have options to change these nowadays…
This would only bother a real man, none of which were present in that hallway.
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Mirrors only tell half truths. Wanna guess which half these guys see in the mirror
I agree. It's just another power grab in my opinion. More brownshirts.
There's plenty of video.
Remember: BACK THE BLUE!
Yeah then they threatened her not to speak out about it. She did it anyway. Good for her.
There's plenty of video.
Remember: BACK THE BLUE!
Before I click this, what level of boomer badge defender are we talking here if any?
You know, this shit show was on the local TV pravda here in central TX almost as it was unfolding, and I remember noticing guys with ATF and FBI labeled vests all over the place and I thought "wait a minute, I've been to Uvalde and there ain't no FBI or ATF closer than San Antonio if even".
Tin foil? Maybe, just seems strange to me. How did they get there so fast? And why call in feds when Texas has sheriffs, police, constables, state patrol, Texas Rangers, etc.?
Doesn't matter, I cleared an 8 story building with all metal doors in Iraq. Enough anger and violence with some tools and you can open anything. My 135lb self did it more than a few times.
I can't confirm it as I haven't don't the research but, there were a few reports of people googling Robb elementary and it showed up as having been closed down for the last five years. Supposedly it had just recently been reopened. Like I said, I haven't dug into that one myself.
Also, there was a picture of one of the teachers killed there that was also the first American casullalty in ukraine and he also died at sandy hook. I should have screenshot that article because I can't find it now.
Since most law enforcement agencies especially small po-dunk agencies don't follow the National Incident Command systems is partly to blame. Lots of peacocks strutting around with nobody taking command is the biggest failure here. Besides the elephant in the room which was cowardice. Plain and simple and now lets pass the buck and start the blame game. First on scene should always be in charge period, active shooting plans are already in place but were ignored. Too many chiefs involved in this who either didn't have any training in ICS or just want to ignore the fact that everybody here didn't do their job except the men that didn't hesitate which were few. https://www.ahimta.org/resources/Documents/AHIMTA_LawEnforcementImplementationICS.pdf
Hope thats sarcastic. You cany possibly believe it was suicide. They were the ones that wouldn'tnt go along with the lie
Uvalde officer passed up shot at gunman for fear of hitting children
A city police officer armed with an AR-15-style rifle hesitated when he had a brief chance to shoot the gunman approaching a school in Uvalde, Texas, because he did not want to hit children, according to a senior sheriff’s deputy...
www.seattletimes.com
Don’t forget the part where a cop with a rifle saw the shooter outside but was too incompetent to kill him. The whole “ I didn’t want to accidentally kill a kid if I missed” so he instead lets a deranged individual with a rifle in the building to kill a bunch of them. But hey at least he didn’t do it.
Cop husband of murdered Uvalde teacher tried to rush in and save wife
Eva Mireles's husband Ruben Ruiz was detained in a hallway at Robb Elementary School during the shooting which left 19 students and two teachers, on May 24 as he rushed to his wife's aid.
Or the part where they prevented a fellow officer from saving his wife who then died in the ambulance because she bled for over an hour before they got to her. They will probably red flag him so that he doesn’t come to work one day and kill them all for what they did.
I’m afraid of what needs to happenUvalde officer passed up shot at gunman for fear of hitting children
A city police officer armed with an AR-15-style rifle hesitated when he had a brief chance to shoot the gunman approaching a school in Uvalde, Texas, because he did not want to hit children, according to a senior sheriff’s deputy...
Don’t forget the part where a cop with a rifle saw the shooter outside but was too incompetent to kill him. The whole “ I didn’t want to accidentally kill a kid if I missed” so he instead lets a deranged individual with a rifle in the building to kill a bunch of them. But hey at least he didn’t do it.
Cop husband of murdered Uvalde teacher tried to rush in and save wife
Eva Mireles's husband Ruben Ruiz was detained in a hallway at Robb Elementary School during the shooting which left 19 students and two teachers, on May 24 as he rushed to his wife's aid.www.dailymail.co.uk
Or the part where they prevented a fellow officer from saving his wife who then died in the ambulance because she bled for over an hour before they got to her. They will probably red flag him so that he doesn’t come to work one day and kill them all for what they did.
live senate hearing
Btw I have held off scrutiny until I heard the facts. After watching the first day of this. Those fucking cops, especially the chief deserve every bit of scrutiny they are getting!!!!
Btw I have held off scrutiny until I heard the facts. After watching the first day of this. Those fucking cops, especially the chief deserve every bit of scrutiny they are getting!!!!
Slain Uvalde teacher’s officer husband tried to save his wife but was detained, had gun taken away — TODAY
Officer Ruiz attempted to storm the school after his wife, Eva Mireles, called him telling him she had been shot.
apple.news
So this police officer got a call from his own wife inside the school saying she was shot.
He rushes to get inside only to have other cops take his gun, escort him out and detain him?
I don’t know where to begin it’s so bad & seemingly gets worse by the day.
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Texas official: Uvalde classroom door unlocked during shooting as officers waited for keys: 'Abject failure'
The Texas public safety chief testified Tuesday that the classroom door was unlocked during the Uvalde mass shooting, yet no police officers tried to open it.
I gave up some time ago thinking this incident wouldn’t keep getting worse, with all the initial lies and cover up I just felt we had only seen the tip of the iceberg, and the Uvalde police continue to show how truly inept they are. Short version the story that they had to wait for keys, well the door wasn’t locked, even with their razor sharp skills no one thought evidently to try and just open the door. I was under the assumption that the police were outside the building, and that wasn’t the case. The police were at the classroom door while the shooting occurred, and stood outside the unlocked door for a hour, and none of them evidently reached out to see if it was locked.
These are the fucks that are supposed to "keep us safe"?
GTFO
I'll keep myself safe, thank you very much.
Aw man, they should have called the local volunteer fire department!
We had a relatively small fire at work, contained to part of one small poured cement room. Even though building staff were standing there with the master keys in hand, offering to open the doors, they halligan tool'd, kicked in and axed to pieces 52 doors, on three different floors!!
They called the wrong guys!
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I want to say that this can't get any worse but my word, more just keeps coming in and now I'm reading about the LE that tried to help his wife.
I swear, if you wanted to write a script for Law abiding citizen 2 you pretty much got it.
I swear, if you wanted to write a script for Law abiding citizen 2 you pretty much got it.
I think this whole event should be pushed as why we need LESS “gun control”
Seems the only thing following the kings law, and trusting the kings men did was allow a nut job to go on a unabridged killing spree, while the cops were too cowardly to do that “protect and serve” shit, but still we’re tuff enough to handcuff moms trying to save the kids that the cops were too chicken shit to save.
This screams citizens need to be better armed, and we should disarm/disband most police , and apparently nutjob murderers don’t seem to care about gun laws and “gun free zone” signs.
Seems the only thing following the kings law, and trusting the kings men did was allow a nut job to go on a unabridged killing spree, while the cops were too cowardly to do that “protect and serve” shit, but still we’re tuff enough to handcuff moms trying to save the kids that the cops were too chicken shit to save.
This screams citizens need to be better armed, and we should disarm/disband most police , and apparently nutjob murderers don’t seem to care about gun laws and “gun free zone” signs.
That makes you a criminal in the eyes of the state. LEO would have no problem arresting you leaving your children fatherless for the time being thinking you can destroy their monopoly on violence.
Less government which means less police and many more guns in the hands of good men is what this country needs. Anyone that believes having more cops in schools when 50 wasn’t enough in Uvalde is a dumbass.
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Well, it appears The police were proficient and trained at securing a perimeter but that’s about it. Confronting and taking down an active shooter they have no skills for that
Our local pravda news here in TX said they did, but who knows and what kind of training?
Remember the largest US mas casualty shooting was perpetrated by the US Govt (And they awarded MOH for it too!)....
That's how governments all over the world handle political dissidents AFTER they are disarmed.
Remember the largest US mas casualty shooting was perpetrated by the US Govt (And they awarded MOH for it too!)....
And I'm not all that comfortable with the fact that I am now considered a political dissident for disagreeing with the current regime.... but being armed helps!
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