If I had a nickle for every time I heard "he's a Marine" used in a "he must know how to shoot" manner, I could afford a ZCO.
^^^^ This right here. I love S&B and especially love their new DT II+ turrets but hard to beat the visual experience of the ZCO!
Just 15?
No. Like a wedding ring. Hence the keeping it from going down
The scores here refute what I've seen in real life, though I haven't seen all of those scopes, nor can I read German.
Hah same, I could decipher some parts but it left me empty without further context, it seems reading the results requires having read the whole test article.
Well it looks like I’ll have to buy another one when the time comesThey are listening to customers and that is a request being taken seriously
Well this is highly suspect. My ZP5's held their own optically with the Tangent Theta and according to the optical performance chart that means TT would be under the Vortex Razor??? Also had the PST II 5-25 which was a great scope for the price but the Minox was worlds better optically and according to this chart only 1 point better???
Looks like I need to sell my ZP5 and get a Vortex Viper lol.
I have a WTB posting on the PX for a PMII 5-25x with H2CMR reticle...so clearly I like enough of what SB has to offer.
That being said the one thing that really annoys me about SB are the plastic checkers they use for turret caps. At least it feels like plastic to me. For MSRP $3500, I just expect aluminum everywhere.
Compare this to my Kahles K624i or Steiner M5xi and the PMII just falls short in this area IMO. One bang on a rail, one slip from a rack, or one scrape unloading andrather than brushing black paint off metal you are worrying about the plastic turret cracking or chipping like a cheap cell phone case cover.
Ok, maybe not that much. But i think this goes back to what many have said before here. At this level the glass is really good (I still prefer SB glass > Kahles > Steiner at 20-25x) so you need to look for other things about the scope to justify buying or passing.
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I have a WTB posting on the PX for a PMII 5-25x with H2CMR reticle...so clearly I like enough of what SB has to offer.
That being said the one thing that really annoys me about SB are the plastic checkers they use for turret caps. At least it feels like plastic to me. For MSRP $3500, I just expect aluminum everywhere.
Compare this to my Kahles K624i or Steiner M5xi and the PMII just falls short in this area IMO. One bang on a rail, one slip from a rack, or one scrape unloading andrather than brushing black paint off metal you are worrying about the plastic turret cracking or chipping like a cheap cell phone case cover.
Ok, maybe not that much. But i think this goes back to what many have said before here. At this level the glass is really good (I still prefer SB glass > Kahles > Steiner at 20-25x) so you need to look for other things about the scope to justify buying or passing.
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And yet there’s a third possibility maybe he just doesn’t know who he called out. You know what they say never argue with idiots they will just bring you down to their level and beat you with experience
