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Only if they're on a wall, not in the field, apparently.So basically they only want to see their optics pictured on Flintlocks?
Blasphemy, what the hell would the Bear Pit be without people believing everything they read on the internet. You trying to shut this place down?Maybe we could wait for authentication before you start believing shit from the internet.
Posting some shit story from the www without even trying to verify?
There's definitely someone here on the Hide with connections to verify it. Post it in the scope forums and find out.
Way to throw water on a burning torch. The next thing you’ll say is to put away the pitch forks…Maybe we could wait for authentication before you start believing shit from the internet.
Posting some shit story from the www without even trying to verify?
There's definitely someone here on the Hide with connections to verify it. Post it in the scope forums and find out.
Fuckin-A!Maybe we could wait for authentication before you start believing shit from the internet.
Posting some shit story from the www without even trying to verify?
There's definitely someone here on the Hide with connections to verify it. Post it in the scope forums and find out.
I’m not sure how close you fallow the hunting side of things and the Field Ethos, but I’d be willing to bet they wouldn’t make wild off the cuff accusations like that. Never know I guess though. I guess I’d say why Zeiss if they were to pick on a company.Maybe we could wait for authentication before you start believing shit from the internet.
Posting some shit story from the www without even trying to verify?
There's definitely someone here on the Hide with connections to verify it. Post it in the scope forums and find out.
I mean it’s kinda why I chose the bear pit to post. I put it up in the observation section with a more subtle title. We’ll see what they say. Field Ethos won’t just throw garbage around. But I guess assuming everyone would know that organization is kinda foolish too. I posted a link in another reply to them.Blasphemy, what the hell would the Bear Pit be without people believing everything they read on the internet. You trying to shut this place down?
While what you posted looks like it came from them, field ethos, it doesn't make it real.I’m not sure how close you fallow the hunting side of things and the Field Ethos, but I’d be willing to bet they wouldn’t make wild off the cuff accusations like that. Never know I guess though. I guess I’d say why Zeiss if they were to pick on a company.
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Damn, there's that annoying voice of reason again.Maybe we could wait for authentication before you start believing shit from the internet.
Posting some shit story from the www without even trying to verify?
There's definitely someone here on the Hide with connections to verify it. Post it in the scope forums and find out.
ZCO is better anyway and American made, though a Hensoldt I got to look through was some damn fine glass.Fuck em. Vote with your dollars.
Fair enough. I get the skepticism man. I know the internet is full of fake garbage and I think I do a good job of knowing the few times it’s ok to assume there might be something there. I guess I don’t know how else something like this comes to light without out someone other than company itself shedding light on the situation. I doubt you’ll see Fox News or CNN breaking this story. If a Don Trump Jr organization is giving a heads up its worth looking into. I’m not saying fuck these guys, but from my eyes it’ll take someone to show me blasphemy to not lean in that direction. I made a more subtle titled thread in observation section. That being said I’m not sure that anyone from Zeiss is chomping at the bit to confirm it….I am going to wager that there's a Zeiss pro staff here. So post it in the appropriate forum and get the facts.
While what you posted looks like it came from them, field ethos, it doesn't make it real.
Don't believe anything until verification with BS like this.
I'll wager that this is not the only place that false flag has been posted to.
Ive only seen the lower $$$ ones but Igot to look through a top tier Hensoldt and it was truly unlike anything Ive seen. The tube virtually disappeared and the glass was crystal clear. Dont care much for their reticle selection.sorry guys, but even if the company did say something that ass-backwards, you cannot beat zeiss for low light capability in a rifle scope, so they will be staying on my primary hunting rifles. I will kill things with their products to spite their new ethos, if nothing else.
I have kahles, Swaro, Meopta, S&B including the T96, and none of them do better in low light than the Victory V8. Even my 20-year old Diavaris are brighter and optically better than most scopes out there.
the landowner always told me I was full of shit and was "throwing money away" with my optics until he sat in the blind with me. Long after his fudd scope lost the ability to discern between a hay bale and a deer, he was evaluating racks my Swaro EL's and then finding the deer with my zeiss.Ive only seen the lower $$$ ones but Igot to look through a top tier Hensoldt and it was truly unlike anything Ive seen. The tube virtually disappeared and the glass was crystal clear. Dont care much for their reticle selection.
No adjustable cheek rests?
Or extended handguards. You're not tactical if someone can see the gas block.
So does that mean that they are going to disavow all those sniper scopes they made in WW2... you know... for the Boy Scouts.Are they still 100% based in Germany? If so, then I think I know the reasoning behind this albeit I don't agree with it at all.
If they are still German based, they are bound to a bunch of retarded regulations based on feels in Germany. This is why the differences between what HK from Germany puts out versus the often hilarious shit HK USA puts out in US media; its the bullshit German/EU rules.
Zeiss as far as optics (Hensoldt) has basically 1 client in Europe - the EU military. Everything else is microscopes and high end glass shit.
So with that being the case, and the rest of the EU/German bullshit rules, this makes sense. However, I think its totally fucking retarded.
But if this is for the US Market, then I have no fucking explanation other than they have determined to be a Fudd optic.
Yea Donald Trump Jr played it real well.You got to hand it to random internet media co, this was probably one of the best ways to draw more interest and subs to their brand by making an internet controversy and have it go viral.
So does that mean that they are going to disavow all those sniper scopes they made in WW2... you know... for the Boy Scouts.
I mean... they were pretty tacticool while slaughtering everything that moved while on the defensive...
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Come to think of it... no semi-autos. No camoflage clothing. No urban environments. No high-capacity magazines. Adjustable cheek pieces? Nein. Dead animals? I know nothing! Children... no on zee kinder. Extended handguards? Raus!
In other words, here are Zeiss's new marketing photos! Perfect! "As Tested by zee Wehrmacht!" This ought to really boost sales in France, Belgium and Poland.
Just 'sayin.
Sirhr
If this is all true….as I previously said, f em.Yea Donald Trump Jr played it real well.
And let’s face it, not that many people will give two shits because they’ve never bought or looked at a Zeiss. If I wanted to start a viral controversy in the shooting sports/hunting world I think I’d choose a different company than Zeiss lol.
Fair enough. I get the skepticism man. I know the internet is full of fake garbage and I think I do a good job of knowing the few times it’s ok to assume there might be something there. I guess I don’t know how else something like this comes to light without out someone other than company itself shedding light on the situation. I doubt you’ll see Fox News or CNN breaking this story. If a Don Trump Jr organization is giving a heads up its worth looking into. I’m not saying fuck these guys, but from my eyes it’ll take someone to show me blasphemy to not lean in that direction. I made a more subtle titled thread in observation section. That being said I’m not sure that anyone from Zeiss is chomping at the bit to confirm it….
But think about that who else would Americans love to hate? Germans. Perfect target.Yea Donald Trump Jr played it real well.
And let’s face it, not that many people will give two shits because they’ve never bought or looked at a Zeiss. If I wanted to start a viral controversy in the shooting sports/hunting world I think I’d choose a different company than Zeiss lol.
Not sure the Germans are on the short list of people Americans love to hate.But think about that who else would Americans love to hate? Germans. Perfect target.
Wait so does that mean we are done with GAP now?
No it’s the promote safe firearm handling and zeiss protestWait so does that mean we are done with GAP now?![]()
Not sure the Germans are on the short list of people Americans love to hate.
The French... definitely.
Not so sure about the Germans.
Sirhr
They were all on vacation.
I actually have an original Zeiss Zielsechs that from the serial is dated somewhere in the early 1940s.
Both of us throwing around alot of maybes lol. I guess I’m not picking up what you’re putting down other than maybe you’re saying their account was hacked.Have you thought that maybe whoever could be/maybe/trolling Zeiss is using Trump Jr to gain clout for their BS? Trump and that organization may not have a clue that they are being used?
It’s my screen shot. Copper plated sixes is a dude in the hunting social community that puts a lot of the bad eggs on public blast. Calls out influencers on poaching and legal charges, etc. yes they mad the post.Who is Copper Plated Sixes? And, has anyone actually confirmed that whatever this Field Ethos Journal is actually made the post in question? I mean, its not like its hard to fake a screen capture.
Both of us throwing around alot of maybes lol. I guess I’m not picking up what you’re putting down other than maybe you’re saying their account was hacked.