Rifle Scopes Zero Compromise Optic update

[CSTactical]

Kind of odd that it doesn't come with covers, considering the price. I mean, even the Revic scopes come with covers (which are Tenebrex made, with the Revic logo).

ZCO wanted to come in at a competitive price point since they are new to the market when they actually produce a scope that is overall a value well above its price point. Many competitive shooters take their caps and throw them back in a box so it's an optional accessory. Right now people are buying a ~$4,000 scope at a $400-$500 discount, I say that makes up for the caps IMO.

 

[srt-4_uk]

Like I said, it's odd to me (kind of like buying a high end TV, and it didn't come with a $15 cable needed to hook it up). But it's certainly not a deal breaker.

But that $15 cable is too long for my application and too short for yours. Wouldnt you rather have the price be $15 less so you can buy the correct length cable?
If the price was $75 higher but came with caps, the guy who was planning on bikini covers would be upset they paid for caps that will live in a box.

 

[b2lee]

Well...the difference between a scope and a TV.....I can use my scope all day long from the minute it arrives...without covers....but that TV I thought had a cable....mofo...I'm in the car cussing all the way to BestBuy/Wally World to get a cable....

How about a nice chassis...you get it in...fits your action like butter...and you don't have action screws...now that is a bummer.

 

[srt-4_uk]

but the scope didnt come with rings. so now you are cussing your way to cabelas. Or should they raise the price $200 and include rings?

I'd rather have a lower price vs paying for crap I wont use. I also have a box in my basement full of component cables, shitty keyboards/mice, garbage speakers, and other "freebies" that raised the price of the thing I actually wanted.

 

[Zorrosdens]

Goddamn. $100 steak in the 90’s?

Gas was $0.79/gallon and I remember seeing a $100 bill was actually a semi rare occurrence. You could eat and drive all week in $100.

.........fuck I’m getting old.

I remember that gas price, up from $.40 to $.70+...I said there’s no way it will ever reach a dollar, young and dumb.

 

[mercracing]

Anyone know when a sunshade will be available?

 

[Raptorman2014]

Anyone know when a sunshade will be available?

I spoke with Jeff earlier today. He had just placed the order today and expect sunshades at dealers in a few weeks.

 

[CSTactical]

Anyone know when a sunshade will be available?

Sorry I missed this question, we will have them in a few weeks ?

 

[Mormegil87]

Anyone having issues with the ZCO and Spuhr mounts causing binding of the parallax knob?

I had a 6001 that would bind up my parralax knob at less than 15 in/lbs of torque on the rings. I don't have any issues with other mounts (ARC 50 in/lbs and MPA 25 in/lbs).

I sent the Spuhr back and am I'm waiting on one I picked up off a hide member to see if it was the mount or if I'm having scope issues.

 

[Raptorman2014]

Anyone having issues with the ZCO and Spuhr mounts causing binding of the parallax knob?

I had a 6001 that would bind up my parralax knob at less than 15 in/lbs of torque on the rings. I don't have any issues with other mounts (ARC 50 in/lbs and MPA 25 in/lbs).

I sent the Spuhr back and am I'm waiting on one I picked up off a hide member to see if it was the mount or if I'm having scope issues.

Negative, but did have an issue with a theta and spuhr.

 

[mercracing]

Anyone having issues with the ZCO and Spuhr mounts causing binding of the parallax knob?

I had a 6001 that would bind up my parralax knob at less than 15 in/lbs of torque on the rings. I don't have any issues with other mounts (ARC 50 in/lbs and MPA 25 in/lbs).

I sent the Spuhr back and am I'm waiting on one I picked up off a hide member to see if it was the mount or if I'm having scope issues.

I torqued mine to 15 inlb, then 20 with no problems.

 

[Mormegil87]

I torqued mine to 15 inlb, then 20 with no problems.

I know. You told me today.

 

[mercracing]

I know. You told me today.

I know. I was sharing for the group.

 

[Dthomas3523]

Anyone having issues with the ZCO and Spuhr mounts causing binding of the parallax knob?

I had a 6001 that would bind up my parralax knob at less than 15 in/lbs of torque on the rings. I don't have any issues with other mounts (ARC 50 in/lbs and MPA 25 in/lbs).

I sent the Spuhr back and am I'm waiting on one I picked up off a hide member to see if it was the mount or if I'm having scope issues.

I possibly had issues. Didn’t take a ton of time to verify and I swapped to ARC. Zero issues since.

 

[earthtrekker1775]

Have not used Spuhr but I can verify that the RRS mount does not cause any binding.

 

[Dj907]

Got mine all mounted up ??

 

[Moose]

That scope looks outstanding on that rifle well done.

 

[CSTactical]

Anyone having issues with the ZCO and Spuhr mounts causing binding of the parallax knob?

I had a 6001 that would bind up my parralax knob at less than 15 in/lbs of torque on the rings. I don't have any issues with other mounts (ARC 50 in/lbs and MPA 25 in/lbs).

I sent the Spuhr back and am I'm waiting on one I picked up off a hide member to see if it was the mount or if I'm having scope issues.

I have not seen that happen, please let us know what your findings are.

 

[Mike4837]

Anyone having issues with the ZCO and Spuhr mounts causing binding of the parallax knob?

I had a 6001 that would bind up my parralax knob at less than 15 in/lbs of torque on the rings. I don't have any issues with other mounts (ARC 50 in/lbs and MPA 25 in/lbs).

I sent the Spuhr back and am I'm waiting on one I picked up off a hide member to see if it was the mount or if I'm having scope issues.

No issues with my Spuhr on my 4-20 ZCO either.

 

[Jimgal62]

No issues with my Spuhr on my 4-20 ZCO either.

I have had no issues with my Sp

Anyone having issues with the ZCO and Spuhr mounts causing binding of the parallax knob?

I had a 6001 that would bind up my parralax knob at less than 15 in/lbs of torque on the rings. I don't have any issues with other mounts (ARC 50 in/lbs and MPA 25 in/lbs).

I sent the Spuhr back and am I'm waiting on one I picked up off a hide member to see if it was the mount or if I'm having scope issues.

I have not had any issues with my Spuhr 6601 and my ZCO.

 

[b2lee]

Anyone have an ETA on the new MPCT3 reticles? Is shipping to the USA going to be delayed?

 

[CSTactical]

Anyone have an ETA on the new MPCT3 reticles? I shipping to the USA going to be delayed?

There has been no word of a delay as of right now

 

[NorthWesterner]

Got mine all mounted up ??View attachment 7274137

Which mount?

 

[Dj907]

Which mount?

Spuhr 6001

 

[jtackmann]

After debating on mpct2 and 3 since shot, placed an order for a 5-27 mpct2 with a 6001 mount for my AXMC today. Had a Mile High gift card, hopefully will have it before coming out of quarantine

 

[mercracing]

Does anyone have a DFAT adaptor to fit the ZCO they want to sell?

 

[Mormegil87]

Well I tested another Spuhr and it doesn't bind as much as the first at 15lbs and 20lbs but there is definitely some drag there.

 

[A&8's]

Does anyone have a DFAT adaptor to fit the ZCO they want to sell?

#47 Gen 1. Not sure about the Gen 2 DFAT.

 

[A&8's]

Anyone having issues with the ZCO and Spuhr mounts causing binding of the parallax knob?

I had a 6001 that would bind up my parralax knob at less than 15 in/lbs of torque on the rings. I don't have any issues with other mounts (ARC 50 in/lbs and MPA 25 in/lbs).

I sent the Spuhr back and am I'm waiting on one I picked up off a hide member to see if it was the mount or if I'm having scope issues.

No binding issues in my 6002 torqued to 23"/lbs.

 

[Mormegil87]

I'm a little confused because ARC rings cause no problems at all.

Update: Spoke with Jeff for a while and he took the time to go through the build specs on the parallax setup within the scope. It seems to be narrowed down to the mounts causing the issues. Especially considering that the ARC rings and the MPA do not have any issues at torque specs higher than that of the Spuhr.

 

[CSTactical]

I'm a little confused because ARC rings cause no problems at all.

Why don't you try giving Jeff a call at 208-435-4000, maybe he'll want you to send in those particular Spuhr mounts with the scope to check them on other ZCO's he has on hand. Anything man made can have an issue no matter the cost or who makes it, but you also should consider that those mounts may have an issue as well, it could be the installation and/or your torque wrench/limiter.

 

[Mormegil87]

Planning on it this afternoon.

 

[Mormegil87]

Update: Spoke with Jeff for a while and he took the time to go through the build specs on the parallax setup within the scope. It seems to be narrowed down to the mounts causing the issues. Especially considering that the ARC rings and the MPA do not have any issues at torque specs higher than that of the Spuhr. Guess I'll be using ARC rings or MPA mounts going forward.

 

[Mormegil87]

Update 2: Found an older document from 2015 with the order of how to tighten the screws on the Spuhr. Also switched the ring caps around and that seems to help substantially. Going to roll with it for awhile since there are no matches coming up and keep the ARCs in reserve.

 

[Dj907]

That scope looks outstanding on that rifle well done.

Thanks??

 

[Bb214]

Which zco do you have Dj?

 

[Dj907]

Which zco do you have Dj?

Zco 420

 

[NorthWesterner]

So good! I can’t wait to put it to work.

 

[Zorrosdens]

What happened to ZCO’s site different language now, still can’t find how to fix it. Will keep trying. All of my ZCO bookmarks are not functioning correctly.

 

[gebhardt02]

What happened to ZCO’s site different language now, still can’t find how to fix it. Will keep trying. All of my ZCO bookmarks are not functioning correctly.

A new website was launched. In the upper right corner is supposed to be a country flag to choose Austria or U.S. Some glitch though that'll get fixed this week so the flags aren't showing up. The button is still there, The U.S. is the second space down. I think you'll see what I mean when you look for it.

 

[Dthomas3523]

@gebhardt02 looking at the instruction manual online. Has three optics in the pic. A 420, a 527 and......is that a 527 with a sunshade or.....something else??

 

[Moose]

A new website was launched. In the upper right corner is supposed to be a country flag to choose Austria or U.S. Some glitch though that'll get fixed this week so the flags aren't showing up. The button is still there, The U.S. is the second space down. I think you'll see what I mean when you look for it.

Thank's for the info it works fine that way.I like the new websight.

 

[gebhardt02]

@gebhardt02 looking at the instruction manual online. Has three optics in the pic. A 420, a 527 and......is that a 527 with a sunshade or.....something else??

Nice find! Without sharing too many details, all I can say right now is it's a new project. Details to be released later when we are closer to having prototypes for testing. ??

 

[Dthomas3523]

Nice find! Without sharing too many details, all I can say right now is it's a new project. Details to be released later when we are closer to having prototypes for testing. ??

Dibbs!!

 

[Zorrosdens]

A new website was launched. In the upper right corner is supposed to be a country flag to choose Austria or U.S. Some glitch though that'll get fixed this week so the flags aren't showing up. The button is still there, The U.S. is the second space down. I think you'll see what I mean when you look for it.

Yes...pegging that “blank” square in the upper right corner brings a drop-down second “blank” box that you hit for the English Language version, works well and I DO like the new site rich with info (including the new MCPT3 reticle now) and engaging graphics...much better imo. ?

 

[davere]

@gebhardt02 looking at the instruction manual online. Has three optics in the pic. A 420, a 527 and......is that a 527 with a sunshade or.....something else??

Looks like a higher mag scope - just by lengthening the optical path (with appropriate changes to the lensing), you can end up at something like a 35x - and if you keep the erector the same, that essentially gives you a 7-35, using same back half of the scope. Really, that's the big difference between the 420 and 527, too (the erector likely differs a bit between them, one being 5x and the other being 5.4x, but you get the point, I'm sure)

 

[CSTactical]

Nice find! Without sharing too many details, all I can say right now is it's a new project. Details to be released later when we are closer to having prototypes for testing. ??

 

[jtackmann]

Brown Santa came with a gift, now just need covid to go away so I can take her out ?

 

[Baner]

Any news on when the MPCT3 scopes starts leaving the factory?

 

[Dthomas3523]

Any news on when the MPCT3 scopes starts leaving the factory?

Last world was April. I wouldn’t expect much news until then.