Zero Compromise ZC840 8-40x56 starting to ship to CS Tactical!

[CSTactical]

11/17/22: One available ZC840 MPCT1 coming in today! Grab one soon and it could ship today

Zero Compromise Optic ZC840 8-40x56 Riflescope

The Zero Compromise Optic (ZCO) ZC840 is the ultimate solution for all your target engagement requirements.

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Through the scope pictures here: https://www.snipershide.com/shootin...-to-ship-to-cs-tactical.7105718/post-10565936




More information to be released soon! Here is a dedicated thread to talk about ZCO's fantastic offering
Please PM us your information to get in line or ask any other questions

Pre-Order here: https://cstactical.com/copy-of-zco-8-40x56-zc840-riflescope/

Pricing will be $4,150.00 to $4,625.00 for the Tremor 5 reticle
Optional NLE is $150

 

[BLKWLFK9]

Holy fuck balls. That's going to be pricey. That bitch is going to be a bad mother.

 

[leftyk82]

Wow

 

[Dogtown]

My timing sucks...

 

[ScarlettRed]

Tremor 5. That's new

 

[waveslayer]

I have to sell another kid again!!! My wife isn't going to be happy about this

 

[ClintQuint]

that's badass!!

 

[gebhardt02]

Yep, few new things for 2022 with the 8-40 being the top interest item I expect. Dealers will all have pertinent information very soon. More details and stuff at SHOT. Please come visit us at booth 71046 in the new Caesar's Forum.

 

[Franko]

Very much looking forward to learning more about this.

 

[Krob95]

I wish I was a gun bunny so I could go to SHOT and check this out early can't wait to see more info on this bad boy! Especially regarding price

Edit: they added the price right after I made this comment lol

 

[Tyler Kemp]

$4150.

Next year the 12-60x will be $5150

disclaimer i just made a poor joke, no fact to this

 

[Tyler Kemp]

I wish I was a gun bunny so I could go to SHOT and check this out early can't wait to see more info on this bad boy! Especially regarding price

I'll post plenty of pics but put price above.

 

[deersniper]

WiTF!

So much wasted resources

 

[RayDBonz]

Length and weight?

 

[Krob95]

WiTF!

So much wasted resources

Just get a NF bro




I kid I kid

 

[Tyler Kemp]

Length and weight?

Both are in the info above

 

[ThePretzel]

Length and weight?

Right in the original post's spec sheet

 

[Krob95]

Length and weight?

17.32" 40oz


Source: the info above

 

[deersniper]

is the MPCT3 discontinued?

 

[ThePretzel]

Pricing will be $4,150.00 to $4,625.00 for the Tremor 5 reticle

Tremor 5 reticle you say?

 

[CSTactical]

Tremor 5 reticle you say?

TREMOR5™ Competition Optimized Reticle - Horus Vision

Learn Available From The TREMOR5™ reticle is designed to provide the basic capabilities of the TREMOR3™ reticle but with a more clear field of view. Removing the Rapid Range bars and moving target holds makes this reticle ideal for competition shooting. Retaining the 0.2 milliradian Horus Grid...

www.horusvision.com

 

[ntrinsik]

So.. just call to be added to the list?

 

[Yerman]

28 mils of elevation long range scope. Lol

Really missed the mark on that one.

 

[CSTactical]

So.. just call to be added to the list?

PM me your information

 

[Dogtown]

28 mils of elevation long range scope. Lol

Really missed the mark on that one.

It's really tricky to do with high magnification. Take a look at the available elevation on the S&B High Power line: the 5-45x has quite a bit less available than say the 3-27x.

 

[RayDBonz]

Both are in the info above

Well, that's the problem - it was in plain English! Thanks!

 

[CSTactical]

28 mils of elevation long range scope. Lol

Really missed the mark on that one.

Negative, it's covered in the podcast:

The Everyday Sniper Episode 244: Jeff Huber Zero Compromise Optics Interview | The Everyday Sniper

The Everyday Sniper Episode 244: Jeff Huber Zero Compromise Optics Interview In this episode I am talking with Jeff Huber from Zero Compromise Optics. We discuss the history and background behind this excellent optic. Jeff comes from several Tier One scope companies and that experience has...

theeverydaysniper.podbean.com

 

[Huskydriver]

Tremor 5 and no msr2 wtf I demand a recount lol

 

[st1650]

If you have the kind of money to play at ELR distances, you have the kind of money to afford a TARAC.
28 mils get you to 2000 yards with a 6.5/7mm
ATACR 7-35 also only gets you 29mils.

 

[st1650]

Tremor 5 and no msr2 wtf I demand a recount lol

The snake oil salesman did it again. Imagine paying an extra 500$ for a tremor

 

[Yerman]

Negative, it's covered in the podcast:

The Everyday Sniper Episode 244: Jeff Huber Zero Compromise Optics Interview | The Everyday Sniper

The Everyday Sniper Episode 244: Jeff Huber Zero Compromise Optics Interview In this episode I am talking with Jeff Huber from Zero Compromise Optics. We discuss the history and background behind this excellent optic. Jeff comes from several Tier One scope companies and that experience has...

theeverydaysniper.podbean.com

Ya, I'm not spending an hour listening to that.

It either needs to be a 2nd focal plane MOA reticle to appeal to the F-Class guys, or it needs to be an ELR 1st focal plane MIL scope with a lot of elevation. This is like some kind of hybrid that I honestly don't know who it is going to appeal to.

With a 36mm Main tube, the only reason I can see them not giving it 35+ mils of elevation is because they needed to keep the reticle optically centered because once it moves too far to either edge, the clarity and eye box go to shit.

I'd love to hear from ZCO why it only has 28mils and who this scope is designed for.

 

[Yerman]

If you have the kind of money to play at ELR distances, you have the kind of money to afford a TARAC.
28 mils get you to 2000 yards with a 6.5/7mm
ATACR 7-35 also only gets you 29mils.

I have a Tarac but that's not the point. An ELR scope is not an ELR scope unless it has ELR features.

If you knew what you were talking about with regard to the ATACR, you would know that the 7-35 has 37.5 mils regardless of what the website says.

 

[b2lee]

If you have the kind of money to play at ELR distances, you have the kind of money to afford a TARAC.
28 mils get you to 2000 yards with a 6.5/7mm
ATACR 7-35 also only gets you 29mils.

28 mils gets me to about 2300yds with the 300PRC....and I hold over out to 2500....but we can just slap a TARAC or a NF Prism on the end and carry on. It's no big deal. I'd prefer only 28mils of total...and perfect clarity at the edges...than some suboptimal erector. I think everyone needs to go back and listen to the podcast....or....more than likely...the fan boys of other optics need to stay in their lane.

 

[NiteQwill]

Ya, I'm not spending an hour listening to that.

It either needs to be a 2nd focal plane MOA reticle to appeal to the F-Class guys, or it needs to be an ELR 1st focal plane MIL scope with a lot of elevation. This is like some kind of hybrid that I honestly don't know who it is going to appeal to.

With a 36mm Main tube, the only reason I can see them not giving it 35+ mils of elevation is because they needed to keep the reticle optically centered because once it moves too far to either edge, the clarity and eye box go to shit.

I'd love to hear from ZCO why it only has 28mils and who this scope is designed for.

If you listen to the podcast, you hear it from the horse's mouth.

 

[st1650]

Ya, I'm not spending an hour listening to that.

It either needs to be a 2nd focal plane MOA reticle to appeal to the F-Class guys, or it needs to be an ELR 1st focal plane MIL scope with a lot of elevation. This is like some kind of hybrid that I honestly don't know who it is going to appeal to.

With a 36mm Main tube, the only reason I can see them not giving it 35+ mils of elevation is because they needed to keep the reticle optically centered because once it moves too far to either edge, the clarity and eye box go to shit.

I'd love to hear from ZCO why it only has 28mils and who this scope is designed for.

It’d say it obviously competes with the ATACR 7-35 and the S&B HP 5-45, March 5-42, etc

Sounds like you’d be better served by a March Genesis if you want max elevation.

 

[Dogtown]

If you listen to the podcast, you hear it from the horse's mouth.

"Damnit! But I WANT to be difficult!"

 

[SD Carpenter]

The tremor 5, official reticle of the PRS....

 

[Chickentoast]

Any chance they'll be doing their own, thin, long range reticle for this beast? Love the scope but T5 looks way busy, and the other rets are very thick. If I have to pay for someone else's, Koshkin's TR1 or an MSR2, but surely ZCO can make one.

 

[CSTactical]

Any chance they'll be doing their own, thin, long range reticle for this beast? Love the scope but T5 looks way busy, and the other rets are very thick. If I have to pay for someone else's, Koshkin's TR1 or an MSR2, but surely ZCO can make one.

I am unsure if they are going to offer any thinner reticles in the near future, it's not a request I see often.

 

[Huskydriver]

Yep, few new things for 2022 with the 8-40 being the top interest item I expect. Dealers will all have pertinent information very soon. More details and stuff at SHOT. Please come visit us at booth 71046 in the new Caesar's Forum.

Where was the msr2? I thought we had a deal man ???!!!

 

[Dogtown]

Whoa...chonky boi

 

[st1650]

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Still lighter than a Razor Gen II

 

[ocabj]

Yep, few new things for 2022 with the 8-40 being the top interest item I expect. Dealers will all have pertinent information very soon. More details and stuff at SHOT. Please come visit us at booth 71046 in the new Caesar's Forum.

I'll be there.

 

[CSTactical]

Yep, few new things for 2022 with the 8-40 being the top interest item I expect. Dealers will all have pertinent information very soon. More details and stuff at SHOT. Please come visit us at booth 71046 in the new Caesar's Forum.

All of CST will be there except me - Richard

 

[BigJimFish]

Weren't we all just talking about the possibility of this scope. I can't say I am surprised to see it exist. Interesting that they added an MOA option and a Horus one. I wonder if MOA options will generally be introduced to the line this year or if this is maybe to see if this new, higher power optic appeals to the f-class.

I'd love to hear from ZCO why it only has 28mils and who this scope is designed for.

As for the 28 mils on elevation, that is just about what I would expect for scaling up the magnification given the existing ZCO designs. As mentioned in the EDC podcast, ZCO initially went with a larger 36mm tube on their 5-27 power in order to both get the 35mils elevation they desired and still have the size erector lenses they also desired for the excellent optical performance they were looking to get. In an internally adjusted scope, there isn't really a work around for this three pronged dilemma. Going with higher magnification in a design decreases your elevation, going with a smaller erector lens system increases your elevation but decreases your optical performance, going with a bigger tube gives you more room but has it's limitations as being off center on the lens system still degrades optical performance. This ZC840 appears in line with other high magnification internally adjusted scopes in elevation to me based on the manufacturers published specifications.

I might also add the price is about where I would have expected it to land on this scope. It's a little more than the lower magnification sibling but not the entire price bracket difference that I remember one other maker seemed to think a magnification increase warranted.

I think ZCO will probably do well with the new offering. There does seem to be a good bit of demand in the higher magnification sector. More than I would have guessed a couple of years ago judging by how many of some scopes were sold despite the price.

 

[CSTactical]

Weren't we all just talking about the possibility of this scope. I can't say I am surprised to see it exist. Interesting that they added an MOA option and a Horus one. I wonder if MOA options will generally be introduced to the line this year or if this is maybe to see if this new, higher power optic appeals to the f-class.



As for the 28 mils on elevation, that is just about what I would expect for scaling up the magnification given the existing ZCO designs. As mentioned in the EDC podcast, ZCO initially went with a larger 36mm tube on their 5-27 power in order to both get the 35mils elevation they desired and still have the size erector lenses they also desired for the excellent optical performance they were looking to get. In an internally adjusted scope, there isn't really a work around for this three pronged dilemma. Going with higher magnification in a design decreases your elevation, going with a smaller erector lens system increases your elevation but decreases your optical performance, going with a bigger tube gives you more room but has it's limitations as being off center on the lens system still degrades optical performance. This ZC840 appears in line with other high magnification internally adjusted scopes in elevation to me based on the manufacturers published specifications.

I might also add the price is about where I would have expected it to land on this scope. It's a little more than the lower magnification sibling but not the entire price bracket difference that I remember one other maker seemed to think a magnification increase warranted.

I think ZCO will probably do well with the new offering. There does seem to be a good bit of demand in the higher magnification sector. More than I would have guessed a couple of years ago judging by how many of some scopes were sold despite the price.

Thank you for that summary! @BigJimFish

 

[Franko]

All of CST will be there except me - Richard

Your looking at this wrong, you get to stay home and sit in a comfy chair rather than standing in a booth all day long and eating crappy convention food. Also, you won't be getting sick the whatever version of the Black Plague will be going around at the show...

 

[CSTactical]

Your looking at this wrong, you get to stay home and sit in a comfy chair rather than standing in a booth all day long and eating crappy convention food. Also, you won't be getting sick the whatever version of the Black Plague will be going around at the show...

Shhhhh, I know

 

[Hoyt7mm]

I'm glad I've held off on my 3rd ZCO this long! The price compared to the new current norm for the 5-27 is pretty competitive to me, at least relatively speaking. A few things I am curious about:
1. Is there an increase in FOV with the 8-40 over the 5-27 at equivalent powers?
2. Will the reticle thickness be thinner than the 5-27 at equivalent power?
3. Really curious if there will be a slight optical advantage when comparing the 8-40 and 5-27 at typical powers (say 12-20) since that seems to have been noted with other scopes that have 5-25 and 7-35 or similar versions.
ETA: I just noticed the 15m parallax. Super cool! That nice treat for rimfire, especially if DOF is as awesome at typical of ZCO

 

[Jefe~]

I'm glad I've held off on my 3rd ZCO this long! The price compared to the new current norm for the 5-27 is pretty competitive to me, at least relatively speaking. A few things I am curious about:
1. Is there an increase in FOV with the 8-40 over the 5-27 at equivalent powers?
2. Will the reticle thickness be thinner than the 5-27 at equivalent power?
3. Really curious if there will be a slight optical advantage when comparing the 8-40 and 5-27 at typical powers (say 12-20) since that seems to have been noted with other scopes that have 5-25 and 7-35 or similar versions.
ETA: I just noticed the 15m parallax. Super cool! That nice treat for rimfire, especially if DOF is as awesome at typical of ZCO

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